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There was an earlier post on this board suggesting that Rockymountain doesn't sell a full mattress, but it seems that they do: http://www.rockymountainmattress.com/8inchnaturallatexmattress-p-89.html ... and it seems relatively inexpensive at ~$1299 for a queen 8" latex + 1" wool. That noted, is there any concern about this mattress? It seems that Rockymountain has been suggested on this board for their latex toppers, but I haven't heard word about the full mattress. Thanks in advance! This message was modified Feb 5, 2010 by chaosamoeba
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| Well, they are a BBB accredited site with an "A" grade. I can only assume they sell good stuff. |
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| Be careful with only 8 inches of latex if you are 200 lbs or over. Sometimes a heavier person will "bottom out" on a thinner latex mattress. I found that I needed at least 10 inches of latex with a "firm" or "extra firm" base layer. Just another thing to keep in mind with this confusing process. |
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It is not totally clear if 8" will be enough. It could be, depending on your weight. A lot of people seem to go with around 9-10". I bought 2 toppers from Rockymountainmattress and they seemed like good quality Latex International latex. I am not 100% convinced that they are 100% natural latex, since they seem pretty similiar to the blended latex I tried. I am trying to confirm that they are 100% natural, but in the end I may have to take their word on it. I no longer have a piece of blended to compare side by side, so that makes it more difficult. Eagle, if you read this, was there something distinctive that allowed you to tell 100% natural from the blended latex? Was the color the same? I know the smell might be slighly different. |
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Eagle and Sandman: Did you determine how to tell natural latex from blended latex by smell or touch or appearance? I am still trying to see if my O-stock if natural latex, and so is Sandman on his Rocky Mountain latex. By the way Sandman, when I looked at RM website they had only natural dunlop and blended talalay. Unless I missed it they didn't have what you ordered natural talalay. Sandman: Did you call RM and Foam Online? Because I can't find on either website the manufacturer of the latex. You said they both were Latex International, but I can't find it referenced on their website. Thanks. This message was modified Feb 7, 2010 by Leo3
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Natural latex is heaver than blended. I also did not detect any chemical smell with the natural latex, all-natural just had a very sweet cookie dough odor to it that I liked very much! The blended Latex International did have some natural sweet latex smell since there is 30% of the composition that is natural, but you could also detect a slight chemical smell compared to the all natural latex. Blended latex is not as dense as all natural. Therefore the weight difference. I don't recall the actual pound difference but it can be found in my thread, "Just bought a FloBeds". Also the firm piece of blended, due to its less dense configuration, felt more like a medium piece of all natural. I do not think there is anything wrong with blended latex from Latex International, however you just need to be aware of the differences mentioned, IE the density factor. If I were buying blended latex and I needed a medium piece of all natural, I would purchase a firm piece of blended. At the end of the day, I just preferred all natural latex. It's always about individual choice and what works for you. |
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According to the Rocymountainmattress website their talalay toppers are 100% natural. I take that to mean that it is not the blended. On the Sleepez website, they say some places misleadingly call the blend 100% natural (counting the sythentic petroleum based as coming for a "natural" source). To me it seems very similiar to the blended and the density seems about the same (I might have been calculating with different ILD pieces though). The smell does seem less chemical, but I am not sure if that is in my mind. Since I know longer have a piece of the blended, I can't compare side by side. So, at this point I am not sure. There we no labels, so unless there is a distinct difference, it is hard to know for sure. I sent an email to Rockymountain and Latex International on Friday, to try and clarify. I have not had any response over the weekend. The blended is a good product, but I did want to try the 100% natural. I don't want to cast dispersions on rockymountain, but it would be nice to know for sure. If it is a blend, I would want them to clarify that on their website. They told me it made by Latex International, and based on the quality I would tend to agree with that. I am not sure if I will ever know for sure. Eagle or someone else, if you could measure and weight a 32 ILD piece 0f 100% natural talalay, that might help clarify the density. |
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Thanks Eagle and Sandman. Can't you tell by just looking at the sides of the latex? I could see the LI blended looked "whipped" air for lack of better definition. I could see the difference on my pieces, so I think some of the O-stock are either Dunlop or natural latex. Unless of course the firmer pieces whip less air in them. Too bad there are no labels on the RM latex. But the latex does look flawless. |
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| Rocky Mountain Mattress uses All Natural Dunlop latex manufactured by LatexGreen. The All Natural Talalay Latex comes from Latex International. |
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I was at a factory today that makes "Englander" mattresses and got a chance to check out their all latex mattress in the wholesale showroom. It also appears to be all natural dunlop from Latex Green. He said their supplier is in "Shri Lanka". (?) The mattress looked to be about 8 inches thick also and quite firm when I sat on it briefly. No other details available as I had to leave (work visit). Perhaps the 8 inches is sufficient in dunlop latex. This message was modified Feb 8, 2010 by markbnh1
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RMMattress wrote: Rocky Mountain Mattress uses All Natural Dunlop latex manufactured by LatexGreen. The All Natural Talalay Latex comes from Latex International. So the all natural latex from LI is not a blend, right, it's 100% natural from the rubber tree? |
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markbnh1 wrote: I was at a factory today that makes "Englander" mattresses and got a chance to check out their all latex mattress in the wholesale showroom. It also appears to be all natural dunlop from Latex Green. He said their supplier is in "Shri Lanka". (?) The mattress looked to be about 8 inches thick also and quite firm when I sat on it briefly. No other details available as I had to leave (work visit). Perhaps the 8 inches is sufficient in dunlop latex. Yes, Sri Lanka is where the Dunlop processed latex from Latex Green comes from; or so I've been told. Is that just an 8" core, with nothing else on top of it? or what? I would think that 8" of Dunlop would kill me if it's anything like the 1 and 3/4" piece of Medium I got from SleepEZ which I do believe they said was Latex Green. This might work for some - surely it would; but for me, that thing was WAAAAAYYY to firm and had no give to it like the similar Talalay piece I bought. I would think that it would HAVE to have 1-2" of a very low ild Dunlop (if not Talalay) on top of it in order for it not to be way too firm for most people. I did look at an Englander all -latex mattress years ago, though, and was quite impressed. The only reason we did not buy it was they offered zero sleep trial. If they'd have offered at least 30 days to try it, I'd have bought it. But they said they couldn't because whatever gets returned they give to some Goodwill or somewhere... So they quit offering a return/exchange. Now of course, I am sleeping on Englander springs, which seem very good, with my own latex added on top of them. |
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RMMattress wrote: Rocky Mountain Mattress uses All Natural Dunlop latex manufactured by LatexGreen. The All Natural Talalay Latex comes from Latex International. Do you own or work for Rocky Mountain Mattress? Or just someone who knows? Is is not the blended talalay latex then? Is it the natural talalay? |
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| Jim, they had 2 models on the floor. One appeared to be the solid core of about 8 inches...but who knows, since it was sealed. Maybe there was a slightly softer layer on top under the cover. This unit was very firm! The other mattress had a similar base but also about a 1.5 inch "pillow top" of a softer material.....I assume latex. This whole mattress was much softer than the other model. Sorry I don't have more info but I was not there shopping for a matress. |