| I'm in Canada and searching for a softer latex topper is getting futile. However I did find this product and wonder if anyone has heard of it or tried it? |
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I just got a very nice reply from Connie at foambymail(foamfactory/mattressbymail) and the price for shipping etc. is very good - in fact, the best deal I've found online:
2" Full 54x75 - Soft - 20ILD Talalay Latex 5.6LB : $ 151.99 20% Tax : $ 30.40 - covers insurance, duties, broker fees and customs across the border Shipping Fee: $ 20.00 - via FedEx Ground Total: $ 202.39 USD - Final Cost to your door. Since there's no place I can go to actually see or test a product like this, I'm buying a pig in a poke, and I'm a little nervous to order it since returning things to another country can be a major, and expensive, headache. I know what constitutes comfort and softness is very individual, but what I'm looking for is something that can somewhat replicate the delicious cloud-like softness and body conforming support of a new pillowtop mattress, which I really need as a stomach sleeper (worst position I know!) with some lower back problems. Last questions, I promise....Would 2" be enough to provide something like that softness on a "Firm" innerspring mattress and remove pressure points? Does it feel as though you're lying a slab of rubber? I know it's very hard to describe but can someone try to tell me exactly how it feels? |
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I'm sure you've heard this before Doreen, but stomach sleeping is often called the worst sleeping position. There's just no way to get a natural position for your spine. I saw it mentioned - sew a tennis ball to your front and stomach sleeping days will be over. I just lay on side, arm at side and small pillow between knees. I've sampled Select Sleep's 'Plush' latex 2" mattress topper. I don't have ILD specs on that foam. Even the 2" on top of a bare mattress (springs with only 1" PU foam on top) makes things feel quite cushy on my side. You asked if a topper would be made with Dunlop process. I say no because Dunlop is a simpler, less expensive process than Talalay, and Dunlop results in denser latex foam. It would be used as a base layer in an all foam mattress, not a topper. |
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There's really no place locally in canada that carries latex toppers or mattresses? It is tough to tell what works for you without trying it in person - but if you must buy it sight unseen, going in increments is the second best way to go. Could you try the FBM topper and see what you think, then if you need more, purchase another layer? Some on this forum have used the 32ild under the 20 and liked it. Here are some examples if you want to read their descriptions: http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/my-foambymail-diy-mattress-report-pictures/19412-0-1.html |
@slpngoc - Yes, I know stomach sleeping is bad as my physiotherapist has told me, but it's hard to break the habits of a lifetime. I've tried more than once to become a back sleeper but I suffer from insomnia as it is, so that just didn't work out. "Cushy" works for me, so thanks a lot for helping me decide what to do!! |
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DoreenA wrote: I just got a very nice reply from Connie at foambymail(foamfactory/mattressbymail) and the price for shipping etc. is very good - in fact, the best deal I've found online:
2" Full 54x75 - Soft - 20ILD Talalay Latex 5.6LB : $ 151.99 20% Tax : $ 30.40 - covers insurance, duties, broker fees and customs across the border Shipping Fee: $ 20.00 - via FedEx Ground Total: $ 202.39 USD - Final Cost to your door. Since there's no place I can go to actually see or test a product like this, I'm buying a pig in a poke, and I'm a little nervous to order it since returning things to another country can be a major, and expensive, headache. I know what constitutes comfort and softness is very individual, but what I'm looking for is something that can somewhat replicate the delicious cloud-like softness and body conforming support of a new pillowtop mattress, which I really need as a stomach sleeper (worst position I know!) with some lower back problems. Last questions, I promise....Would 2" be enough to provide something like that softness on a "Firm" innerspring mattress and remove pressure points? Does it feel as though you're lying a slab of rubber? I know it's very hard to describe but can someone try to tell me exactly how it feels? Hi Doreen. Just went over to www.selectsleepmattress.com/home.html , laid on plush and firm 2" latex toppers. I'm surprised at his price for a 2" firm latex topper, full size - $430 before tax and shipping, ouch! He said he would not do internet sales as he won't try to compete with their low, $150 ish prices. He says his quality is all-natural latex (all-natural latex is expensive to get the latex rubber and expensive to process it into a mattress or topper). He said he would ship anywhere, it's all a matter of cost. I laid on one of his bare individual coil mattress with only about 1" poly foam on it. I'd call it a too firm mattress. Putting the 2" firm latex on top, I would say the plushness matches that of a decent pillowtop mattress. Was this combination as good as I felt at Natural Mattress Stores $2100 Queen Clarity mattress? No. That mattress was off the hook. I hope this helps out. Could a local store like Bed Bath and Beyond order a latex topper and allow you a refund if you don't like it? |
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There's no BB&B here in Quebec. Many chains won't come here because they don't want to have to change their names and special order all new French signs. I could order a latex topper here in Canada from a place The Mattress and Sleep Company, but one of the few I see is $385 (including cotton cover) for a full size and it's composed of:
That seems totally out of whack to me. The Foambymail prices seem quite low, but not overly low, compared to others I looked at but for all of them, the firmer and more dense they are the higher the price I believe? As I quoted above, it says their topper is 5.6lbs, but I have no idea what that means. The place you visited that wants $430 for the same(?) product..hard to understand unless the internet sellers have very high volume which would lower prices? The fact that you say the 2" topper you tried gave an approximation of a pillowtop mattress is very helpful - that's what I really wanted to know. I want that "cloud-like" feeling, like sleeping on a giant marshmallow! I even originally considered buying the pillowtop mattress I tried, since it was like heaven, and doing the surgery I read about here down the road, but that seemed a little extreme to me. Plus the thing was so darned heavy I think even putting sheets on it would be an ordeal and rotating it, impossible. Thanks a bunch One final question - did you notice a smell on the toppers you tried? I've read complaints about that and I'm sensitive to smells - even nice ones. |
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I've heard that all natural latex does not off-gas or smell. I didn't smell anything with his latex toppers. I don't know about blended synthetic/natural latex, but I sort of doubt it would off-gas or smell. I was pretty surprised about his price for a full size topper. Perhaps he was mistaken. I might check again. Memory foam smells absolutely terrible when it is new - like death, formaldehyde or something. Yuck. I would describe latex as 'springy' feeling. Makes sense as it is latex rubber and rubber is springy. Gives the softest thing to lay on if it's the right comfort level for me. I'm really interested in latex from now on. I've got a memory foam set coming tomorrow as that was the best I could do from Sears for now. If that mattress doesn't pan out, then I'm on to latex only. This message was modified Jul 12, 2011 by slpngoc
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| Latex does have an odour for sure, but most do not mind it. Natural latex and synthetic latex both have distinctive odours to them. It certainly is harder to notice in a mattress versus say a pillow however. |
Latex mattresses, yes. Toppers, no. Costco has one but it's over 30 ILD and I don't want that. You're right, it's very tough to buy something "blind", which is why I keep bugging everyone with my questions! I think I have all the info I need now to make my decision. Thanks to all for advice and links. proof1st wrote: There's really no place locally in canada that carries latex toppers or mattresses?
It is tough to tell what works for you without trying it in person - but if you must buy it sight unseen, going in increments is the second best way to go. Could you try the FBM topper and see what you think, then if you need more, purchase another layer? |
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DoreenA wrote: I could order a latex topper here in Canada from a place The Mattress and Sleep Company, but one of the few I see is $385 (including cotton cover) for a full size and it's composed of:
2 inch latex: Talalay latex
I wouldnt say that price is totally out of whack - for example Sleep like a bear's price for a 2" full size blended talalay topper is 272 with no cover. Covers can be tough to find cheap. SLAB's covers go for over $100. of course you may not need a cover... Another reason so many go for Foam by mail, along with the good prices on the latex, they basically throw in a terry cloth cover for cheap. I can tell you my impressions on latex toppers - I tried 14 ild and 19 ild 3" toppers and definitely felt the encompassing floating-on-a-cloud feeling with both. I tried the 14 ild on a much firmer bed and it wasnt the same, I could feel the firmer surface through the topper - bottoming out I guess you'd call it. Doing the same with the 19 ild, it didnt feel like it bottomed out - still good and soft. I do think incrementally softer layers make a difference, but one layer may work for you if you find the right combination of support/softness and thickness. I cant speak from experience but many do say the FBM 20 ild is firmer than other manufacturers 20ild. something to consider if youre thinking of going that route. Whatever you choose, keep us updated as to your results! |