Newbie; Latex Mattress Questions
Dec 21, 2010 8:55 AM
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Points: 11
(Newbie here) First, I wanted to thank everyone that contributes to this forum.  It is a wealth of info…

 I had a couple of quick questions regarding a latex mattress.  I'm just starting my research, been lurking here a couple of weeks,

 * One website claimed all latex mattress pieces are made 40”x80”, and then glued together to obtain the desired size?  Is that true?

 * Will using a metal bed platform/frame (such as the Boyd platform) damage the bottom of a latex mattress if placed directly on the metal frame?  I assume that is how it’s intended to be used?  Is there enough wide-spread support in the metal frame to prevent the wire supports from cutting through the bottom of the latex?

 * I am a heavy guy, weighing 425 lbs and 6’ tall.  I sleep alone, and will be getting a Cal King.  What height mattress would be recommended? 

* I'm in Northern Ca, the Bay Area.  If anyone has any recco's for field testing locations please advise!

 Thanks everyone, your input is greatly appreciated.

 Mitch

Re: Newbie; Latex Mattress Questions
Reply #1 Dec 21, 2010 11:30 PM
Joined: Oct 3, 2010
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Some of the latex international cores are twin XL and some are Queen. It depends on which facility they come from. In the case of a King you would have a glued layer eiher way if you were going with Talalay. Most of the non glued queens don't seem to be as available through "do it yourself" outlets.

I would tend to avoid the Boyd foundation with latex. While I don't have personal experience with it, it sure does look like it could do some damage especially with a lot of weight on it. Would probably be more suitable for an innerspring mattress although I don't know this from personal experience.

In terms of height it would depend on what type of latex you used, it's firmness and it's layering. I would say at least 9" as a bare minimum and possibly/probably more depending on how they were made and how they felt.

There isn't a lot of smaller manufacturers that close to SF that I know about but I did list a few manufacturers and retailers in reply #16 here

Good luck in your search :)

Re: Newbie; Latex Mattress Questions
Reply #2 Dec 23, 2010 1:08 PM
Joined: Dec 16, 2010
Points: 11
Phoenix,

Thanks for the response (I had a gut feeling that frame wouldn't be a good idea from viewing it)...

Couple of quick questions if I may impose?

I can field test an Englander latex mattress - would that even be *somewhat comparable* to the typical layered latex mattresses normal talked about here?

I had one local Co here recommend a layered 9", w/2x3" Xfirm Dunlop + 3" Xfirm Talalay.  But I wouldn't even be able to field test it prior to the purchase, and they wanted like $3,600.  So I was wondering if a ballpark-type recommendation for a 12" layered combo might be something like 3x3" Dunlop Xfirm + 3" Talalay Xfirm?  I'm a side sleeper, who prefers firm and I also have back problems...any thoughts? 

Would anyone recommend for or against the need for a "springy" type foundation or base in a case such as mine?  And if not needed, any input on a foundation or frame such as the Boyd but acceptable for use with latex would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks again!

Re: Newbie; Latex Mattress Questions
Reply #3 Dec 23, 2010 2:26 PM
Joined: Oct 3, 2010
Points: 809
The construction you mentioned would be "in the ballpark" for a 9" mattress but the price they are charging you is way high ... especially considering you can't lay on it first. A similar construction using as least as high quality latex and possibly better could be purchased from a reputable online dealer for about half the cost.

It is very difficult to tell the construction that may be suitable for you without some field testing but in general terms the top 3" (in your case probably top 4-5") of your layering is more about comfort and the ability to conform with your sleeping profile and relieve pressure and the lower layers are more about support and the ability to keep your spine in alignment. The middle layers play a sort of dual role. I would personally tend towards slightly softer in the upper layer ... perhaps firm or even medium ... only because really firm may cause pressure issues on your side. This would depend on how soft a very firm upper layer felt to you in actual testing. There is a little more flexibility wih a 12" mattress but whether this was "better" would depend on circumstances and materials used. There are hospital foam bariatric mattresses which are 7" thick (although I wouldn't go that thin either).

Englander makes quite a few "latex" mattresses ... some of them are all latex and some of them are part latex. Like Restonic, they also can have regional differences in construction. The stores will often call them latex even if they have latex over poly with some poly over it as well. How suitable they were for testing would depend on the willingness of the retailer to tell you exactly what was in it and whether the latex had poly either over or under it.

In terms of a foundation, I would buy a very strong slatted wooden foundation. The retailer you purchased from would probably be in a better position to advise as to it's specific suitability although most of the well built wooden ones that are sold with a latex mattress are pretty strong and would likely be fine. You could buy this from the place you bought your mattress or elsewhere as they are widely available.

I would personally go with an all latex mattress over springs in your circumstances but if you did go with innersprings because you strongly preferred it's feel in your testing I would go with the heaviest and firmest I could find.

There are several very good manufacturers or retail outlets on the list I linked to earlier that have a wide range of latex options available without the disadvantage of wondering what is in them. I would certainly choose one or two of these for testing over a place that only offered latex through a "brand" that had less options.

Phoenix

Re: Newbie; Latex Mattress Questions
Reply #4 Dec 27, 2010 2:07 PM
Joined: Dec 27, 2010
Points: 3
Hi.  I have had a latex bed for over 10 years now and love it.  Here in Phoenix, in the industrial area, I found a place that custom made latex beds (and probably other latex items).  They were much more informative about latex than the bed stores that I went to and they were less expensive too.  They had examples of the mattresses from extra extra firm to extremely soft without the covers so you could see and feel the difference.  Had a lot of good answers to my list of questions.  You should check around and see if there is a place like that around you.  As to the size of the pieces, I cannot answer that but at the homeshows sometimes I'll see a bedstore and they will have a "foam" mattress cut open (a corner will be cut off) so you can see in it and it is various layers of foam pads where the pads range from about 2 inches to 4inches in thickness, plus there is suppose to be a new foam mattress on the market with I guess a zipper cover and you can open it (at home) and adjust the way that you stack the foam layers and that will adjust the firmness of the mattress.   Also, just to inform you, some of the stores (they had it at the home show) now have a computerized bed that analyzes your body while on the bed and then suggests various beds / mattresses for your bady type.  Well, hope all that helps.  Take your time.  Wear comfortable clothes (pajama like) and lie on a bed for at least 30 minutes before buying.  THis is something that you will be using 6-8 hours a day so don't just buy because someone else says that it is the right bed for you.  Good luck.

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