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Hi Folks, Back to experimenting with surgery mattress... tried my "stack" with and without even a relatively thin 10 year old basic cotton skirted pad (JC Penney)... no more than 3/16 inch thick... and the difference was huge. Much better without the pad.. which stiffened up and firmed up my top layers of 4 lb mem foam and 19 lb latex so that the comfort supplied by them without the pad was.... almost unnoticeable! So soft and flexible pad is very important, as many here have commented. So here is the question: which of these do you have. like, and recommend.. or would you choose?
1. Walmart (Sandman's) Out of stock but $169 delivered? 2. St. Dormeir $169 free shipping at cuddledown.com - Nonreturnable 3. Natura washable $169 at Bed & Bath order online only.... + 8% sales tax + $15 shipping o= $198 maybe less 20% coupon... but returnable?
I am inclined to go with returnable Natura, though folks here rave about St. Dormeir. Thoughts, anyone? thanks! shovel99 This message was modified Oct 6, 2010 by shovel99
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Angel wrote: I took the Dormeir off last night, I much prefer my mattress without it. If anyone is interested in it (king size), send me a PM. Thanks! That is bad news |
since it can't be returned. Why didn't you like it? Kinda scared now since I ordered once last week! 
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Phoenix wrote: I noticed this tonight for anyone who may be interested. It doesn't say so but I'm pretty sure it's the Natura ... exactly the same features, look, and even name ... and it's the least expensive I've seen anywhere.
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It has the breathable waterproof barrier and the ionic silver ... same as the Natura protect deluxe (same name) and the same layers of cotton, wool, and membrane... and they're both washable. Course it could be different but it sure looks the same. Phoenix Sorry I meant protect deluxe and this is it at the natura site http://www.naturaworld.com/mattress-protector-deluxe This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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...and they put colloidal silver in it? Apparently Natura does in almost everything now: http://www.i-newswire.com/natura-world-introduces-anti-microbial/37382 |
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Phoenix wrote: It has the breathable waterproof barrier and the ionic silver ... same as the Natura protect plus (same name) and the same layers of cotton, wool, and membrane... and they're both washable.
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It was actually one of the things that impressed me about them. I use colloidal silver often as an antibiotic or when I'm coming down with something, and it's always worked well for me ... just a little slower than antibiotics. Phoenix |
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Phoenix wrote: It was actually one of the things that impressed me about them. I use colloidal silver often as an antibiotic or when I'm coming down with something, and it's always worked well for me ... just a little slower than antibiotics.
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No nothing formal although I do know that ionic or colloidal silver kills bacteria and viruses on contact so it would make sense that it could have an effect on keeping a mattress "clean". It's an interesting idea in theory but I really don't know how well it would work in practice. Some of the descriptions at some places are kind of misleading because they imply that somehow it's the silver that makes it waterproof rather than the membrane. I have found out in this search that I really really don't like "unclear" advertising or descriptions. It's just so much work to get to the bottom of things sometimes. Phoenix This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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Phoenix, With all of your internet research you must be aware of Paul Karason and his experiences with colloidal silver. You might want to check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria Philip |
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Yes , very aware of him and others. I think the medical profession as a whole would love it if people believed that anything even resembling normal use could in any way lead to argyria and thats not even taking into account the type of colloidal silver that is used or other nutrients used in combination with it. http://www.clspress.com/tox.html In the article you cited, the amount considered safe (no risk of argyria or anything else) over the course of a lifetime is "1 liter of 10 ppm colloidal silver per month for a 66 kg person". That's every single month. That's a LOT of colloidal silver taken every single month for the rest of your life. I could cite you many more references but I'll leave it to you to do your research if you are interested. It is probably one of the most beneficial "natural medicines" in my view and I am only one of probably dozens of people I know personally that have used it to great effect over a long period of time. Even my 2 kids grew up with it's use. Now the alternatives ... including the widespread and indiscriminate use of antibiotics and other medicines ... that's another story that I would hope most of us are aware of. And even if some crazy people took so much colloidal silver (or anything else that can harm you in crazy doses for that matter), that they turned into "greys" the harmful effects would still not approach the "effects" of some of the much more powerful "medicines" that are regularly used and prescribed by the conventional allopathic medical profession http://www.examiner.com/alternative-medicine-in-detroit/deaths-caused-by-conventional-medicine It's another one of those "topics" that I've done a lot of research into except this research has been over the course of many many years. It's of course outside the scope of a mattress forum though (laughing). Phoenix This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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