Mattress Forum

 Many of these types of foam will get body impressions over time.  It bothers some people, and others it might not. 

I am not aware of them updating the model recently (but don't follow it that closely).  I think that whole estate line is pretty new, but they might be able to tell you the manufacture date it you ask.

I considered buying this mattress (the Macy's version) last year, but got scared off for the same reasons - worried that the foam would not last.

p.s.  You can look at the models on the S&F website They list traditional, limited edition silver, limited edition golden.  The last 2 mention natural latex.  The traditional does not and I suspect that is your model.

and another one here http://www.gotomattress.com/p-299-stearns-foster-kimberley-luxury-firm-tight-top-mattress-queen.aspx

The Russell Square is also called the Kimberly in other places but it's the same.

VRT is usually a fancy word for zoning of some type.

The memory foam is hidden way inside the mattress where it can't possible have enough heat reach it to do what memory foam does.

There's no latex in this model but the higher models have a whole .79" of smart latex ... wow (laughing)

There's a LOT of polyfoam here which is usually what leads to the body impression issues that people talk about. YMMV

Stearns and foster is known for having good coils in their bed which is a plus.

I would search for "russell square luxury firm" and "kimberly luxury firm" to confirm that you paid what it was really worth

I'm guessing it probably feels great to you (obviously why you bought it) but I would be a little suspicious how you may feel in a year or two or three.

Phoenix

Not sure if they slipped any PU foam in there, but knowing the S brands I cannot rule it out.  I hate when they don't give the exact composition of what is inside.  Generally that means they have something to hide.

Starts at $4000 for a queen, but not sure if that is suggested retail price which will get heavily discounted.

Features:
2.5" Foam Encased Edge System
1" Marvelux Base Insulator
LTD Boxspring

Comfort Layers:
2" HD SuperSoft Foam
Versare
White Cashmere / Wool
3" Natural Latex
Horse Hair

Quilt Panel:
FR Rayon
New Zeland Joma Wool
Cashmere Silk and Merino Wool Fabric
1" HyperSoft Fiber

I've seen it in passing before but didn't look at it in too much detail. It only came out late last year. Did a quick search to see if I could get some quick information on it to confirm what I would think of a similar mattress (similar specs).

Here's a chart which shows how long this particular retailer expects various mattresses to last. While it is way off the mark in many cases including the listing for the Golden Elegance (IMO) it does at least give a sense of relativity. The Golden Elegance is listed at 25 years and longer than any other http://www.us-mattress.com/durability.html

Interesting that they only put a 10 year guarantee on this even though I know mattress guarantees are one of the biggest scams out there and used for marketing purposes only. Maybe they didn't need a longer guarantee to "market" this one.

There are comments from so called "experts" that this is a high maintenance mattress which has to be rotated on schedule to prevent body impressions (see themattressexpert for example). It's also one sided which I think for a mattress of this price and makeup is really a shame. At this price and with these materials I wouldn't really look at anything except a 2 sided mattress unless it was all or almost all latex.

Some good and great quality materials in it (a bit of latex ... horsehair), some not so good. Horsehair is very expensive but a very good material. Hastens uses a lot of it as do many other high end manufacturers. You are paying a lot for stuff that wouldn't affect your sleep but the workmanship seems to be very good.

I would suspect that depending on useage and maintenance, it would also develop the sag and impressions problems of other mattresses. Online reports seems to confirm this.

Cheapest price I've seen in a King if you don't mind a few "scuff marks" lol http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180571408108&ih=008&category=20479&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1

Overall, I certainly wouldn't buy this. For this price you could get so much better ... again IMO.

Phoenix

I'm not sure how long these would last but if they were well made I don't see why they wouldn't be relatively durable.

They are also not as expensive as I would have thought on first impression. Springs are cheap these days. Even innersprings are ridiculously cheap for the mattress manufacturers to buy (I read somewhere that they were only about 10 or 20 dollars in the quantities that they are purchased by the bigger mattress manufacturers). Don't know if this is exactly true but I do know that the cost of the materials that goes into a mattress is not nearly as much as most people think (including me before I started this research).

Phoenix

I agree...and spec sheets are one thing...where is a cut-a-way to show you how it is all layered...and also how much cashmere and horsehair exactly are they using?  In my experiences as a dealer of S brand product for almost 10 years when they claim there is even regular sheeps wool in a mattress it usually means less than a handful, blended with polyester.
 

At Sleepy's the latex bliss is the closest you will come to sleeping on latex and they are a really good testing ground since you are laying directly on latex. I looked for specs on the Dr Breus before and couldn't find any but I would be almost certain that you would not be laying on latex without poly somewhere too close to you. Unless they can show you a cutaway that confirms what is in it I wouldn't even consider it because even if you liked it you wouldn't know what you were laying on.

Here are some "search engines" where you can get a list of mattress outlets and manufacturers near you. I would phone the ones you think are appropriate and ask them "do you make a latex mattress with less than 1" of poly in the comfort layers?". If the answer is no ... don't bother. Of course they don't cover them all so you may know of some that don't show up here.

http://localdirectory.nydailynews.com/search.pg?q=mattress%20manufacturers&z=Brooklyn%2C%20NY

A few that may be near you that I would think have (or make) all (or mostly) latex mattresses are these but I would think there are many more near you in the search listings.

http://www.mycustombedding.com/about-us/info_1.html

http://scottjordan.com/category/mattress_choice/ (they also have mattresses with microsprings in the upper layers which may be interesing to try)

http://www.comfortbeddinginc.com/about.asp

I haven't talked to any of these so I can't vouch for them but they would probably be worth a call along with any others that look promising from the search engines. I would try to stick with "non mass sales" outlets or smaller manufacturers who are more likely to have more in the way of "non polyfoam" and "non S brand" mattress options.

Phoenix