Mattress Forum

I agree and it's why I didn't pursue it. Buying from the factory would have been around $1850 including shipping but it's still expensive for only 7" of Latex (1.5+4+1.5) even with the thick layers of cotton and wool (which are on both sides in the tri-zone mattress).

What I did like about it was the quality of construction.

They are also coming out (maybe already have) with a "nature's caress" line which is a little cheaper but I think has some "eco foam" in it.

I talked to them only about 2 weeks ago and "Jeff" that I talked to didn't say anything about their factory closing and seemed quite willing to ship me a mattress at the time. I wonder where they are making their new line ... or for that matter their current lineup as there are stores online that are still carrying them?

Anyway, there is better value out there IMO.

Phoenix

Phoenix, did you find out any ILD numbers on their layers?  Just curious, thanks!

I was mistaken in my earlier post about Dunlop. The N ratings refer to Latex International natural Talalay firmness ratings.

Their ILD equivalents are N2 = 20-24.99, N3 = 25-30, N4 = 30-34.99, and N5 = 35-41.99  according to Sleeplikeabear http://www.sleeplikeabear.com/page/comparing-latex-international-latex-foams

Phoenix

Angel,

I know the general manager of the factory that Vangard tried to arrange manufactoring through.  And I drove past their factory Monday of last week, the offices are dark and has a for lease sign on it.  And to cap the rest off - the sales manager now works for Southerland bedding.

Gunman

The lady that I talked to said they were still in business and had planned this move for over a year and a half and that they were still manufacturing. The guy that moved to Southerland worked for them over a year ago and his name was also Jeff but not the same Jeff I talked to. She asked me if I wanted to talk with the Jeff I talked to but I didn't have anything more to ask him that I hadn't asked 2 weeks ago.

I told her about this thread and she plans to post here to "set the record straight". She thanked me for telling her about it.

If she does come here then you could ask her any questions about the Vital Rest or Vanguard directly.

Phoenix

i am kathryn branman and i am the owner of the company.  if you have questions you are welcome to email us at info@vanguardmattress.com or telephone us at 714-447-3161.

forums like these can be very helpful and i am sure that's what the moderators want.  rumors (including the erroneous information i am seeing here about our products, the specifications - which we do not disclose - and prices) do not help consumers or genuine seekers of information.  it is always best to consult the manufacturer directly and to listen to retailers who carry the product and consumers who are sleeping on the product.

Also for the record ... the information I posted came directly from my notes regarding the specs and pricing and I wrote those notes during a lengthy conversation with Jeff.

I was impressed with the build of the mattress and told him at the time that I thought that there was better value out there if the "amount of latex" was used as a comparison (I was looking for at least 9" of latex in a mattress) but that I thought this mattress would be of interest to some that were looking for a higher quality and not necessarily more latex.

This was when he told me about the new line that was coming but he didn't have the details at the time.

I think that basic information regarding the build and materials and amount of those materials in a mattress are basic questions that should be asked by every consumer and should be openly answered by every manufacturer. Why would this be a "secret".

Phoenix

I apologize if the price I posted was wrong. The build information I posted was exactly what Jeff told me

It would still be nice if your website included more specific information about your mattresses as other manufacturers do. While I understand not posting prices for the sake of your dealers, the build information in my view is important.

Phoenix