Who is Sleep Science?
Oct 16, 2011 2:57 PM
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After the previous thread of how much we hate our NovaForm Gel mattress (hard as a rock, yet touted as /normalplush), I started looking at other mattresses from Costco.

Sooooo, who is Sleep Science and should they be considered? They have what they are calling a pillowtop (which in a foam mattress seems redundant)

Hybrid Bliss

  • Mattress top layer: 1” of proprietary 5 lb black diamond bamboo charcoal visco memory foam.  
  • Second layer: 1” of proprietary 5 lb slumber tech visco memory foam.
  • Third layer: 2” of medium latex
  • Bottom layer: 7” proprietary support tech base foam.

Or they have a Pillow top Ara:

  • 13” pillow top mattress fits the dimensions of your bed
  • Meets the requirements of 16 CFR Part 1633 - Federal flammability (open flame) standards
  • Limited Warranty: 20 years
  • Cover is bamboo fabric consisting of three layers.  This fabric is 300g/m2, the percentage of bamboo is 40%, nylon is 40%, polyester is 20%.
  • Cover top layer: 100% bamboo fabric
  • Middle layer: 100% nylon
  • Bottom layer: 100% polyester. 
  • Micro-suede cover sides are 100% polyester
  • Mattress core top layer: 3 inches 5-lb visco foam, 11-13 IFD
  • Second layer: 3-5/8 inches 5-lb visco foam, 11-13 IFD
  • Third layer: ½ inch air barrier
  • Fourth Layer: The Wedge Patented Edge Support System
  • Base layer: 6” Air Channel Base, dual density, dual IFD, relief cut urethane core

Thoughts?

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #3 Oct 18, 2011 6:59 PM
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robertwhite wrote:

 


Yes it shows over 6" of memory foam, but isn't a Tempurpedic bed mad of all memory foam?


No.  No mattress is made of all memory foam.  Memory is made for comfort.  Still need another type of foam for core support.

My Cloud is 5.2" of core foam (some type of polyurethane), 1.6" Tempur memory foam and 1.2" extra soft memory foam
 

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #4 Oct 18, 2011 7:24 PM
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Sleep Science is a brand made by South Bay International which is located in Pomona,CA. Go to their website to find more info on them as a business and the products they offer.

I called them today and asked that they email us the specs on their new Hybrid Bliss and the 10" Latex Comfort.

I have spent SO MUCH TIME (LOL!!!) looking for a new mattress it is almost pathetic. I've been all over the gambit from memory foam to latex to build your own and have finally narrowed it down to the two mattresses mentioned above. Probably the main reason is Costco's fabulous return policy.

Concerning the Hybrid Bliss, the woman I spoke with today told me that it just came out into the market - that the first people that had ordered it were just receiving the mattresses now - so that could explain why there are no reviews on it. SS uses Dunlop latex (80% natural / 20% synthetic) and I asked her for the ILD (IFD)  for the '2 inch medium latex' layer. She told me over the phone that is was '15 ILD.' That doesn't sound right. I've checked our email several times today to see if they sent the spec sheets - nothing yet.

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #5 Oct 18, 2011 7:58 PM
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eiderdown wrote:

Sleep Science is a brand made by South Bay International which is located in Pomona,CA. Go to their website to find more info on them as a business and the products they offer.

 

I called them today and asked that they email us the specs on their new Hybrid Bliss and the 10" Latex Comfort.

I have spent SO MUCH TIME (LOL!!!) looking for a new mattress it is almost pathetic. I've been all over the gambit from memory foam to latex to build your own and have finally narrowed it down to the two mattresses mentioned above. Probably the main reason is Costco's fabulous return policy.

Concerning the Hybrid Bliss, the woman I spoke with today told me that it just came out into the market - that the first people that had ordered it were just receiving the mattresses now - so that could explain why there are no reviews on it. SS uses Dunlop latex (80% natural / 20% synthetic) and I asked her for the ILD (IFD)  for the '2 inch medium latex' layer. She told me over the phone that is was '15 ILD.' That doesn't sound right. I've checked our email several times today to see if they sent the spec sheets - nothing yet.


Please post when they send the specs.

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #6 Oct 19, 2011 1:40 PM
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Is it a soft or medium or firm feeling mattress?
Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #7 Oct 19, 2011 9:27 PM
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Robertwhite,

As for Sleep Science and the requested spec sheets -they emailed the cut-a-way mattress images that accompany each mattress on Costco's website. Unfortunately, no additional questions are then answered. I know I am not the only person asking for specific densities/ILD's etc...so right now I am a little soured on Sleep Science.

Wish I had more info to offer the forum....

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #8 Oct 19, 2011 9:56 PM
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Points: 26
eiderdown wrote:

Robertwhite,

 

As for Sleep Science and the requested spec sheets -they emailed the cut-a-way mattress images that accompany each mattress on Costco's website. Unfortunately, no additional questions are then answered. I know I am not the only person asking for specific densities/ILD's etc...so right now I am a little soured on Sleep Science.

Wish I had more info to offer the forum....


Very interesting. Says a lot about the kind of customer service you can expect if needed after purchase.

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #9 Oct 19, 2011 10:52 PM
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Points: 966
I think the quality of the Sleep Science memory foam is pretty good, based on my experience.  I used a 2" memory foam topper for many years (bought at Costco), that I liked.  I also tried one of their mattress that had 2" 5lb. memory foam over 2" latex over PU foam.  The memory foam had a nice feel, but overall the mattress was too firm, so I returned it.  Not sure if they have changed the quality of the memory foam since I tried it. 

They were pretty good about delivery, etc.  I think there have been complaints about their foundation, so I would probably avoid that.

 

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #10 Nov 3, 2011 10:30 AM
Joined: Jun 8, 2011
Points: 100
Hi Sandman,

I had a few questions about your experience with Sleep Science hybrid if you have a moment.

LONG story short, we took a chance on the Sealy Embody Introspection a few months ago b/c my husband doesn't like the feel of traditional Tempurpedic memory foam. He likes it with a quicker recovery time- less deep slow sinking, slightly bouncier. Which the Introspection was. We LOVED it for about 8-10 weeks. But, now it's already softening and sinking a TON and the past several nights we're both having back pain again. We've tried 100% latex which I loved on paper, but in real life, just never worked out for us.

I was researching the Tempurpedic Bellafina when I realized it was memory foam over latex over core b/c that helps give you the cush of memory foam, but a little more bounce back that other Tempurpedic models. Of course, the king set is like $3,400. Not out of the question, but steep.

When we were looking a few months back, Sleep Science no longer had a memory foam / latex hybrid available, but I see it's back now on Costco!

I just wondered how the one you had felt. You mentioned it was pretty firm? I think that's good for us b/c I am a stomach sleeper. I need a little cush, but mostly firm. I wondered if this bed had a quicker recovery time than other memory foam since it was sitting on the latex? If it felt supportive?

Most importantly, I wondered how your Sleep Science 5lb memory foam beds or toppers have keep their support? Seems like this Introspection has just turned to mush in the last few months. It started out wonderful and now just doesnt have the same support at all, which is causing back pain. I'm hoping to find one that will keep it's support and firmness for a few years!!! No sinking and sagging!

I'm thinking this Sleep Science hybrid might be a nice combo of memory foam and latex for us, the price is good at $1,149 kind mattress (would get the foundation elsewhere), and it's returnable forever on Costco if it didn't hold up.

Would love any additional thoughts you might have on Sleep Science-- either the hybrid, their 5lb memory foam quality, or both! smiley

 

MANY THANKS!

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #11 Nov 3, 2011 10:35 AM
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Points: 100
Robertwhite-

Just checking in to see if you'd made a decision or a purchase? Did you wind up going with the Sleep Science hybrid? If you did- I'd love to hear what you think!

Re: Who is Sleep Science?
Reply #12 Nov 3, 2011 12:56 PM
Joined: Oct 15, 2009
Points: 966
Dallasgirl wrote:

Hi Sandman,

 

I had a few questions about your experience with Sleep Science hybrid if you have a moment.

LONG story short, we took a chance on the Sealy Embody Introspection a few months ago b/c my husband doesn't like the feel of traditional Tempurpedic memory foam. He likes it with a quicker recovery time- less deep slow sinking, slightly bouncier. Which the Introspection was. We LOVED it for about 8-10 weeks. But, now it's already softening and sinking a TON and the past several nights we're both having back pain again. We've tried 100% latex which I loved on paper, but in real life, just never worked out for us.

I was researching the Tempurpedic Bellafina when I realized it was memory foam over latex over core b/c that helps give you the cush of memory foam, but a little more bounce back that other Tempurpedic models. Of course, the king set is like $3,400. Not out of the question, but steep.

When we were looking a few months back, Sleep Science no longer had a memory foam / latex hybrid available, but I see it's back now on Costco!

I just wondered how the one you had felt. You mentioned it was pretty firm? I think that's good for us b/c I am a stomach sleeper. I need a little cush, but mostly firm. I wondered if this bed had a quicker recovery time than other memory foam since it was sitting on the latex? If it felt supportive?

Most importantly, I wondered how your Sleep Science 5lb memory foam beds or toppers have keep their support? Seems like this Introspection has just turned to mush in the last few months. It started out wonderful and now just doesnt have the same support at all, which is causing back pain. I'm hoping to find one that will keep it's support and firmness for a few years!!! No sinking and sagging!

I'm thinking this Sleep Science hybrid might be a nice combo of memory foam and latex for us, the price is good at $1,149 kind mattress (would get the foundation elsewhere), and it's returnable forever on Costco if it didn't hold up.

Would love any additional thoughts you might have on Sleep Science-- either the hybrid, their 5lb memory foam quality, or both! smiley

 

MANY THANKS!


The hybrid one I tried was the 14" Celeste.  I found some reviews for the queen and king.    Note that a couple also say it was pretty firm.  The Celeste had a 10" base, 2" of medium latex and 2" of 5lb. memory foam.  So, pretty similiar to the hybrid one they have now, but not sure if they have changed the firmness of any of the foams.  I think they latex layer was dunlop, and probably too firm for my taste.  If they would have had 3" of a bit softer talalay latex, it might of worked for me.   I also didn't like the fact that it was 14".   Having the 10" base seemed unecessary to me, and would have made it too tall if toppers were added.   Still, I did like the plush feel of the memory foam from what little I used it, but the layers below did not seem to give enough.  It probably would have softened over time, but maybe not enough.  It felt supportive, because once you sunk in a bit, you definitely had some pushback from the latex layer.  The one nice thing about having some latex is that it gives it a little more springiness, as opposed to a dead feel of pure PU foam.

I checked the cover again of the old memory foam topper I have, and it says Sleep Innovations, not Sleep Science.  So, probably not the same.  That seemed to hold up well for many years.   Note that you don't really get a lot of support from memory foam.  You sink in most of the way, and it molds to the body.   So, that is what makes it feel nice, but too much can cause back issues.   You don't sink in quite as much in the more dense ones, so that is why they provide a bit more support.   Over time the cells do break down, and you get less support.   So, I tend to stick with 1-2" of memory foam and latex or springs for the rest.

If you want a fairly firm mattress with some plushness on top, the hybrid might be a good solution.  You can't beat the Costco return policy.  They delivered and picked up on schedule, and it did not cost me a cent.

 

 

 


 

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