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I wanted to post a quick update. I ordered the SleepEZ special (8"). It arrived yesterday. First impression, after one night, is amazing. I don't want to say too much till I have had more time to try it and see how it does longer term. Assembly was fairly easy. The bottom layer was a little tricky getting it to line up in the cover, but the other layers went quick. X-firm base, firm middle, medium top. I will update again soon. Mike |
| I'm 5'4" and about 155 lbs, and wife is 5'6" and about 160 lbs. Both normal build. |
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OK. While I can't know how sensitive you may be to pressure for sure ... I suspect that you may need a softer and or thicker comfort layer given what you have posted in the past. Part of the problem here is that the "firm" mattresses you preferred in your past posts were all softer on top than what you have now while like yours they were firmer underneath. Your Englander had probably 2" of soft poly over something firmer, The Pure latex bliss pamper had 1" of soft latex over a firmer core, and the embody had 3" of softer latex over a firmer core. The softest latex that sleepez sells is 22-24 which is on the soft side but may not be soft enough for you. Don't forget that many "very firm" mattresses have a couple of inches of soft stuff on top (softer than what you have now) and the firmness comes from what is under a very soft comfort layer. A couple of inches of 14-19 ILD over something firmer may be closer to mattresses you have preferred before and could feel firmer to you as well even though the top is softer. Given your previous posts and your stats (you don't weigh a lot), 3" of soft on top would probably be ok with the X firm or Firm under it however this is a little thicker and firmer version of "soft" than what you have preferred before with the possible exception of the embody. 2" of soft may also work well but may need a slightly "less firm" layer underneath it than with 3" on top to give you a little bit more softness and so you don't go through 2" and feel something really firm underneath. How does your wife feel about the versions you have tried ... she may need a thicker layer under her hips as women in general can be more sensitive and carry more of their weight around their hips while men are a little more evenly distributed with more weight in their shoulders. Phoenix PS: if you are up to it and think it would help ... you could try laying on the Pure Latex bliss pamper with a 2" topper (this would be 2" of 14 ILD latex and 1" of probably 19 or slightly higher latex over a firmer core) and then compare it to laying on the PLB Nature with no topper (this would be 2" of soft latex probably @ 19 or slightly higher latex over 1" of very firm over the firm core). This would give you a chance to test 2" of soft over firmer and 3" of soft over firmer to see which one worked best ... although the soft in all of them would be softer than what you now have. If you do this I would spend some time relaxed on each of them. Are you and your wife side, back, stomach, or combination sleepers as this too will determine how thick your comfort layer should be and will affect your perception of firmness. Phoenix This message was modified Jan 14, 2011 by Phoenix
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I had hoped the fine tuning of this wouldn't be so tough. But I can't say enough for Sleepez customer service. Shawn is so easy to work with and just seems to want to make sure we are happy. I would say both of us were very happy for the 1st month or so with the x-firm, firm, medium. But after that, we both started to feel the pressure points, although I would say my wife more so...which goes along with what you are saying. She also is going through a rough time with some middle back issues with a protruding disk....which complicates this whole thing. We switched to the Firm, medium, medium combo for a little over a week now. She is still having pressure point issues and for me it is like I described in my earlier post tonight.....very hard to explain. You gave 3 different descriptions of soft......i guess the correct comfort layer soft is what we are trying to achive. Definately not looking for a sinking in feeling, just soft enough to relieve pressure points, but supportive. Mike |
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I have also found that Shawn is great in his efforts to help people find what is best for them. Sometimes though we disagree on mattress construction it seems :). What are your normal sleeping positions (you and your wife) Phoenix |
| Combination of side and back for both of us. It was more side sleeping before this mattress, but since we have had this mattress, it is a combination. |
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OK that makes sense (especially that you are now more on your back) since this mattress is firmer on top than the others you have tried and there would be less pressure on your back. Based on all of this I would suggest either 3" of soft over something quite firm (this would be a little different from your "past" but may work well especially considering that you would have a little firmer top layer than the "soft stuff" you have had before so it would be more supportive) or 2" of soft over something still firm but a little less so (so the "transition between the softer top and firmer middle isn't quite so "abrupt). The reason for this is I suspect you may need 3" of "pressure relieving material" given your side sleeping and your wife's sensitivity and this could either come mostly from a 3" top layer or a 2" top layer with a little "help" from a middle layer. The only thing I would be worried about is that 3" of 22-24 ILD may be either a little too thick (sinking down too much) or a little too firm (not quite enough pressure relief) given your preferences in the past and your wife's experiences but it would likely be fine. Overall though I would say that a 3" soft layer over firm or even x firm would be your best choice. Testing the two PLB models I mentioned before may help you decide. What you would be looking for is which one gave you the best combination of "pressure relief" while still feeling like you weren't sinking down too far. Phoenix |
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Ordered 3" soft today. The first configuration I plan on trying is 3" soft on top, 3" extra-firm in the middle, and 2" medium on the bottom and then go from there. I hope this works. It takes a week for it to get here from Arizona, so I will update sometime next week. Mike |