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With all this talk of mattress surgery here, I'm starting to think that not one S brand manufacturer (Sealy, Simmons, etc...) makes a ready made quality innerspring mattress with decent quality latex over top. Am I correct? Heck, I could search out Ikea and find a couple of mattresses that have latex over individual coils. Trouble is I only have room for a twin and it must be an XL. Ikea has no XL. I would think a range of quality latex over a good set of individual coils would make an awesome bed. Is there some sort of conspiracy by the S brand mfrs (perhaps they know a bed like this might last a long time), or another reason they seemingly don't make such a thing? This message was modified Jul 9, 2011 by slpngoc
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DoreenA wrote: I just got a flyer in the mail from a local furniture store (The Brick) advertising "Trump Home Luxury" beds. It claims layers of antibacterial fibre, latex foam,memory foam (none say how thick they are) and covered in silk. Individually wrapped pocket coils. |
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Ah...it's made by Serta and the "Trump Organization".
http://www.sertacanada.com/#/trump-home-luxury-a-signature-serta-mattress-collection |
| Holy cow! How tall is that thing! I'm sure the fact that it is a "signature collection" (is that a tredemark?) adds to the price. It says it has a 20 year limited warranty. I wonder what the real usable life of this mattress is. |
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sleepswithcats wrote: Holy cow! How tall is that thing! I'm sure the fact that it is a "signature collection" (is that a tredemark?) adds to the price. It says it has a 20 year limited warranty. I wonder what the real usable life of this mattress is. http://www.mattress-wiz.com/serta-trump-mattress-reviews-donald-trump-seven-springs-king-west-side-queen.html Looks great though, doesn't it? Is that a separate removable topper it has? |
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weewillywinky wrote:
I could make a guess why such a simple and effective design is not manufactured, as far as I know, by the S companies. I suspect it is because it would eliminate the mystique that these manufacturers use to jack up their prices. Things like labeling them with mysterious names like "smart foam" and changing the model name between stores and between seasons keeps us from finding out what they are really made of, and being able to compare apples to apples, and to figure out what is really the best value. Heck, if someone were willing to sell a set of decent innersprings, and then a person could buy toppers to fit their own preferences, it would probably put these big name companies out of business, making their hype and mysterious hidden secrets lose their mass appeal, along with the megabucks that go with them.
Just my two cents' worth, based on pure speculation and instant gut reaction, like they want from us when we go mattress shopping.
It's a smaller place with a couple salespeople and 4 or 5 in the mfr. area in back. He makes coil and individual coil mattresses only with velcro at the corners, then you select a topper that has a cover with matching velcro. Put them together and you have a mattress. His coil mattresses are not high end though. We have 2 in the house. It's pretty much a Bonnel coil with 390 coils in a Queen. He makes a 'pocket coil' mattress, but I doubt know the specs on it. This place is no organic mattress maker as the prices are pretty low. i.e. regular coil mattress with PU medium foam topper, foundation is a little over $700 w/ tax. Not fancy stuff. His web page says his latex is 100% natural stuff. This message was modified Jul 9, 2011 by slpngoc
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DoreenA wrote: I just got a flyer in the mail from a local furniture store (The Brick) advertising "Trump Home Luxury" beds. It claims layers of antibacterial fibre, latex foam,memory foam (none say how thick they are) and covered in silk. Individually wrapped pocket coils. |
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So I went to Sears asking if they have any quality innerspring beds with high quality all latex in the upholstery. He quickly shows me a Stearns and Foster pillowtop which has a layer of latex and, of course, the 'Variable Response Technology' polyurethane foam (they have to include something that breaks down). Geez, that mattress is about 15" high. Here's a theory - The mfrs know that good coil springs last. They know that good memory foam lasts a long time as does latex. They don't want mattresses to last too long. So, they put in PU foam to make sure something breaks down prematurely. Or, if they do have a big slab of memory foam or latex foam near the top - it is sitting on a slab of polyurethane foam (i.e. Serta iComfort, likely most tempurpedics). Hmmm, I wonder how the PU bases hold up. Ah well, at least there are natural mattress stores and such. |
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weewillywinky wrote: Looks great though, doesn't it? Is that a separate removable topper it has? |
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Holy cow! How tall is that thing?
Too tall. I'm not really understanding the towering height of these beds. I'm fairly tall for a woman - 5' 8", yet I had to climb up unto these massive beds when testing them at the store, and then kind of slide off. Anyone shorter would need a step stool or would have to take a flying leap from their doorway just to get on. When did bed vendors become as shady as used car salesmen? Why are there thousands of complaints about all the "S" beds (especially pillowtops) all over the net - all about the same things: Early and massive sagging on very expensive beds, and flimflam warrantys that seemingly cannot be enforced or can be voided on a whim? What the heck happened in the last 15 or so years? Why can't we get a good product that will last from companies that used to be reputable? I guess this is why all these mattress topper companies came into being...? |
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I agree with you all. It is too tall for comfort, but I guess a lot of people must think the taller the softer and the more comfortable it is. More for your money - ha ha. Planned obsolescence is a very plausible theory. I mean once you got that thing in your house for a few months, with all the health laws and all, most people would understand not wanting to let folks return them and be resold. And then again, with those warranties that look good on paper but you can almost never enforce, well, I guess that gives some folks that little extra comfort level too, when they're about to shell out a couple of grand or more on a mattress. Most people probably never try to research and find out the facts, like the folks on this forum do. Why is the industry riddled with such schemes? Probably because they can get away with it. No one can enforce getting their money back after the damage is done. More sales, more money, for the companies that make and sell them. Just plain old greed. Wrap up who knows what in a nice cover, give it some fancy names that sound really good and convincing, don't give the buyers the facts, give them a nice guarantee that puts their anxiety about spending so much money at rest, and then wait for them to come back in a year or so and buy another one. Just peachy. And if these 3 control the market, and they're all doing it, well, what real choice do most people have? Sure, there are options out there, but these are household names that have a lot of trust after all these years. And they used to make good beds that last, so I guess they're riding on their reputations. |