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So far I have seen the ones on SLAB and sleepez, there is also a $650 one from Flobeds (a bit out of my price range). Are there any others I'm missing? I keep googling for an organic quilted encasement but not coming up with anything, I thought there would be more choices. I prefer something with cotton / wool. Thanks! |
| Thanks tjstogner - I think we're on the same page, I too agree the 100% organic cotton barrier is the best bet. And the thinnest so you can take advantage of the latex comfort layers. I think if I need more cush I'd rather add a 1" layer of 20 ILD latex (or softer) instead of a thick wool mattress cover. My layers will be delivered next week so I'll need to decide soon. |
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The Crescent Moon encasements are a lower average pore size in the cotton and are a little higher quality....but those allersoft ones for the price are really good. To be honest though, if you do one of those covers it should go over something like a quilted woolen cover, although they protect against dust mites penetrating into the mattress core; they do not protect the mattress from perspiration damage over time. The salt content in your perspiration literally pulverizes rubber down over time, this is why in europe for decades (even before they had strict fire codes as well) sheeps wool or other animal hair was always used in the high quality latex mattresses to prevent this from happening, as well as to regulate your temperature and humidity. |
| Thanks Budgy, if given just raw 100% natural latex layers what would be your overall choice for encasement, cover, protector, etc? I'm not sure what I should be going for between the latex and the fitted bed sheet. So much about dust mites, bed bugs, etc... I have a 6 month old little boy and a dog that loves to jump into bed too. |
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I'd either go with a nice encasement like the flobeds one which has a substsantial amount of wool sewn into the cover, or get a FBM zippered terrycloth encasement (machine washable) and a thick wool mattress topper like this: http://www.woolenmill.com/sections/Wool_Mattress_Pads.php. I'd then cover everything in one of these: http://www.dreamsoftbedware.com/allcomapad.html which is also machine washable. The wool topper can be set outside in the sun a couple of times a year to kill dust mites, and can also be drycleaned or preferrably professionally wet cleaned when necessary. These were the options I had it narrowed down to when I was contemplating a DIY bed. |
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megalops wrote: I'd either go with a nice encasement like the flobeds one which has a substsantial amount of wool sewn into the cover, or get a FBM zippered terrycloth encasement (machine washable) and a thick wool mattress topper like this: http://www.woolenmill.com/sections/Wool_Mattress_Pads.php. I'd then cover everything in one of these: http://www.dreamsoftbedware.com/allcomapad.html which is also machine washable. The wool topper can be set outside in the sun a couple of times a year to kill dust mites, and can also be drycleaned or preferrably professionally wet cleaned when necessary. These were the options I had it narrowed down to when I was contemplating a DIY bed. |
| Wool is flammable. In fact, if you were to buy an all latex mattress at a store like I just did, they can't just use wool as a fire retardant and be done with it (would not meet FR requirements). In my case they added silica spray to the wool layer. I asked to opt out of the silica spray, but they need a doctors note. |
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tjstogner wrote: Wool is flammable. In fact, if you were to buy an all latex mattress at a store like I just did, they can't just use wool as a fire retardant and be done with it (would not meet FR requirements). In my case they added silica spray to the wool layer. I asked to opt out of the silica spray, but they need a doctors note. As far as wool being flammable, so is steel. That doesn't mean wool can't pass the burn test on its own. See: http://www.popsci.com/node/9344 Many online retailers claim their wool filled encasements have passed the fire requirements without the use of chemicals like flobeds: here: http://www.flobeds.com/burntest.htm and here: http://www.flobeds.com/PleinAirWool.htm "FloBeds was the first mattress company to use wool (and no chemicals) to pass the new Federal Fire Resistance standards. We have wool on all six sides of the mattress." They do this by compressing a thick wad of wool inside their encasement. Now some say they're lying to us, but I do believe they'd be open to some pretty hefty lawsuits if proven, which can be easily done via some simple lab tests. I'm guessing that they're telling the truth. This message was modified Jan 28, 2012 by megalops
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megalops wrote:
As far as wool being flammable, so is steel. That doesn't mean wool can't pass the burn test on its own. See: http://www.popsci.com/node/9344 Many online retailers claim their wool filled encasements have passed the fire requirements without the use of chemicals like flobeds: here: http://www.flobeds.com/burntest.htm and here: http://www.flobeds.com/PleinAirWool.htm "FloBeds was the first mattress company to use wool (and no chemicals) to pass the new Federal Fire Resistance standards. We have wool on all six sides of the mattress." They do this by compressing a thick wad of wool inside their encasement. Now some say they're lying to us, but I do believe they'd be open to some pretty hefty lawsuits if proven, which can be easily done via some simple lab tests. I'm guessing that they're telling the truth. Here, to answer some of your questions, (especially since you are making people believe steel is as flammable as wool....)
"As you can see in all the proof above everything organic burns, there are no natural, chemical free, or nontoxic mattresses that comply with the federal regulation. They all contain toxic chemicals. Your only choice for a chemical free mattress is by prescription." "Cotton burns at 255 degrees and untreated Wool burns at 600 degrees. The open flame test is 2,000 degrees for over a minute. It is scientifically impossible for a blend of untreated cotton and wool to pass the test." Silica is not considered a chemical- therefore someone can say there are no chemicals. “They do use a sand based material mixed in with their wool to help meet the flame retardant standards.” Sand is Silicon (Si) which you can see on the CPSC table of chemicals used in beds When you melt sand it makes glass. This is the Silica Glass or simple glass that is in the fibers of “inherently fire resistant fibers” that they call viscose, Visil, or FR Rayon. It is an extreme respiratory hazard and known to cause illness and cancer. " This message was modified Jan 29, 2012 by tjstogner
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Strobels website is so full of shit on this its not even funny. Formaldehyde is the most common FR chemical used in beds today, wool has a higher burning point than formaldehyde. The 1633 CFR regulations do not require beds to be flame proof, they just require a certain rate of heat release and rate of how fast the fire spreads. If you took the same piece of wool and tried to light it on fire from the top down it would self extinguish; the fire on these tests is applied to the surface of a mattress not the underside. No company has ever claimed that wool does not burn, but the laws have never required beds to be completely fire proof to begin with. |