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Hi Folks, Back to experimenting with surgery mattress... tried my "stack" with and without even a relatively thin 10 year old basic cotton skirted pad (JC Penney)... no more than 3/16 inch thick... and the difference was huge. Much better without the pad.. which stiffened up and firmed up my top layers of 4 lb mem foam and 19 lb latex so that the comfort supplied by them without the pad was.... almost unnoticeable! So soft and flexible pad is very important, as many here have commented. So here is the question: which of these do you have. like, and recommend.. or would you choose?
1. Walmart (Sandman's) Out of stock but $169 delivered? 2. St. Dormeir $169 free shipping at cuddledown.com - Nonreturnable 3. Natura washable $169 at Bed & Bath order online only.... + 8% sales tax + $15 shipping o= $198 maybe less 20% coupon... but returnable?
I am inclined to go with returnable Natura, though folks here rave about St. Dormeir. Thoughts, anyone? thanks! shovel99 This message was modified Oct 6, 2010 by shovel99
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Phoenix, With all of your internet research you must be aware of Paul Karason and his experiences with colloidal silver. You might want to check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria Philip |
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Yes , very aware of him and others. I think the medical profession as a whole would love it if people believed that anything even resembling normal use could in any way lead to argyria and thats not even taking into account the type of colloidal silver that is used or other nutrients used in combination with it. http://www.clspress.com/tox.html In the article you cited, the amount considered safe (no risk of argyria or anything else) over the course of a lifetime is "1 liter of 10 ppm colloidal silver per month for a 66 kg person". That's every single month. That's a LOT of colloidal silver taken every single month for the rest of your life. I could cite you many more references but I'll leave it to you to do your research if you are interested. It is probably one of the most beneficial "natural medicines" in my view and I am only one of probably dozens of people I know personally that have used it to great effect over a long period of time. Even my 2 kids grew up with it's use. Now the alternatives ... including the widespread and indiscriminate use of antibiotics and other medicines ... that's another story that I would hope most of us are aware of. And even if some crazy people took so much colloidal silver (or anything else that can harm you in crazy doses for that matter), that they turned into "greys" the harmful effects would still not approach the "effects" of some of the much more powerful "medicines" that are regularly used and prescribed by the conventional allopathic medical profession http://www.examiner.com/alternative-medicine-in-detroit/deaths-caused-by-conventional-medicine It's another one of those "topics" that I've done a lot of research into except this research has been over the course of many many years. It's of course outside the scope of a mattress forum though (laughing). Phoenix This message was modified Oct 22, 2010 by Phoenix
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I ordered the Natura from Walmart yesterday and I'll report on it when it arrives. My original plan was to go with a thinner mattress pad so it wouldn't affect the feel of the mattress but I like sleeping on wool as well. I didn't get wool in the mattress itself and chose the down alternative because it doesn't compress as much and get "hard" when it compresses but in a mattress pad that wouldn't be an issue (it can be "fluffed" and/or replaced). We sometimes have a glass of wine or something in bed as well so I wanted it waterproof/breathable as well just in case. Combine this with the deal they were offering and I just couldn't resist. If it does turn out to be too thick and/or affect the feel of the mattress in a negative way, I can always return it and get something thinner. Phoenix This message was modified Oct 25, 2010 by Phoenix
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Phoenix, link please for your Natura? Did you do a review on your mattress on the review section on this forum? We need all the help we can get here on reviews. |
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The mattress pad was the one I mentioned earlier from Costco. I'd be happy to do a review on my mattress ... probably in the next few days ... although I've mentioned them a few times in different threads. The mattress itself though was custom built so the review wouldn't refer to an actual mattress or specs that someone else could buy "off the shelf" as much as to a manufacturer ... although anyone could certainly duplicate the specs if they wanted to. I'm assuming that it would still be appropriate for the review section? If it is, I'll wait till I've slept on it for a week and then give the "official review". Phoenix |
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I searched at Walmart for Natura mattress covers and there was only CSN ones. What good deal did you get? I see the link for Costco, thanks, is it the same and is it cheaper? Let us know what you think of it. There is a section "Review" next to the forum link on this website. More people should post their reviews there, they don't seem to as much, guess they expect people to scour the forum. Not as good for reviewing a mattress. Yes your review on your particular mattress specs would be helpful. I do see reviews for latex mattress that are custom built, so it is still helpful. |
I agree with Diane. I have the Dormeir on my FloBed and love it. It's soft and very stretchy. Doesn't change the feel of the bed at all... except it cooled me down this summer, and now that it's cold at night, it's very cozy. I tried the SnugFleece pads, two different ones and found they made the bed much firmer. Yes, the Dormeir is thinner than you'd expect when you open it, but it works... at least for me. And I love that's is washable.  As always, just my opinion,YMMV. Best to everyone, This message was modified Oct 29, 2010 by Natalia
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Well I received the Natura from Costco. Actually that's not quite accurate since I'm in Canada at the moment and won't be able to give my personal review for some time but I did ask my sweetie a lot of questions about it and here is the second hand review. It is thinner than the other Natura's that we saw and probably much closer to the Dormier in thickness (my guess would be about 8oz/sq yd). It doesn't seem to change the feel of the mattress one way or another and she says she really likes how it feels on top of the mattress. It is well made (and she looks carefully at stuff like this) and the sides fit easily over the mattress and stay there. There is no "crinkly" feeling from the waterproof/breathable membrane. The one thing she mentioned is that it had a very strong smell (she is very sensitive to smells) and that she had to air it out for a couple of days before it went away. It is now gone though and she is very happy. She will be sending me pictures of it when she has a chance (top and bottom) and when I get them I will post them here. All in all a very happy purchase :) Phoenix This message was modified Nov 12, 2010 by Phoenix
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Phoenix wrote: Well I received the Natura from Costco. Actually that's not quite accurate since I'm in Canada at the moment and won't be able to give my personal review for some time but I did ask my sweetie a lot of questions about it and here is the second hand review. It is thinner than the other Natura's that we saw and probably much closer to the Dormier in thickness (my guess would be about 8oz/sq yd). It doesn't seem to change the feel of the mattress one way or another and she says she really likes how it feels on top of the mattress. It is well made (and she looks carefully at stuff like this) and the sides fit easily over the mattress and stay there. There is no "crinkly" feeling from the waterproof/breathable membrane. The one thing she mentioned is that it had a very strong smell (she is very sensitive to smells) and that she had to air it out for a couple of days before it went away. It is now gone though and she is very happy. She will be sending me pictures of it when she has a chance (top and bottom) and when I get them I will post them here. All in all a very happy purchase :) Phoenix Glad your significant other is happy with the Natura. Give us a review after you have used it a month. Pictures would be great too. I have come to the sad conclusion though no mattress cover will ever work for me. I thought I loved the Dormeir until the fifth night, I do love it for back sleeping, but side sleeping caused worse hip pain than before. Yes I do feel the stitching. Guess I have more weight in the hips than the skinnier folks here, or they don't side sleep. My latex is 4" of 24ILD. So not everyone loves the same thing. I don't have a mattress cover built in the Dormeir is directly over the latex, maybe that is the difference. I sink in more. This message was modified Nov 12, 2010 by Leo3
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