Two Strikes And.....................
Nov 29, 2011 11:40 AM
Joined: Aug 16, 2011
Points: 26
This is REALLY starting to become a major pain in the azz (well actually in the back).

 

 

After deciding to try out a memory/visco (whatever) King size mattress, we went with the Sleep Innovation NovaForm Gel from Costco due to the return policy. Had it for a few weeks and it was just about as hard as a rock. Called Sleep Innovations and told them the story and was advised that the Nova Gel is their firmest mattress (nice of Costco to not say that in their description, huh?). The lady stated that their Roma Serra is the softest one. OK, so we order the Roma Serra, wait another 3 weeks until it arrives and set it up.

Well, that was almost 3 weeks ago and instead of getting better, my back pain has moved from the lower back to the middle back, only 10x worse I can't even lie in on my side without extreme pain.  My wife has pretty much the same issue, but slightly better.

So now, I am sitting here with 2 mattresses to return (Costco is 2 hours away and haven't had time to return #1 yet), and have pretty much written off foam mattresses, period.

I am not willing to take the $2500 Tempurpedic chance at all, especially after these two fiascos.

In looking for another Costco mattress online, the ONLY mattress that comes seperate (don't need a box as I had built an extra heav duty platform for the foam ones) is the Sealy Posturpedic Roseshore plush king which uses coils for support and various foams for top layers.

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11698954&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|93|1924&N=4018918&Mo=25&No=22&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=67410&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=

 

Has anyone had experience with this Sealy mattress or does anyone have any idea as to where we should go from here? Note: Both side sleepers, both avg height and weight. I have had major spine surgery several years ago.

 

 

 

This message was modified Nov 29, 2011 by robertwhite
Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #7 Dec 1, 2011 9:47 PM
Joined: Jun 2, 2011
Points: 481
Joed wrote:

 

 


So you don't wanna shell out $2499 for the excellent "cloud" mattress? Inspite of what slpgnc said so persuasively? I admire slpgnc deddication to the cloud mattress. he is making sense but damn I wanna get it right the first time.

what will you do then? keep buying from costco and then returen and when you return you have to load that mattress into a truck and drive 2 hours to costco? isn't that a big hassle?

ISN'T IT SHAMEFULLY EMBARSSING THAT usa the greatest civilization ever known to mankind cannot make DECENT QUALITY MATTRESSES FOR ITS CITIZENS?

I MEAN LOOK, IF AMERICA WAS GETTING SLEEP , GOOD QUALITY EXCELLENT SLEEP,

THINK HOW MANY PROBLEMS THAT WOULD SOLVE! The list is endless.

BUT sadly we have greedy capitalists that just want to dupe us, deceive us into buying garbage mattresses that have huge drawbacks and then we have salespeople that lie and lie.....trying their best to deceive us into buying garbage mattresses

We need the government to step in and force these mattress pimps to mend their ways.

AHA MATTRESS PIMPS LOL...

Man I justy wanna get good sleep. is that too much to ask?

Give me a quality mattress at competitive price. Is that too much to ask? Don't sell me junk. is that too much to ask?


Joed, take a breath! 

First off, I really don't think the mattress mfrs are out to screw everyone.  They are trying to make decent quality mattresses that work for most people.  Think of all the cost of manufacturing, materials, storage, labor costs, everything, then shipping, delivering with increasing fuel costs.  It all adds up. 

Most people can get by on your basic innerspring mattress.  My sister and brother in law are very happy on their Simmons Beautyrest.

Some people's bodies are in worse shape and need a more specialized mattress.  Like I said in another post, a mattress cannot do everything for a sleeper.

Look a sleep website - mattress is only one part of the equation.  Regular sleep hours, dark quiet room, no late night eating, reduce stress, no caffiene, good room temperature..... there are many factors to a good night's sleep.  Look at the whole picture.

Don't worry too much about getting it just right the first time, you'll never know how a mattress feels after 7 hours of laying on it by trying it for 20 minutes in a store.

 


 

This message was modified Dec 1, 2011 by slpngoc
Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #8 Dec 2, 2011 12:44 AM
Joined: Aug 16, 2011
Points: 26
Joed wrote:

 

 


Give me a quality mattress at competitive price. Is that too much to ask? Don't sell me junk. is that too much to ask?


And that about sums it up.................

Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #9 Dec 2, 2011 12:46 AM
Joined: Aug 16, 2011
Points: 26
slpngoc wrote:

 

 

If you're insisting on putting the mattress on your platform, don't buy a Tempurpedic. 

 

How's that thick 12" mattress working out for you?  I don't care if a mattress is only a *skinny* 8" thick.  I care about whether it works. I can't speak for your platform.


It's not a warranty policy in first 90 or 100 days, it's a store return policy.  I was handed a sheet that states they allow a return with no restocking fee within 100 day, no questons asked.  I did a return on the $1500 adv. ergo adjustable base.


 

 


 

And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface.

As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam.

So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO

It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)

 

 


 

This message was modified Dec 2, 2011 by robertwhite
Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #10 Dec 2, 2011 2:28 PM
Joined: May 12, 2010
Points: 241
robertwhite wrote:

 

 

And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface.

As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam.

So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO

It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)

 

 


 



Under what name?

Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #11 Dec 2, 2011 3:48 PM
Joined: Oct 19, 2011
Points: 38
Cloud is working out pretty good for slpgnc.

 

The problems I had with cloud when I layed on it was that it was little bit low height for me.

And it did not feel it had lot of tempur foam on it, kind of felt firm.  It has only 2.8 inch of tempur foam in it may that is why it did not feel plush.

Also I am thinking sleeping all night on cloud, the 2.8 inch foam, my body will sink through to the base foam. That will make the mattress unbearable.  

Also it is a one time decision for me and I don't want to go back and forth like robert is doing with Costco.

This message was modified Dec 2, 2011 by Joed
Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #12 Dec 2, 2011 9:53 PM
Joined: Aug 16, 2011
Points: 26
Joed wrote:

The problems I had with cloud when I layed on it was that it was little bit low height for me.

And it did not feel it had lot of tempur foam on it, kind of felt firm.  It has only 2.8 inch of tempur foam in it may that is why it did not feel plush.

Also I am thinking sleeping all night on cloud, the 2.8 inch foam, my body will sink through to the base foam. That will make the mattress unbearable.  

 

 

Also it is a one time decision for me and I don't want to go back and forth like robert is doing with Costco.


Some people think it is just fine. Like yourself, I can't imagine a skinny little piece of foam doing anything for me, especially when its a $2K piece of 8" foam.

 

I returned both of the Sleep Innovation beds at Costco today. Got my money back, no questions asked and no hassle whatsoever. Brought home the Sealy Posturpedic Rossville (plush) and we'll hope for the best.

Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #13 Dec 2, 2011 9:58 PM
Joined: Aug 16, 2011
Points: 26
roy1 wrote:

 



Under what name?


Well, if I remembered that, I would be using it, wouldn't I ? Also changed emails, so I couldn't retrieve the info even if I wanted to.

No need for you to try and take up Slpxxx cause. I'm quite sure he can and hopefully will explain himself.

Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #14 Dec 2, 2011 10:06 PM
Joined: Jun 16, 2011
Points: 171
I hope your pillowtop mattress performs better than mine did. Good luck with it, but if it does fail I guess you know about the mattress surgery threads on this forum. Very interesting and helpful information!
Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #15 Dec 2, 2011 11:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2, 2011
Points: 481
robertwhite wrote:

 

 

 

And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface.

As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam.

So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO

It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)

 

Me, sell mattresses for a living?  Never.

4 mattresses tried, one kept.  First one cost me nothing.  From a local maker, got full refund.  2nd mattress, the Stearns and Foster cost nothing.  Third one, a mistake in policy ended up costing $1300 ouch.  4th mattress the SleepEZ cost a mere $66 to return.  5th one is a keeper.


 

This message was modified Dec 2, 2011 by slpngoc
Re: Two Strikes And.....................
Reply #16 Dec 3, 2011 12:12 AM
Joined: Dec 17, 2009
Points: 850
robertwhite wrote:

 

 

 

And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface.

As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam.

So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO

It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)

 

 

 

 


Saying 2K for an 8" piece of foam is a rip off is totally arbitrary and counterproductive.  Not all foams are made equally.  How much of the 12" thick mattress you had did you even sink into?  An 8" thick natural rubber foam mattress with expensive wool/cotton covers would probably cost 4~6 times as much in materials costs as most 12" thick memory foam mattresses.  Perhaps Tempur-Pedic has a little bit of a premium because of their high advertising expenses...but the product is also denser.  I have compared the weight of 8" thick Tempur mattresses to 11"~12" thick ones made by Sleep Innovations...they weigh about the same...so the height difference is irrelevant, its roughly the same amount of actual material..and when it comes to polyfoams denser ones tend to perform better and are more costly to manufacture.  

Tempur may not be worth the premium 100% if you compare the materials cost...but if the mattress works really well for someone...then when do you say $2500 is too much for a good nights sleep...I totally agree with slpngoc...its whatever functions best for you.  People blow money on worse investments everyday.  You seem to know a lot about watches...would I be remiss to guess that you probably own a watch thats worth about as much as the Costco memory foam mattress you tried?  

This message was modified Dec 3, 2011 by budgy