should i buy a simmons world class plush firm matress?
Sep 8, 2008 7:51 PM
Joined: Sep 8, 2008
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i would like lower back support but like the feeling of a little bit of cushion. after laying on several i like the simmons world class plush firm model . it was priced at 1100. this is about as much as i am ready to spend. is this a good brand to be looking at. my biggest fear is the bed starting to hammick or have lumps as others have said that this matress is prone to. help..........
This message was modified Sep 8, 2008 by ztnals
Re: should i buy a simmons world class plush firm matress?
Reply #1 Sep 10, 2008 6:06 PM
Joined: Sep 6, 2008
Points: 87
Consider a mattress without the pillow top, and put your own in it to extend the life of the mattress before it hammocks.

I have made recommendations about IKEA products on other posts and they have a sale on spring beds right now until Sept 14th. Many of their mattresses are approved by Canadian Physiotherapy Association for quality, firmness and price.
Re: should i buy a simmons world class plush firm matress?
Reply #2 Sep 10, 2008 10:53 PM
Location: Cypress, TX
Joined: Aug 28, 2008
Points: 41
I think if you buy any of the S-brands you can expect to have some pretty uncomfortable hammocking by 5 years, if its a king size mattress, you are within your average weight height ratio, and its not a pillowtop.  The smaller mattress sizes seem like they hold up better.  Pillowtops go bad real fast -- I've never owned own but this is what I always hear from friends, family, and this forum.  My advice for buying an innerspring is to buy a firm mattress for as little cost as possible, then plush it up with "aftermarket" items like toppers, pads, or the famous CuddleBed.  This is more or less what I have learned from this forum.
Re: should i buy a simmons world class plush firm matress?
Reply #3 Sep 11, 2008 1:58 AM
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BUT, try to find a mattress that feels mostly comfortable to you WITHOUT the need of toppers or cushy pads. Sure, you can always supplement an already fairly comfy mattress with a little more softness. But if it's TOO firm underneath, you'll still bottom out and feel that hard surface against your hips, back and shoulders. So, my advice is to start out with a comfortable mattress and go from there. That's what I did. And, even then I find myself changing my toppers now and then depending on how my body feels. I think I have it down now, though!

When I went to try out a McRoskey mattress, that's what the gentleman there told me. He said I shouldn't rely on toppers and featherbeds to make the mattress feel perfect if it doesn't feel good on its own. Excellent advice.




LatencyMachine wrote:
I think if you buy any of the S-brands you can expect to have some pretty uncomfortable hammocking by 5 years, if its a king size mattress, you are within your average weight height ratio, and its not a pillowtop.  The smaller mattress sizes seem like they hold up better.  Pillowtops go bad real fast -- I've never owned own but this is what I always hear from friends, family, and this forum.  My advice for buying an innerspring is to buy a firm mattress for as little cost as possible, then plush it up with "aftermarket" items like toppers, pads, or the famous CuddleBed.  This is more or less what I have learned from this forum.
Re: should i buy a simmons world class plush firm matress?
Reply #4 Sep 11, 2008 3:17 PM
Location: Yosemite area
Joined: Sep 10, 2008
Points: 249
I have been in the bed buying/replacing cycle for quite awhile now.  My main problem is low back pain when I awake.  I finally have cut open my Stress-O-Pedic bed and changed the insides.  I have come to the conclusion that the most important thing to consider is the part of the mattress that supports you...the springs.(YES I have had a latex mattress which did sag after a few years, and I also had a Select Comfort which the kids now own, both don't work for me).  This mattress has a Marshall unit, individually wrapped coils of a 14.5 gauge wire, seems to be 3-5 turns each.  This is the part of the bed that is letting my back down.
What seems to happen is that unless there is pressure pushing up from underneath you, the body sinks and just lays there.  As my butt is the heaviest part of me(and I'm 5'6" and weigh 120#), it sinks furthest and causes my low back below my waist to try to hold it up from sinking deeper.  I wake strained and sore. 
I just love the new ads about sleeping a "Good Six".  At six hours, my back doesn't hurt.  At eight, it does.  Those last two hours or so are a killer!!!
I'm busy trying to figure out how to get the perfect bed for me(and my husband...who isn't as picky as me as he is built like a torpedo...no concentrated weight any one place).  I really do not want to go buy another bed just to have it fail yet again.
I do not believe in the large mattress companies, I think they try to do things as cheaply as possible, and the foam they use is likely cheaper quality from China.  I want to use US and quality  components in my bed.
I have a mattress maker fairly close by who has re-done my bed several times.  He doesn't listen to me as well as I'd like, but at least I can get the bed closed up again.  He suggests replacing the Marshall unit with a Bonnell coil unit that he uses.  I almost did that until I read more about Bonnell...not the superior product he touts.  Sigh.
Kait