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This is REALLY starting to become a major pain in the azz (well actually in the back).
After deciding to try out a memory/visco (whatever) King size mattress, we went with the Sleep Innovation NovaForm Gel from Costco due to the return policy. Had it for a few weeks and it was just about as hard as a rock. Called Sleep Innovations and told them the story and was advised that the Nova Gel is their firmest mattress (nice of Costco to not say that in their description, huh?). The lady stated that their Roma Serra is the softest one. OK, so we order the Roma Serra, wait another 3 weeks until it arrives and set it up. Well, that was almost 3 weeks ago and instead of getting better, my back pain has moved from the lower back to the middle back, only 10x worse I can't even lie in on my side without extreme pain. My wife has pretty much the same issue, but slightly better. So now, I am sitting here with 2 mattresses to return (Costco is 2 hours away and haven't had time to return #1 yet), and have pretty much written off foam mattresses, period. I am not willing to take the $2500 Tempurpedic chance at all, especially after these two fiascos. In looking for another Costco mattress online, the ONLY mattress that comes seperate (don't need a box as I had built an extra heav duty platform for the foam ones) is the Sealy Posturpedic Roseshore plush king which uses coils for support and various foams for top layers. http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11698954&whse=BC&Ne=4000000&eCat=BC|93|1924&N=4018918&Mo=25&No=22&Nr=P_CatalogName:BC&cat=67410&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-US&Sp=C&topnav=
Has anyone had experience with this Sealy mattress or does anyone have any idea as to where we should go from here? Note: Both side sleepers, both avg height and weight. I have had major spine surgery several years ago.
This message was modified Nov 29, 2011 by robertwhite
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Joed wrote:
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slpngoc wrote:
If you're insisting on putting the mattress on your platform, don't buy a Tempurpedic.
How's that thick 12" mattress working out for you? I don't care if a mattress is only a *skinny* 8" thick. I care about whether it works. I can't speak for your platform.
And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface. As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam. So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)
This message was modified Dec 2, 2011 by robertwhite
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robertwhite wrote:
And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface. As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam. So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)
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Cloud is working out pretty good for slpgnc.
The problems I had with cloud when I layed on it was that it was little bit low height for me. And it did not feel it had lot of tempur foam on it, kind of felt firm. It has only 2.8 inch of tempur foam in it may that is why it did not feel plush. Also I am thinking sleeping all night on cloud, the 2.8 inch foam, my body will sink through to the base foam. That will make the mattress unbearable. Also it is a one time decision for me and I don't want to go back and forth like robert is doing with Costco. This message was modified Dec 2, 2011 by Joed
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Joed wrote: The problems I had with cloud when I layed on it was that it was little bit low height for me. And it did not feel it had lot of tempur foam on it, kind of felt firm. It has only 2.8 inch of tempur foam in it may that is why it did not feel plush. Also I am thinking sleeping all night on cloud, the 2.8 inch foam, my body will sink through to the base foam. That will make the mattress unbearable.
Also it is a one time decision for me and I don't want to go back and forth like robert is doing with Costco.
I returned both of the Sleep Innovation beds at Costco today. Got my money back, no questions asked and no hassle whatsoever. Brought home the Sealy Posturpedic Rossville (plush) and we'll hope for the best. |
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No need for you to try and take up Slpxxx cause. I'm quite sure he can and hopefully will explain himself. |
| I hope your pillowtop mattress performs better than mine did. Good luck with it, but if it does fail I guess you know about the mattress surgery threads on this forum. Very interesting and helpful information! |
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robertwhite wrote:
And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface. As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam. So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)
Me, sell mattresses for a living? Never. 4 mattresses tried, one kept. First one cost me nothing. From a local maker, got full refund. 2nd mattress, the Stearns and Foster cost nothing. Third one, a mistake in policy ended up costing $1300 ouch. 4th mattress the SleepEZ cost a mere $66 to return. 5th one is a keeper. This message was modified Dec 2, 2011 by slpngoc
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robertwhite wrote:
And why should I not use a platform? Talk to TP and see if they say its OK or not. Oh, that's right, I did and they say it is just fine. In fact, they said a platform is just about the best thing you can do as it is a solid, unflexing surface. As I said, the 12" didn't work, which is why it is going back. I also said, only a fool would put down $2K for an 8" piece of foam. So you returned the base. You have also stated previously that you have gone thru 5 other mattresses in a short time frame before you bought the TP (or at least bought the hype) How much did your trial and error cost you in "S&H" fees? Many hundreds of dollars, huh? How much did my trial and error cost? ZERO It is pretty funny reading your posts. You joined a couple months ago and if memory serves, you are now selling mattresses, no? So, because you recently started selling, that means you know everything? I think not. (and don't go by my join date for your witty comeback, I was here years ago with a different name)
Tempur may not be worth the premium 100% if you compare the materials cost...but if the mattress works really well for someone...then when do you say $2500 is too much for a good nights sleep...I totally agree with slpngoc...its whatever functions best for you. People blow money on worse investments everyday. You seem to know a lot about watches...would I be remiss to guess that you probably own a watch thats worth about as much as the Costco memory foam mattress you tried? This message was modified Dec 3, 2011 by budgy
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budgy wrote: Saying 2K for an 8" piece of foam is a rip off is totally arbitrary and counterproductive. Not all foams are made equally.
Perhaps Tempur-Pedic has a little bit of a premium because of their high advertising expenses...but the product is also denser. I have compared the weight of 8" thick Tempur mattresses to 11"~12" thick ones made by Sleep Innovations...they weigh about the same...so the height difference is irrelevant, its roughly the same amount of actual material..and when it comes to polyfoams denser ones tend to perform better and are more costly to manufacture.
Tempur may not be worth the premium 100% if you compare the materials cost...but if the mattress works really well for someone...then when do you say $2500 is too much for a good nights sleep...I totally agree with slpngoc...its whatever functions best for you.
You seem to know a lot about watches...would I be remiss to guess that you probably own a watch thats worth about as much as the Costco memory foam mattress you tried? Let me reprase the $2K cost factor...... NO companies piece of foam is worth anywhere near $2K, period. Do you really have any doubt that at the $2K price, ($2500 with box spring/foundatio) that TP mattress is at least 600-800% profit? And that is their lowest priced mattress (King). Do you not think that a $5K price tag on their best model is not the biggest rip off in the bedding industry? Seriously, think about it for a minute.
I understand the advertising costs and the heavier/denser foam costs, but again, it is not $2K worth of material and labor, no matter how you slice it.
I agree that whatever works for a person is just fine. But if TP really wanted to "help" their customer base, they would price their beds realistically and sell a whole lot more to boot.
Do I have watches that cost as much as the Costco mattress? Absolutely. In fact several times more, BUT, I can turn around any day of the week and get what I paid for said watches or even more. A high end watch is not only mechanical art, but an investment too. A mattress (at any price) is just like an every day vehicle. Depreciates the second you sign on the dotted line. |