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So, today I went to some local stores to check out really firm mattresses that I could put a latex topper on. I really liked the Simmons Beautyrest World Class (Parksdale) extra firm. Anyone have experience with this mattress? They actually had a 2" Natura natural talalay latex topper at the store, so I was able to try it on top, which felt great. Nice and firm, but the latex was good on top. I'm having a hard time finding a lot of reviews on this mattress in general. It felt very nice & firm in store and they of course assure you of no sagging. But- hard to know. Do these materials seem like they'd be durable? Or no? Or anyone have this one? Apparently it contains the following: 1" high density purfoam- luxury foam 1" energy foam (3.5lb NxG memory foam band in center 1/3 support area) 1000 coils / 13/25 gauge (8") 1/2" Energy Foam |
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My husband and I bought the Simmons Beautyrest World Class extra firm (Elderberry) tight top in May. I'm not sure, but the name Elderberry may be the Macy's name. We were looking for a very firm mattress with no inferior foam. It is an extremely firm mattress. We are campers, and as my husband says, sleeping on the ground is softer than this mattress. We initially put 1.5 inches of memory foam topper on top of it, but that wasn't enough. We then added another 1.5 inches of a Talalay latex foam topper, which began to help. We are now looking for our next layer of topper. At the rate we are going, we are essentially building a mattress on top of it, since it is as firm as a box spring. It does not yield at all to pressure. The saleswoman told us that we would definitely need a topper and she was correct. My husband woke up with numb arms, and as I am a side sleeper, it does not yield enough for my hips or shoulders to keep my spine in alignment. I think that as a base, it is ideal, because it truly does seem that it will stand up for a long time. Just be prepared to layer toppers on it to get a comfort layer. Good luck! |
| Update: I put another 2" of latex on this thing for a total of 3.5" and must say the springs are still a bit too uncompromising for me. Arms always alseep in the morning etc. Going to swap it out for a foam/latex hybrid at a loss. |
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numbernine wrote: Update: I put another 2" of latex on this thing for a total of 3.5" and must say the springs are still a bit too uncompromising for me. Arms always alseep in the morning etc. Going to swap it out for a foam/latex hybrid at a loss. Hi, I cannot say from experience in sleeping on one but from looking at them very closely I can say that the Simmons are some of the best pocket coil springs around, aside from much more expensive "specialty" or "custom made" mattresses. I have had a complete turn around on this, I used to hate Simmons. Now I am anxious to buy one and try it. Why the turn around? Simply because I have laid on them, looked at the way the springs are made and compared them to others like S&F and Sealy who also now use pocket coils. As for a particular Simmons being too firm, here's what I can tell you: they all use the same springs of which there are 2 basic types: There is the very firm springs which are made from 13.5 and there are the regular 15.5 gauge wires; then there are the double-row ones which as I recall have a row of each or maybe the very firm ones have 2 rows of 13.5 gauge springs. The springs themselves are NOT THAT firm. What makes the mattress too firm is that they add a layer or two of very firm pu (polyurethane) foam. (and this goes for virtually ALL mattress companies). So... in a worst case scenario where you cannot return the mattress, and it's too firm still, you can do mattress surgery (see the thread at the top of the forum) and remove the offending layer and that itself might solve the problem. If it does not, you can then add a layer or two of quality latex in the firmness you desire, put the top back on the mattress, cover it with your fitted sheet and no one will know your mattress has been doctored. |
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molly2005 wrote:
So, today I went to some local stores to check out really firm mattresses that I could put a latex topper on.
I really liked the Simmons Beautyrest World Class (Parksdale) extra firm. Anyone have experience with this mattress? They actually had a 2" Natura natural talalay latex topper at the store, so I was able to try it on top, which felt great. Nice and firm, but the latex was good on top. I'm having a hard time finding a lot of reviews on this mattress in general. It felt very nice & firm in store and they of course assure you of no sagging. But- hard to know. Do these materials seem like they'd be durable? Or no? Or anyone have this one? Apparently it contains the following: 1" high density purfoam- luxury foam 1" energy foam (3.5lb NxG memory foam band in center 1/3 support area) 1000 coils / 13/25 gauge (8") 1/2" Energy Foam Molly, I have a Simmons Beautyrest Bagwell, extra firm mattress for over seven years now and at 230 pounds, it's flat as the day I bought it. However, I have been adding mattress toppers continuously. First I tried a 2" memory foam from Macy's which proved to be to hard. Then I added a quilted wool duvet from McRoskeys with not much success. Two week ago, I purchased a Queen Rejuvenite mattress topper from Arizona Premium On-line with a 28 ILD rating manufactured at Latex International and while this feels nice to sleep on, the 28 ILD on the extra firm simmonds is still too hard. Hope this helps.
The McRoskey mattress topper is a Brun De Vian-Tiran topper which is a very comfortable topper that I just added over my Rejuvenite Topper. This message was modified Jul 20, 2011 by old_golfer
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old_golfer wrote:
Molly, I have a Simmons Beautyrest Bagwell, extra firm mattress for over seven years now and at 230 pounds, it's flat as the day I bought it. However, I have been adding mattress toppers continuously. First I tried a 2" memory foam from Macy's which proved to be to hard. Then I added a quilted wool duvet from McRoskeys with not much success. Two week ago, I purchased a Queen Rejuvenite mattress topper from Arizona Premium On-line with a 28 ILD rating manufactured at Latex International and while this feels nice to sleep on, the 28 ILD on the extra firm simmonds is still too hard. Hope this helps.
The McRoskey mattress topper is a Brun De Vian-Tiran topper which is a very comfortable topper that I just added over my Rejuvenite Topper.
I just added a 19 ILD Rejuvenite Latex Mattress Topper over the 28 ILD Topper and then the Brun De Vian-Tiran Wool and this combination is in my humble opinion "PERFECT". |