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Hi Folks, Back to experimenting with surgery mattress... tried my "stack" with and without even a relatively thin 10 year old basic cotton skirted pad (JC Penney)... no more than 3/16 inch thick... and the difference was huge. Much better without the pad.. which stiffened up and firmed up my top layers of 4 lb mem foam and 19 lb latex so that the comfort supplied by them without the pad was.... almost unnoticeable! So soft and flexible pad is very important, as many here have commented. So here is the question: which of these do you have. like, and recommend.. or would you choose?
1. Walmart (Sandman's) Out of stock but $169 delivered? 2. St. Dormeir $169 free shipping at cuddledown.com - Nonreturnable 3. Natura washable $169 at Bed & Bath order online only.... + 8% sales tax + $15 shipping o= $198 maybe less 20% coupon... but returnable?
I am inclined to go with returnable Natura, though folks here rave about St. Dormeir. Thoughts, anyone? thanks! shovel99 This message was modified Oct 6, 2010 by shovel99
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...and they put colloidal silver in it? Apparently Natura does in almost everything now: http://www.i-newswire.com/natura-world-introduces-anti-microbial/37382 |
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Phoenix wrote: It has the breathable waterproof barrier and the ionic silver ... same as the Natura protect plus (same name) and the same layers of cotton, wool, and membrane... and they're both washable.
Course it could be different but it sure looks the same. Phoenix |
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It was actually one of the things that impressed me about them. I use colloidal silver often as an antibiotic or when I'm coming down with something, and it's always worked well for me ... just a little slower than antibiotics. Phoenix |
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Phoenix wrote: It was actually one of the things that impressed me about them. I use colloidal silver often as an antibiotic or when I'm coming down with something, and it's always worked well for me ... just a little slower than antibiotics.
Phoenix maybe I'm just too tired right now! |
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No nothing formal although I do know that ionic or colloidal silver kills bacteria and viruses on contact so it would make sense that it could have an effect on keeping a mattress "clean". It's an interesting idea in theory but I really don't know how well it would work in practice. Some of the descriptions at some places are kind of misleading because they imply that somehow it's the silver that makes it waterproof rather than the membrane. I have found out in this search that I really really don't like "unclear" advertising or descriptions. It's just so much work to get to the bottom of things sometimes. Phoenix This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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Phoenix, With all of your internet research you must be aware of Paul Karason and his experiences with colloidal silver. You might want to check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria Philip |
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Yes , very aware of him and others. I think the medical profession as a whole would love it if people believed that anything even resembling normal use could in any way lead to argyria and thats not even taking into account the type of colloidal silver that is used or other nutrients used in combination with it. http://www.clspress.com/tox.html In the article you cited, the amount considered safe (no risk of argyria or anything else) over the course of a lifetime is "1 liter of 10 ppm colloidal silver per month for a 66 kg person". That's every single month. That's a LOT of colloidal silver taken every single month for the rest of your life. I could cite you many more references but I'll leave it to you to do your research if you are interested. It is probably one of the most beneficial "natural medicines" in my view and I am only one of probably dozens of people I know personally that have used it to great effect over a long period of time. Even my 2 kids grew up with it's use. Now the alternatives ... including the widespread and indiscriminate use of antibiotics and other medicines ... that's another story that I would hope most of us are aware of. And even if some crazy people took so much colloidal silver (or anything else that can harm you in crazy doses for that matter), that they turned into "greys" the harmful effects would still not approach the "effects" of some of the much more powerful "medicines" that are regularly used and prescribed by the conventional allopathic medical profession http://www.examiner.com/alternative-medicine-in-detroit/deaths-caused-by-conventional-medicine It's another one of those "topics" that I've done a lot of research into except this research has been over the course of many many years. It's of course outside the scope of a mattress forum though (laughing). Phoenix This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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I ordered the Natura from Walmart yesterday and I'll report on it when it arrives. My original plan was to go with a thinner mattress pad so it wouldn't affect the feel of the mattress but I like sleeping on wool as well. I didn't get wool in the mattress itself and chose the down alternative because it doesn't compress as much and get "hard" when it compresses but in a mattress pad that wouldn't be an issue (it can be "fluffed" and/or replaced). We sometimes have a glass of wine or something in bed as well so I wanted it waterproof/breathable as well just in case. Combine this with the deal they were offering and I just couldn't resist. If it does turn out to be too thick and/or affect the feel of the mattress in a negative way, I can always return it and get something thinner. Phoenix This message was modified Oct 25, 2010 by Phoenix
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Phoenix, link please for your Natura? Did you do a review on your mattress on the review section on this forum? We need all the help we can get here on reviews. |
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The mattress pad was the one I mentioned earlier from Costco. I'd be happy to do a review on my mattress ... probably in the next few days ... although I've mentioned them a few times in different threads. The mattress itself though was custom built so the review wouldn't refer to an actual mattress or specs that someone else could buy "off the shelf" as much as to a manufacturer ... although anyone could certainly duplicate the specs if they wanted to. I'm assuming that it would still be appropriate for the review section? If it is, I'll wait till I've slept on it for a week and then give the "official review". Phoenix |