Mattress Surgery. Good or Bad Idea?
Jun 20, 2009 3:21 PM
Joined: Jun 16, 2009
Points: 29
Let's take three different scenarios. I'm using Art Van Furniture store policy as an example. No returns; $119 exchange fee; $80 delivery fee; only one exchange allowed so you better make the right decision.

(1) You bought a bed that gives you back pain and you can't return or exchange it.

(2) You bought a bed that gives you back pain and you can't return it, and the cost of the exchange (at least $400, see below) is prohibitive. (It only cost me $85 to DIY surgery.)

(3) You bought a bed that gives you back pain and you can't return it, and you can exchange it. But the best you could get is a bed which you aren't sure about. Total cost is: $120 for exchange fee, $80 for delivery, and at least $200 for the upgrade = At least $400 more than you already spent. You can barely afford it, it will hurt your pocket book, but again, its a gamble because you don't know if what you are getting will solve the problem.

My answer is. (1) Perform the mattress surgery because you are stuck with an otherwise useless bed anyway. (2) Perform the mattress surgery because you are stuck with an otherwise useless bed anyway.  (3) Here you have to weigh the risks. If you pay $400 or more and still have back pain then you are thrown into category (1) and might now have to pay more to buy replacement foam. It's possible all you need to do is take some out. But until you take the top off and try it you don't know.

Am I not considering something?

Matt
Re: Mattress Surgery. Good or Bad Idea?
Reply #6 Jun 21, 2009 5:33 PM
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland.
Joined: Jun 17, 2009
Points: 21
MattFaunce wrote:
My cover has Visil woven in. Yes, this is a fire retardant material. About the retardant being suited to the foam, especially about the partial ineffectiveness of the retardant when covering other types of foam, could you provide a reference article, preferably an internet link? Whatever you have.<BR><BR>Matt<br type="_moz"/>

i dont know the type Visil (there are a lot) but im sure it will be rated for the type of foam you have.

ive had a quick search online for an article for you but will have to find you something from work. its based on the fact all hydrocarbons ignite at a diffrent level and they need to be rated to diff temps etc. ill see if i have and non branded info on this, you'll appreaciate that i cant go giving out any branded info that would be pecticular to the make up of there beds, but ill let you see whatever generic stuff i can get my hands on.
Re: Mattress Surgery. Good or Bad Idea?
Reply #7 Jun 21, 2009 6:18 PM
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland.
Joined: Jun 17, 2009
Points: 21
<BR> BillB wrote:
You're certainly welcome here if you want to add to the collective knowledge on this board. You seem to have some knowledge that might help. But you know, we've had several people like you come on here in the last few months and tell us we were all wrong and that they somehow had all the wisdom of the universe concerning mattresses bottled up in their being and darn it, they were going to straighten us out - right now!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;You seem to be looking for a fight. &amp;quot;now, im expecting a few heated replys from this - so, what have you got?&amp;quot;  And look at your signature.... I know one thing for sure, there are no absolute truths in the mattress world, yet somehow you claim to have found them. I would advise you to calm down and 'hear' what these folks are saying concerning their mattresses.  Try to be helpful.  Condescending tones are not usually received well.  Try to be respectful.  It's usually the best way to reach people. Good luck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bill<BR>
<BR>Hi Bill <BR><BR>thanks for the welcome, and i would like to add the board and add to your info. im sorry if you have had bad experances with previous people who didnt fit in well and belive me that is not my aim.<BR><BR>im no in any way looking for a fight, i looked and joined a forum as i wanted to share info and learn more where i could, i read this thread when it was first posted up and given it was quite obviously aimed at me after what i posted in another thread i decided not to reply to it. after his second post where he said <BR>
MattFaunce wrote:
Anyway, I was trying to draw Marshall in<BR>
yea i got a bit pissed off and decided it needed a reply, maybe i was condescending but i dont see how i was disrepectful ... if it seems that way i apoligise to you and the original poster.<BR><BR>as you say above (a bit melodramaticly) there are no absolute truths in beds. but there are a hell of a lot of mistruths, worse than that, they are spread and repeated and propegated. it really is a shame.<BR><BR><BR> BillB wrote:
Try to be helpful. Condescending tones are not usually received well. Try to be respectful. It's usually the best way to reach people. Good luck.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Bill<BR>
<BR><BR>i will try to keep the advice in mind. but i will not be changing my sig (it goes with the 'advice that never changes' thing) and i will always post if i think a subject is being misrepresented and that could challange what others belive and that may lead back to this again. you may think that i am being condesending and disrepectfull and rude, but i think its just because i dont agree with you.<BR><BR>i think this thread has little chance to return to anything to do with mattresses and its not very flattering for the site for any new members looking through. so ill leave it at that.<BR><BR>till next time Bill<BR><BR>Marshall<BR><BR>
This message was modified Jun 21, 2009 by Marshall
Re: Mattress Surgery. Good or Bad Idea?
Reply #8 Jun 22, 2009 11:21 PM
Joined: May 22, 2009
Points: 64
Marshall wrote:
you may think that i am being condesending and disrepectfull and rude, but i think its just because i dont agree with you.

Really? You display unrestrained contempt for those members who undertake the difficult task of reupholstering their mattresses, none of whom made that decision lightly, I'm sure, calling them "irresponsible", etc., and you honestly don't believe you've been the slightest bit rude or condescending in your posts? I find that kind of hilarious.

Some of your advice sucks, by the way.
Re: Mattress Surgery. Good or Bad Idea?
Reply #9 Jun 23, 2009 5:57 AM
Joined: Sep 7, 2007
Points: 476
What do you expect? By his own admission he's an industry man. The idea of informed, involved and capable consumers scares the crap out of him. If we can all make our own mattresses where does that leave him? Trying to scare people out of attempting mattress surgery and belittling those who have gone that route is a matter of job security to this guy. Dude, it's just a freakin' mattress, not a holy relic.
Re: Mattress Surgery. Good or Bad Idea?
Reply #10 Jun 24, 2009 12:59 AM
Joined: Jul 10, 2008
Points: 69
When you open the mattress, keep the damask cover and put it back over the mattress. Don't smoke in bed. Do the surgery, you have nothing to lose.
Re: Mattress Surgery. Good or Bad Idea?
Reply #11 Jul 6, 2009 7:35 PM
Joined: Jul 6, 2009
Points: 3
Hi Cloud9--you seem to know a bit about mattresses.  I thought you might be able to help me (see my post today sleeplessinpdx new mattress/latex causing back pain).  My spouse thinks I am nuts; I am certain the latex mattress is the problem (I don't know the ILD--it was a medium firm--supposedly Dunlop, but I since have learned that the mattress maker may be using talalay).  I've also tried two S brand mattresses.  What do you know about latex and back pain?  Extreme aches1  How about regular mattresses and pain (side, midback).  I would really appreciate your advice.  Thanks!
SG