S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Jul 29, 2010 8:46 AM
Joined: Jul 29, 2010
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I just registered and I am posting this in gratitude to all of you who (unknowingly) helped us make a great mattress decision and to maybe help someone else. 

We were sleeping on a pillowtop mattress that we'd only had four years.  Every morning I would eagerly jump out of bed to escape the aches in my back!  We knew we'd made a mistake getting the pillowtop about one year into that mattress, but we had such a financial commitment to the thing that we suffered three more years.  Stupid.

Just purchased a Stearns & Foster Ultra Firm from the Estate Collection - they're called different things at different stores, as you all know.  At Mattress Warehouse (Cincy) it's called Governor's Park, at Macy's it's Carried Away.  Anyway, in both stores I laid on it a long time, and thought it perfect.  At home, though, another story -  too firm and bordered on uncomfortable, even though my husband and I both noticed our backs no longer hurt in the morning :). 

But we just yesterday added a 1" talalay latex topper (from foambymail) and it is exactly right - we both loved it last night.  Mattress is still very firm, but just that 1" makes a huge difference.  I waffled between ordering the 20 ild and the 32 ild (the only choices from foambymail) and ended up with the 20, figuring if the mattress was already too firm then the 32 might not help much.  It was definitely the right decision.  And I'm happy we got the firmer mattress in the first place - it's easy to add a topper, but can't remove softness (doing "surgery" would not have been for us!).

Also, and just as an fyi, I was a little nervous ordering from foambymail after reading one or two spotty reviews on here, but my experience with them was near perfect.  I had called them twice with information gathering, talking to two different people who were both very helpful.  I ordered online on Monday and we received the topper on Wednesday, which was lightning fast, imo (Michigan to Ohio).  Also, the foam I got looks perfect - off-white or a little cream colored, evenly colored, even holes, fit our king mattress exactly.  Just our experience, but it was an A+ and their price was unbeatable.

Anyway, thanks to all of you who've posted such great info here and I hope my post helps someone else.

 

Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #28 Aug 4, 2010 10:58 PM
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Location: San Jose, CA
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mjtx2 wrote:

And Gary, "niggardly" means to be miserly - see wiki on the controversies of using that word. 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22

You're incorrect in your criticism, but you're also in very good company.  It is indeed confusing.


I know what it means, just as I know what the dictionary definition of "gay" means. However, it is an outdated term, and to use it in this day and age is akin to referring to a cheery person as "gay", or even calling a car a horseless carriage. In general, it seems to be used by  those who are either deliberately trying to show off their vocabulary, trying to create an awkward situation, or a juvenile looking to snicker. I'm sure you are none of the above. But, it doesn't take a hell of a lot of common sense to know that it's a word better left unused, and that there are far better words to convey "miserly" or "stingy". In fact, I can think of two off the top of my head, "miserly" and "stingy".

BTW, my original response to Hellbed was written with humorous intent.
This message was modified Aug 4, 2010 by garypen
Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #29 Aug 5, 2010 10:51 AM
Joined: Jul 29, 2010
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garypen wrote:

 

 

 


I know what it means, just as I know what the dictionary definition of "gay" means. However, it is an outdated term, and to use it in this day and age is akin to referring to a cheery person as "gay", or even calling a car a horseless carriage. In general, it seems to be used by  those who are either deliberately trying to show off their vocabulary, trying to create an awkward situation, or a juvenile looking to snicker. I'm sure you are none of the above. But, it doesn't take a hell of a lot of common sense to know that it's a word better left unused, and that there are far better words to convey "miserly" or "stingy". In fact, I can think of two off the top of my head, "miserly" and "stingy".

BTW, my original response to Hellbed was written with humorous intent.


You know, I do see your point.  My only thought is that the word "gay" using either meaning is the same word. The "n" word and the word "niggardly" are just not the same word, although they share the first four letters.  I just hate to see political correctness get pushed to the point that someone with an extensive vocabulary, a trait I generally admire, gets criticized, even in jest, for correctly using a word that happens to share it's beginning with a racially negative word (one that, by the way, blacks are allowed to direct towards each other with impunity.  I do have a problem with that double standard - if the word is bad, it's bad no matter who uses it.  But I digress...).  I don't buy that anyone using a deep vocabulary is just showing off or trying to antagonize (especially on a mattress forum - this ain't the op-ed page).  Anyway, since black leaders apparently have no problem with the word "niggardly," neither do I. 

Thanks for the explanation and the good point.

This message was modified Aug 5, 2010 by mjtx2
Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #30 Aug 5, 2010 4:24 PM
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ok  i just ordered a 2" soft latex topper from  foambymail,  i hope i have as good luck  as you did  MJTX2
Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #31 Aug 5, 2010 7:07 PM
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Location: San Jose, CA
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I had excellent luck with a FBM 1" soft latex topper. I see no apparent reason why you won't have a similar experience with their 2". (Other than 2" is an awful lot of cushiness, probably too much for me.)
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Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #32 Aug 20, 2010 2:07 PM
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UPDATE:  got my 2 inch latex topper from foambymail  nice and clean just like MJTX2  said their's was,  i have slept on it for 3 nights now, first night i was feeling a half way better sleep,  now the next 2 nights  it feels like i have been beat up on it,  i got the 20 ild  but it has a kind of firm feel to it,     and one know why iam feeling like this,  i also  got a frame with a middle rail to support the mattress better,  could 2 inch be too much.
Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #33 Aug 20, 2010 10:07 PM
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I ordered a 1" soft talalay king from FBM a week or so ago and a few hours later they called back to say they were all out, and would be for at least several weeks.

Maybe they meant just in the king, but is raises the possiblity that they may have shipped you the wrong density. 

tony wrote:

UPDATE:  got my 2 inch latex topper from foambymail  nice and clean just like MJTX2  said their's was,  i have slept on it for 3 nights now, first night i was feeling a half way better sleep,  now the next 2 nights  it feels like i have been beat up on it,  i got the 20 ild  but it has a kind of firm feel to it,     and one know why iam feeling like this,  i also  got a frame with a middle rail to support the mattress better,  could 2 inch be too much.


Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #34 Aug 22, 2010 2:53 AM
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Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #35 Aug 22, 2010 3:54 AM
Location: L.A. area
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tony wrote:

UPDATE:  got my 2 inch latex topper from foambymail  nice and clean just like MJTX2  said their's was,  i have slept on it for 3 nights now, first night i was feeling a half way better sleep,  now the next 2 nights  it feels like i have been beat up on it,  i got the 20 ild  but it has a kind of firm feel to it,     and one know why iam feeling like this,  i also  got a frame with a middle rail to support the mattress better,  could 2 inch be too much.

Is that a 20ILD TALALAY? Or Dunlop?

No way a 20ILD Talalay should feel firm. If it does, then I'd say you may have gotten the wrong ILD. Look around carefully for any marking on it that might indicate the ILD, and call them to see if it's possible they shipped you the wrong ILD.

On the other hand, if it's Dunlop, a 20ILD might feel too firm to you.

Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #36 Aug 22, 2010 10:51 AM
Joined: Nov 17, 2009
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jimsocal wrote:

 

Is that a 20ILD TALALAY? Or Dunlop?

No way a 20ILD Talalay should feel firm. If it does, then I'd say you may have gotten the wrong ILD. Look around carefully for any marking on it that might indicate the ILD, and call them to see if it's possible they shipped you the wrong ILD.

On the other hand, if it's Dunlop, a 20ILD might feel too firm to you.



ok jim  i will  check  for markings and report back sometime after 3pm today

Re: S&F with 1" talalay - love it
Reply #37 Aug 22, 2010 11:40 AM
Joined: Nov 17, 2009
Points: 81
no markings  jim, what is the next move will 1 inch be more softer.

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