Struggling with our SleepEZ, tempted by Sealy Springfree
Oct 4, 2008 10:43 PM
Joined: Oct 4, 2008
Points: 4
 

So my wife and I did the research, read loads of threads on this excellent site, then plumped for the SleepEZ 10,000 all Dunlop.  We wanted latex for customisation and longevity.  We chose Dunlop because we tried a Savvy Rest all Dunlop combo at a local retailer and both really liked the bed but not the price so we tried to recreate it at SleepEZ prices.  We've got firm, medium and soft on each side so plenty of options.  We're two weeks in and my wife now hates the bed and wants to send it back.  I'm still willing to try and make it work but her will is stronger than mine...  I would like to share our experience and then ask for a bit of advice.  Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.  We're both side sleepers who toss and turn in our old, saggy, sprung mattress.

The first 3 nights we put the mattress on the floor before the foundation arrived.  We'd ordered the slatted foundation from SleepEZ because our old bed was a British queen size so we were starting from scratch.  We set it up firm, medium soft on both sides as that's what we'd liked on the Savvy Rest.  I lay on the latex before we put the cover on and it felt good.  As soon as the cover was on it stiffened up and became far more hard and rubbery, nothing like the Savvy Rest.  My first night was OK although I woke up with hip and lower back pain.  My wife was neither comfy or pain-free.  The next night we unzipped the top cover and laid a thin blanket over the latex and beneath the sheet.  I had a very comfortable night's sleep - I stayed on my side all night whereas I usually go side - back - elbow in the ribs for snoring - side again etc.  However, I still had a lot of hip and back pain in the morning.  My wife preferred it this way, but still didn't like it.  Spoke to Shaun who suggested unzipping the top cover but leaving it on the top.  This worked for me - it felt like the Savvy Rest and I had another good night but pain in the morning.  My wife - no change.  We also tried a few different combinations to soften her side up. 

The next night the foundation had arrived.  The mattress felt hard and rubbery again even with the cover unzipped.  I guessed that this was because the foundation is very firm whereas the floor is pretty bouncy and creaky.  I had a terrible night tossing and turning although no pain in the morning.  My wife's night was even worse.  The next few nights were all the same, whatever combinations we tried, until she snapped and got the old Ikea mattress we were replacing on to the floor and slept on that. 

Spoke to Shaun again.  I should say that the service from SleepEZ has been excellent and Shaun is a pleasure to deal with.  He suggested sending me a soft talalay topper and to explore 3 further options. 1 - use it as a topper ; 2 - swap it for the soft dunlop inside the cover; 3 - put it between the foundation and the mattress to soften the impact of the foundation.  The topper arrives tomorrow.  Meanwhile we've been exploring other options should we send the mattress back.  We've tried the Sealy Springfree latex range and we're quite impressed.  You get 9" of latex plus varying depths of cushy foam on top depending on your preference.  We like the plush model which only has 2 1/2" on top of the latex.  You can't customise it though.  It's pretty much the same as the Purembrace range they do for Macy's but much cheaper.  My wife says we'll wait for the topper before making a final decision but only to see if we like it as a topper, not because she thinks it will somehow redeem the mattress.  She is sleeping on the SleepEZ configured soft-medium-soft.  This is the only way to mitigate the effect of the foundation and she finds it slightly less uncomfortable than our old mattress.  The other side is a concrete slab masquerading as firm-firm-medium so I'm on the old mattress on the floor. 

Thanks for sticking with me this far.  I now turn to the questions that I am hoping you kind people will be able to help us with.  First, does anyone have any other suggestions or combinations for when the topper arrives?   Shaun's 3 options all make sense to me but I'll try anything.  Second - that foundation.  It makes the mattress feel so firm that I'm wondering whether we'll need to get a box spring to go on top of it even if we get a Springfree.  The alternative is to put a soft layer under the mattress to have the same effect.   I've seen posts on this site where it's suggested that a box spring is unnecessary for latex mattresses.  Ignoring the firmness for a moment, I'd like to know whether there's any other downside to putting a mattress directly on top of the firm slatted foundation?  For example, because it doesn't absorb any movement, does it shorten the life of the mattress?  Finally, does anyone have any experience of the Sealy Springfree mattresses?

Thanks for reading, and we'd be really grateful for any advice or suggestions.

Re: Struggling with our SleepEZ, tempted by Sealy Springfree
Reply #8 Oct 6, 2008 11:16 PM
Location: NC
Joined: Feb 21, 2008
Points: 72
slopey wrote:
Thanks Lynn and Sabra - do you have your Springfree on a solid foundation or a boxspring?  Sealy's newish Purembrace line at Macys is supposedly 100% synthetic talalay, but less of it and more cheapo foam.  Perhaps it has better quality latex than the Springfree but I'm put off by the extra foam and the higher price...  ho hum...  looks like I'm on the floor for a bit longer.    </p><p>The effect of the foundation is still confounding me.  I understand the basic physics of it as Mr Pointy explained but it's the dramatic difference in the feel of the mattress that I don't get.  I didn't check what the Savvy Rest I tried in the store was resting on but according to their website they only put them on solid foundations, not boxsprings, which they claim will contribute to sagging, so I assume the store model was on something similar to the foundation I got from SleepEZ.  Also, Savvy Rest's soft dunlop is 28-30 ILD which is closer to SleepEZ's medium.  SleepEZ soft dunlop is 20 ILD so if they're both on the same kind of foundation the SleepEZ should feel signficantly softer, so why doesn't it!?  I suppose it could be the quality of the latex but SleepEZ's credentials, as testified to many times on this website, suggest otherwise.</p><p>The talalay topper arrives tomorrow so I'll post an update on how that works out with options 1-3.

Mine is on a boxspring
Re: Struggling with our SleepEZ, tempted by Sealy Springfree
Reply #9 Oct 7, 2008 9:31 PM
Joined: Oct 4, 2008
Points: 4
I promised an update on our post-topper experience.   First, the topper itself (2.8" of talalay, 22 ILD I think) feels very nice and cushy.  I read some posts on this site which described talalay as springier than dunlop with more push-back but my experience is quite the opposite.  The topper feels much softer than the 20 ILD dunlop layer although slightly less supportive.  I guess this proves how important it is to try both kinds out for yourself if you can.

We re-set the mattress to firm-medium-soft, zipped it up and then put the topper on.  This felt far too soft and we sank way down.  Understandable when you think we were lying on just under 6" of soft latex.  We then tried the soft, firm, medium (bottom to top) with the topper on.  This felt much better.  I'm convinced the base needs a soft layer directly above it.  We slept last night on this combo.  No surprises that Mrs Slopey didn't like it, although she thought it was better than before.  I found it pretty comfortable, did not have any pain in the morning but...  I tossed and turned all night and felt (and looked) like a zombie all day.  We're going to stick with this set-up tonight but I'm almost certain we're going to send the whole thing back.  Mrs S just can't make it work for her and I haven't actually had a good night's sleep on it yet.  We may keep the topper, depending on what other mattress we get instead.  Maybe go the firm spring plus topper route.

I don't want to put anyone off latex mattresses or SleepEZ who, as I said before, have been brilliant to deal with.  Other threads on this site prove that people find their beds very comfortable, and I'm still convinced I can find a set-up that I like, but perhaps its not for us.  We'll sleep on it for the next few weeks anyway until we get a new mattress so who know we may grow to like it, but time is running out.

Re: Struggling with our SleepEZ, tempted by Sealy Springfree
Reply #10 Oct 7, 2008 9:44 PM
Joined: Sep 27, 2008
Points: 32
Also try the following config (bottom to top): Firm, medium, topper  (dont use the soft layer at all).