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Hello to all, I read as much as I could from old posts, but a lot of the posts I saw didnt help narrow anything down for me. I'll start by saying that I am looking for a medium-firm mattress in KING size. Not only do I like the feel of medium-firm and some plush-firms, I hear they are better for us back sufferers. I want to spend 2,000 or under TOTAL. I went today and slept on a TON of beds and found the most comfortable for me was the "SIMMONS BEAUTYREST World-Class Plush-Firm.......". It wasnt a pillowtop and had only a little padding on top the coils. I come to this site though, hoping to find good reviews, and am really disappointed. All reviews found here on the Beautyrest are negative. The only two mattresses I have ever had have BOTH been Sealy Posturepedics and BOTH sagged horribly in the middle after 6 months. I don't want the same experience for me and my new wife. And even though the Beautyrest was so comfortable, I dont want something with bad reviews from other people. I always like to make the best informed decision possible, I just feel lost in trying to make the best choice. I even tried to find a flip-style model, as I read on here that may be the best bet, but I was told time and time again that those werent made anymore. Need some help here. Again, looking for medium-firm, under 2,000, and something that wont breakdown under normal circumstances. Open to any suggestions. Thanks. This message was modified Oct 14, 2008 by bayoufrogg
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I'm a side sleeper and love my three layer latex. Recently I have been thinking of making it a little softer. All I really have to do is flip a couple of layers. I really needed a firm mattress three years ago. This worked great, and allowed me to fine tune the bed. I just remembered, I got my latex from memoryfoam.com. It took me over a year to decide to order latex. I started with an Aerobed of all things. I was experimenting to see how firm I needed my bed to relieve back pain. I was blowing them up to the max and they would start leaking in three months. I was under warranty three times, but it really taught me what I needed. One other person started out on an aerobed, it's hard to remember. :) I would still be on one if they didn't have the leak problems. I'll bet they have turned the air pressure down by now. My latex is on plyboard. First I ordered a 35 and 28 and by folding them I got about any combination I could think of. I finally bought another 35 (says 33.5). Back when I was looking the 35/35/28 was very popular among the larger men. Are you guys still using ILD, I don't see much mention of it anymore... One thing I know from hanging out here in the past, you are not going to find the magical apples in a couple of days. If you do I would like to invite you to Vegas with me. :) |
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Cloud 9, you really are a font of information! I've been off this site for a few weeks(computer and all in it died), just found it again. I kept wishing and hoping my individual coil mattress would somehow work(ya know, the one that is in pieces). You've just described why it won't. Latex does NOT work for my back and neither does this type of coil...had no idea why. Thanks! I bought a mattress for my daughter recently, made by the mattress maker in Fresno. Simple bed, bonnell unit, cotton batting, just a bit of foam on top, and flippable. She LOVES it. Now for my back. I have two choices right now. One, have them remove the innards of my bed, put in a Bonnell unit and the cotton and foam, and zipper...hope that works. Otherwise, can start again from scratch and have them make a bed for me. Good money after bad. Other thing I found out recently is that the Sealy Signature series has the springs that I slept on in the Crown Jewell(when I was out of town, healed my back). These springs have an extra bit of coil that sticks up and offers additional support, so they say. This from the bed blog that answers bed questions(that guy knows his stuff). But if I buy one of these, I fear the same problem that i have had in the past, the foam breaking down way prematurely. If I buy one of these and then try to have my bed guy fix it, I think he'll refuse. Anybody have any ideas on that? This message was modified Oct 21, 2008 by Kait
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I couldn't agree more. My biggest problem was trying to find a bed that both my girlfriend and I were comfortable on. We're both picky and we both like different firmness levels; not a good combo when shopping for a mattress. So far we both love our Flobed. The best part is being able to fine tune it for a reasonable cost within the 90 day window (<---- sorry for sounding like an infomercial). We went with the three layer (Posture Deluxe) simply for configurability. I had been worried that the convoluted latex topper would be way to soft for me, but I've been very happy so far. Edit: And for some reason it didn't quote like it was supposed to. This was in response to greenlaser. This message was modified Oct 21, 2008 by DuLL_ExIsTeNz
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Kait--glad to help. Most of what I've learned about mattresses has come from researching this forum. The coil system in the Sealy you liked is an open end offset coil. Spring Air also uses this system. If you have a mattress made for you ask for it. It has more turns per coil than a simple Bonnell and supports an adult weight better. I'm curious--where do you get a spring unit, cotton padding etc to put into your current mattress cover? Foam is easy. Making an old fashioned mattress from scratch? I'd love to do that. My 20-year-old flippable Spring Air was just cotton padding over the offset coils and a little bit of HR foam in the uphostery. That mattress had terrific lumbar support and I think part of it was the firm cotton padding over the springs. You just can't duplicate that feeling with foam no matter how firm it is. This message was modified Oct 22, 2008 by cloud9
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Hey, Cloud 9; I just spoke with my bedmaker guy in Fresno, and told him what my thoughts were about the offset coil. He said he'd look for a quality American-made one tomorrow and get a quote on it. Last year I took my Stress-O-Pedic mattress, brand new, in to his shop to remake it(hubby brought it home, it was too soft and killed my back). He's worked on it a couple of times, fine tuning it, but we didn't understand until recently that the true issue is the marshall unit. When he makes a bed, he typically uses a Bonnell unit, wire mesh, burlap, soft cotton batting, and some extra good quality Polyfoam(or Latex, or memory foam, depending on the customer's wishes). He's not expensive, either!! My biggest issue is figuring out what to tell him to do! I think we're getting close... Kait |
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Hi Kait So basically this guy can make a mattress to order, not just fix the one you have. Awesome! Why shop anywhere else? Seriously/ If you can get someone to construct a mattress exactly the way you want it that's so much better than buying one at a conventional store where you really don't know what's under the hood so to speak. You know what comfort level you prefer from sleeping on other mattresses that were really good for your back, so just work from there. If I was doing it I'd ask for an "old fashion" mattress, flippable with only a small amount of HR foam in the upholstry. This would probably be too hard to side sleep on all by itself, but I would add my own comfort layers on top to fine tune it. That gives me more flexibility to change things out than if it's under the uphostery unless he makes the mattress with a zippered cover so you can get inside and move things around. Please report back after you get your new custom mattress and tell us how it turned out. Sweet dreams! |
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Kait, can you post, or PM, the name of your mattress maker in Fresno? I am looking for just this type of mattress maker. I live in Northern CA, but will drive to Fresno, if that is where I'll find him at! The only other bed maker I know of is from another poster on this forum, who told her story of having a bed made in Santa Cruz, at Bay Beds. . . I have yet to go there, but have talked to the owner (Dan) on the phone. Thanks! Julie This message was modified Oct 24, 2008 by justjulie19
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Dear Cloud 9 and Justjulie; I spoke with him Thursday and he has ordered an offset coil unit 12 gauge wire, 6 turn coils, for my new bed. I am really excited. Now I have to tell him what to do inside the bed. He uses the Bonnell unit in his beds with springs usually, and this unit is twice the price, so I can understand why they use these in the premium mattresses and not the low end models. I have a question for cloud nine. In your old bed, what exactly was the layering over the coils? The reason I ask is that I need to know if the way this bedmaker typically makes beds is what I need him to do with these coils. I beleive he usually lays some wire mesh over the coils, then burlap, then the cotton batting. I am questioning the wire mesh which seems like it would mash the coil ends down. If anyone wants to ask me something about this directly, please do at owensall@sti.net Kait |
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Dear Bayoutfrogg; I'd find out what innards the bed you like has and go from there. I think the Beautyrest coils aren't as quality as some others, if I remember correctly. Polyurethane foam breaks down really fast, especially if it is made in China, as so much of today's foam is. That has been my experience with foam...seems worse over the last five plus years too. Believe me, once you buy a new bed and it sags, they don't care. You are left holding the mattress so to speak. I think that independent bedmakers who warranty the quality of their work might be the best bet. If you can find one, then at least you can work with someone in person. BTW, you should be able to find what you want in your pricerange, and get quality. Too much markup on beds. Good luck, Kait |