Zoning ideas
Feb 7, 2010 5:50 PM
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23" S for head and shoulder
28"  33ILD for rib cage/lumbar & hips
28"  F for knees and feet

This is 79" for queensize (if I added right).

I am trying to make this simple for me to figure out (math challenged).  But also why can't the rib cage/lumbar and hips have the same ILD.  Your rib cage won't sink, but the hips will.  As for the knees and feet, who cares?  Those are so light this can be firm.  Right?

Just trying to keep it simple.  Also I am a side sleeping and the knees and feet are using the middle area anyway.  There is the problem the legs sink in for me. UGH.
This message was modified Feb 7, 2010 by Leo3
Re: Zoning ideas
Reply #7 Feb 9, 2010 1:14 PM
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Leo, I thought you already had 2 1.5" (3" total) pieces of pretty firm latex base from overstock (32 ILD?)  I think I would just leave that  from the ribs on down to the feet.  First try just replacing the shoulder (and head if you want just one piece) with something softer, 20-24 (start with just  one1.5" layer ).   You probably still will want at least 1" softer layer over the whole mattress.  So, you would have 1.5" of 20-24 for 23" from top of bed through the shoulders.  32 from ribs down through feet (57" if queen size).  That will give good support for hips and rest of body, but softer in the shoulders.

Unless you are wanting softer in the hips too?  Still not totally sure.

Re: Zoning ideas
Reply #8 Feb 9, 2010 2:39 PM
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Yes, I have 3" latex; I don't want to cut those they are probably 33ILDish.  I have some cut pieces when I tried zoning before with my 1/2 of the twin latex cut in half.  Those are truly firm, I would say 44 ILD.  So I will have to order 33ILD cut pieces if I want to try again.  Then I will have to order 18ILD for the shoulders.  This way I have most of what I need except 2 pieces that I will order 30" wide so I don't waste so much money ;-) if it doesn't work out.

But then I will end up with 3 layers of 1 1/2", which is 4 1/2", then I would either put the 1" Brylane over that, or put the cut pieces under one of the 1 1/2" layers.  Then it might not be too thick with 4 1/2" rather than 5 1/2" thick.  Though I may still order 44ILD in the talalay blended (small piece) just to see how it is.  As I said I really don't know what the O-stock latex ILD is.  I wonder if foamonline cuts samples.  I really want to see what the higher level blended talalay is like.  I only have 32ILD blended talalay sample, and that still seems soft to me.

Guess you didn't get your cut pieces yet Sandman?
Re: Zoning ideas
Reply #9 Feb 9, 2010 3:12 PM
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No, I haven't received them yet.  I think they are fairly slow on custom jobs like this.  I believe they said it would  ship in 7-10 business days.

You could always remove one of your 1.5" layers when you put in the zone, especially if they are as firm as you say. 

If you cut one of the 1.5" pieces, you can still put them back together under another layer, if you decide you want to use it like one piece again.  The latex pieces seem to hold together pretty well due to the friction.  Obviously would not be able to sell or return after cutting.

This message was modified Feb 9, 2010 by sandman
Re: Zoning ideas
Reply #10 Feb 9, 2010 4:19 PM
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sandman wrote:
No, I haven't received them yet.  I think they are fairly slow on custom jobs like this.  I believe they said it would  ship in 7-10 business days.

You could always remove one of your 1.5" layers when you put in the zone, especially if they are as firm as you say. 

If you cut one of the 1.5" pieces, you can still put them back together under another layer, if you decide you want to use it like one piece again.  The latex pieces seem to hold together pretty well due to the friction.  Obviously would not be able to sell or return after cutting.


I concur that cutting latex and just sitting the individual zoned pieces on the mattress next to each other, it does not shift more than 1/8 and usually not at all. I believe this not to be a problem. When I was doing zoning I had about 12 pieces all the same size x 1" thick of various ILD's, then I could mix and match them in various ways. I just set them next to each other on the mattress and they never shifted. I wrote what they were right on them, with a permanent marker.

As to my wanting to try the 14ILD latex, Sandman: I am completely happy with my current mattress and am not making ANY changes at all. I've never been happier with a mattress since I first came to this forum about 7 or 8 years ago! (Don't believe the date it gives here on when I first joined.) But I guess you could say that necessity is the mother of invention and I came here out of necessity to learn how to buy a good mattress, and that led to my learning DIY mattress techniques, and I've been at this game for so long that it has become somewhat of a "hobby" for me! Now I don't need any more latex and could just leave the forum and go about my business but I find this stuff interesting. So the only reason I would like to try this or that, is "just to see" how it feels. But no, I don't plan to change my mattress at all unless it stops feeling good like it does now! If I were to buy anything new it would be to fix my wife's mattress if and when she needs it, or "just for fun" if I had more money and wanted to try something just for the heck of it.

One reason I like this forum so much, I realize, too, is that people here almost never fight and it's all about mattresses, no other topics are allowed, so it's kind of relaxing for me to come here and not be part of the in-fighting and politics and other stuff that goes on in most other forums. This is just a nice place to visit with nice people! (Admittedly I should move on and do something more productive with my time. And in the past I have disappeared for months or years only to come back when I began to have a mattress issue... which is to be expected, I think. So don't be surprised if I disappear again...)
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