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I'v been researching latex mattresses wanting to get away for regular coil one. A bit of history, we currently have Queen Simmons Burdock plush mattress, which is a bit on a firm side. There is nothing wrong with it and we've been getting a good sleep on it for years, but latex mattresses advantages have attracted me almost instantly. I've searched many sites for best deals and stumbled upon Sleep EZ where I ordered initially natural Dunlop 6" special, but quickly changed it Talalay blend Sleep EZ 8500 model. When the sales guy called I asked him what's recommended firmness and he gave me the same suggestion as to everyone else XF, F, S, but I decided to go with Medium for top layer). I am 175 pounds 5'9" and my wife is 125 pound 5'5" (she is also 20 weeks pregnant). We are both side sleepers. Last night was our first experience with latex. When I initially laid on it, it felt the same firmness as our regular coil mattress, although my wife said it felt a bit softer. I fall asleep fairly quickly, although I woke up middle of the night feeling hot and my arm getting a bit numb. We have micathermic heater about 3 feet from the mattress that's set to keep 69 degree temperature at night and apparently it warmed the mattress. I turned the heater off, opened window and went online to search about temperature dissipation of the latex and only found positive results. About 30 minutes of letting mattress to cool down down a bit and I was able to fall asleep just fine. The rest of the night I slept fine and woke up only at the sound of the alarm, but the problem was I felt sore in my neck and back and my wife also experienced sore back. That rarely happens even sleeping in cheap coil mattresses in hotels. I am a bit disappointed, but hoping that there is a solution to this. So, my question here Is there a "getting used" period with latex? I am also considering removing medium layer and getting 2" Wool topper, in order to get a bit more firmness, but slight plush at the top. This message was modified Jan 31, 2011 by klas
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| While I don't have any direct experience with this specific bed, my first reaction is that your bed might be a little too "hard" and you should consider a soft layer for the top and a medium layer for the second layer with firm or something else on the bottom.....staying away from the XF unless you were much heavier. I have latex mattresses and toppers and generally, it seems like the recommendations from sleepez that others get is S/M/F, top to bottom. I know from using a sleepez topper that M on top would be too hard. I'm sure others will weigh in later but that is my gut reaction to your situation. I think you made a wise choice to stay away from the Dunlop too. You may be only a swap or two away from being in the right spot so don't give up yet. I don't think I would try a 2 inch wool topper. If your arm is getting numb it sounds too hard, and going firmer would seem to make that worse. Also, with a bed change, your pillow loft may affect your neck angle causing pain so maybe you are sinking in more or less than you did on your last bed. |
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I would consider talking to Sleepeze and consider swapping for a soft top layer. Are your shoulders and hips sinking in? Also a pillow will help with more loft. I have latex pillows. I find the king size is thicker and better suited for my needs. Good luck. This message was modified Dec 24, 2010 by Leo3
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The Beautyrest you have which seems "pretty good" is likely very firm in the coils and then has a thicker softer layer on top of very firm to make it "plush". This would allow you to "sink in" enough to take off the pressure but then stop the "sinking down" with firmer coils to keep you in alignment. With the 8500 ... you only have 1.5" of soft latex over a firm and extra firm layer. This top layer is probably not thick enough and you are likely experiencing pressure problems (not enough softness on top for side sleeping and going through to the firm layer) and alignment problems (incorrect alignment because the firm layer underneath may not be allowing you to sink in enough). If you are using the same pillow as you were, then this could be aggravated because your shoulders would be higher with the sleepez (not sinking in enough) and then your head and neck could be crooked as well. As Sal mentioned, a thick wool layer could make this worse as wool will allow you to sink in even less to the 1.5" layer on top as it compresses. It seems to me that your top soft layer is not thick enough (generally 1.5" of soft is not enough for side sleeping). You could fix this in two ways. Either using a medium layer which would act like a little thicker soft upper layer (the top part of the medium layer would be soft) but the danger here is that a medium layer may not be "supportive" enough. This is what is usually called "progressive layering". The second solution would be to add a soft topper (1-2") to the mattress and have a thicker layer of soft on top of firm (similar to your beautyrest). This is what could be called a "differential" approach and provides softness on top for side sleeping but keeps the hips in alignment as the firmer second layer stops the "sinking down" which can cause alignment issues. This could also be helpful as your wife becomes "bigger" in the middle. In effect you would be changing your 8500 into a 10000. I am thinking that the Sleepez 10000 may have been a better choice as it has a full 3" upper layer rather than only 1.5". 1.5" over firm is really not enough for side sleeping for most people. While there can certainly be an adjustment period with any new mattress ... particularly latex as it may "push back" in parts that were previously "unsupported" ... I don't think this is what is happening here. Perhaps Shawn would allow you to exchange the 8500 for the 10000 (return the 1.5" layer and have him send you a 3" layer and a new matress cover to accomodate the thicker latex layers) as this may be less expensive than buying a new topper. The 8500 also has a wool layer already and adding another thick one would give you two wool layers on top of the latex which may be "problematic". Wool does not form a "cradle" as it is not as resilient or "point elastic" as foam. If you do use a wool layer on top of a mattress that already has one, I would make it as thin and flexible as possible (the dormier would be a good choice here) and I would probably tend towards a thin flexible cotton mattress pad without any wool at all. Phoenix This message was modified Dec 24, 2010 by Phoenix
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Thank you all for excellent suggestions! I am definetely not sinking in when I am on the side, it feels firm, but does not seem much different than our coil mattress. What we are trying tonight is to put Firm on top with medium in the middle and XF on the bottom. If that will be worse tomorrow then maybe we are onto something. With your suggestions I am strongly considering changing to 10000. Although, I am probably going to try to get 1.5" layer of soft as Phoenix suggested to try out. (3 XF - 3 F - 1.5 M - 1.5 S) This message was modified Dec 24, 2010 by klas
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In a 2 words ... probably not. If you read the ingredients at the bottom of the features you will see 98% poly 2% latex. Not bad for a "latex" topper lol Phoenix This message was modified Dec 24, 2010 by Phoenix
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| Yeah... just found discussion on it. It's a no go. I am just looking for alternatives to get topper locally first. |
| Ok, so would guys suggest to try out 1.5 soft + 1.5 medium or just get 3 soft? Is there a big difference between soft and medium? |
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Soft and medium certainly have a different feel (depending on what different people call "soft" and "medium") but how different depends on perception as well. Different people with different weights, weight distribution, and sensitivities/perceptions actually will feel the same thing differently. If you go the topper route, I would probably be looking in the range of 1-2" of "soft" (say 18-24ILD) given your experience and weights. More specific than this or even if you fall outside this "range" with "other than normal" preferences is very difficult to predict without some field testing. Typically a 3" layer is a "rough guideline" for a comfort layer but what is under and over it, using a "progressive" or "differential" approach, differences in weight and weight distribution, and other circumstances and preferences, all play a role that can only really be tested in experience. In your case, using a soft topper would be a "progressive" approach in the comfort layers (soft over medium comfort layers) which would tend to allow for a slightly thicker topper than a "differential" approach (the bottom part of your comfort layer would be firmer and play a sort of "dual role"). This is why a 2" soft topper may work well. Your "overall" mattress construction (softer over firmer and more of a differential between comfort and support layers) would be a more "differential" approach. In other words you would be using parts of both. Putting 3" of soft over firm and extra firm or even over xfirm and xfirm would be a more "pure" differential approach. 3" soft over firm would be more like the mattress you have but would probably be an improvement since you would be less likely to "go through" the comfort layers and feel the firm layers underneath. It could feel both softer and more supportive. The only issue here is what different places call soft. At sleepez, soft is 22-24 which is certainly not the softest talalay latex available and to some people would be bordering on medium in feel. There is such a wide range of ILD available in latex that different places sometimes label the same ILD's in different ways depending on what they have available. In other words their labels are relative to what else they have. This is compounded by the fact that a layer of latex is not exactly the same ILD in every place in the layer and is made "to a range" rather than "exact". Talalay is usually more specific than Dunlop. Since SLAB sells all the different firmnesses of Talalay made by Latex International, I believe their "labeling" is among the most accurate. If you go here and click on the ILD scale image under the pictures, you will see that they only have "labels" for the very bottom (14-19 ILD which they call super soft) and the very top (40-44 ILD) which they call extra firm. They let everyone else figure out what they would call the ILD's in between (and even have a range at each end) which I think is wise. While 44 is the firmest LI makes in Talalay, there are firmer latexes than this available in Dunlop. If I was forced to "label" talalay, I would call 14-18 super soft, 19-23 soft, 24-28 medium, 29-33 medium/firm, 34-38 firm, and 39-44 extra firm ... and I would probably get lots of "argument" (laughing). Phoenix This message was modified Dec 24, 2010 by Phoenix
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Thanks Phoenix! Giving me a lot to consider here and unfortunately the price is quite high to pay for shipping things back to SleepEZ. I just dropped 1.5 Medium at UPS. $122! While it's being shipped back I still have time to decide on replacement for either 3" soft or medium. I am going to check out local stores to find something to compare between soft and medium, although I am leaning towards 3" medium because I can always add 2" soft topper if I want to. |
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If I was in your shoes, I would say the odds are strongly in your favour that the sleepez soft (22-24) would work better than the sleepez medium (30-32). This medium would be more like medium/firm to me and I (and my other half) would find it to firm. I am 6.5 195 with some "bony parts" and she is 5'7 with (IMO) nice curves/bony parts and around 130. She is more sensitive than I am. We chose comfort layers of 22 which is soft but certainly not super soft in our experience (although there is layering above this which would make it "act" a little differently than just sleeping on 22 ILD latex). When we were field testing (and we did a lot) there is no doubt that 30-32 would have been much too firm for us as a comfort layer. I would also think that this would help your wife as she progressed as she will likely become more sensitive as the pregnancy progresses and at the same time will need the underlying support to keep her "middle" from sinking in too far. Even in normal circumstances, with side sleeping and with the nature of latex, 30-32 would be "on the firm side" although as I've mentioned field testing will be a more accurate indicator and YMMV. I do have a fairly large list of latex mattress manufacturers and some retail outlets so if you let me know what city you are in I may have some suggestions that may help in field testing. Phoenix |
| Oh, I would really appreciate if you let me know best places to go in Bellevue/Seattle area. I already checked out soaringheart.com and planning to go to SleepStation in Bellevue. |
| One more minor suggestion that you probably already thought about....wait until you get the bed thing figured out before you go out and buy a bunch of new pillows....well, maybe just keep it all in mind that the final bed may affect your pillow loft. Good luck and let us know how your search comes out. |
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I am actually reusing existing pillows which are low profile and been working great for years.
On our 2nd night we slept without 1.5 M layer and surprisingly we felt better in the morning, I still woke up a few times during a night, but at least I did not feel sore in the morning. This was just a test and we are not going to keep it at the same firmness permanently. So, I am going back and forth on my configuration by reading on some user feedback on these forum and now leaning towards replacing XF for M and 1.5M with 1.5S. I read one review that mentions that 3"S from SleepEZ provides no support and feels sqeeshy.. Our next configuration test would be F - M - 1.5 S. This message was modified Dec 25, 2010 by klas
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It just so happens that I did most of my field testing in Seattle so I do know of a few places :) These should be helpful ... http://mattressdepotusa.com/mattresses.htm Retailer. Be careful if you go here as most of their Englander latex has a poly core (not so bad) and 2" poly over the latex (much worse). You would be testing poly thinking it was latex (which they are "trained" to say it is). http://thesleepstoreusa.com/index.php?main_page=page&id=3 Carries a wide variety of latex including Essentia, Land and sky, Dormia, and Natura. Good testing ground but I wouldn't buy anything there due to pricing. http://www.bedroomsandmore.com/images/products/mattress/mattress-seattle.htm Carry a wide variety of latex mattresses and brands. Great testing ground and I found them very helpful but prices too high. http://www.coco14.com/info.html Carries a fairly wide variety of Natura which would make a good testing ground. Don't know much about them http://www.everrestmattress.com/ourlocation.html Manufacturer. Doesn't carry any all latex but would be a good place to go for someone looking for a mattress under $1000. Good people and make double sided. Included for others who may look at this list. http://www.soaringheart.com/ourStore.cfm#SubTopic2 Retailer. Has very limited all latex options and what they do have is expensive and tends towards very firm mattresses but you already know that. Manufactured by sleepmaster. http://www.seattlemattress.net/ Manufacturer and Retailer. Has a wide variety of latex mattresses including their own with topper options. Very helpful and great testing ground but more expensive than most manufacturers. http://www.bedroomsetuniverse.com/showrooms/ Carries the White Knight all Talalay latex also sold at Sams Club. Not enough variety to use for testing but included in case someone else nearby reads this and wants to test this specific mattress. http://www.sleepcountry.com/location-results.aspx?city=Bellevue%2c+WA&type=all Retailer. Included just to save you a trip and say there's nothing of interest in latex here (a few natural care "sort of latex" by simmons) There are more north, east, and south of you but they are further away and these should give you everything you need for field testing. Most of my testing from these was at bedroomsandmore and seattlemattress. Phoenix This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by Phoenix
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I did a quick search of the forum on "squishy" and I believe found the review you were looking at (talking about lack of support and squishy with a sleepez 10000). I would be very careful as I believe that what they were describing was almost certainly not coming from the soft upper layer but from the medium and firm middle and lower layers. This is primarily where support comes from ... not the upper layers. There are many instances of people making a switch based on incorrect assumptions or interpretations which can lead to a long period of frustrating multiple switches which never seem to "get it right". I would hate to see you go down this road and switching out an Xfirm in the belief it will make a mattress feel softer is an assumption that may well start you down this path. Can I ask you what you are hoping to get to in wanting to switch the Xfirm for the medium? I would also be aware that having a very loose wool quilting (with 1.5" removed) can make a big difference in how a mattress feels. A tight wool layer may feel firmer even over softer latex than a looser wool layer over firmer latex. If this is what is happening it could also lead to incorrect assumptions and contribute to "incorrect" switches. A low profile pillow is generally not the best for side sleeping. It may have been OK on the other mattress because you were sinking into soft foam more than you are sinking into the latex so your head and neck were "lower" however that may no longer be the case with the sleepez and it is possible that a more plush pillow may work better. In any case ... given all the uncertainty ... I would go VERY slowly and not change 2 layers at a time. I would work on the comfort layers first and then see if you need to change the support layers. Most important of all I would do some field testing first as all the reading in the world will not give you the context you need to "translate" what others (including me) experience or advise. Phoenix This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by Phoenix
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I am planning some field testing tomorrow, so this list will be extra helpful! Btw, which place would you recommend for comparative testing to SleepEZ 3" layers combinations? Also, I am just trying to see if I can stick with 8500 model. XF seems to be playing a role of box spring which we already have, so thought about getting M over F would give us more support with 1.5 layer of S to soften things up. This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by klas
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I would go to bedroomsandmore and seattlemattress. Both of them have a range of mattresses that would give you what you need for testing. At this point, I would limit my testing to helping you decide what you need in the top 2 or 3" of a mattress. Lay on each one with an eye to finding out what gives you the best pressure relief and for tomorrow forget about "support". It is the comfort layers that are the most important for now. I would focus on mattresses there with 2" and 3" of "softer" over firm support. You could also test other combinations as well using their recommendations based on your feedback. They are both knowledgeable and helpful and know the mattress constructions they have in the store. A latex mattress (or any all foam mattress) generally needs a firm preferably slatted foundation and doesn't do too well on a boxspring. You are risking hammocking (back pain) on a box spring.regardless of what layers are over it. Phoenix This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by Phoenix
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Field testing was a success this time.
1st store we visited was Seattle Mattress company. They had variety of latex mattresses and the salesperson gave us a lot of information and told us IDL rating for each mattress we tried. We compared Talalay firm mattress with IDL 36 and Medium with 28". Both were 6" mattresses and Medium felt the best to us. We also tried it with 3" soft top with IDL 19, but it was way too soft. Price wise they were selling 6" for 1275" + tax, which is not that much more expensive then SZ. Second stop was at Bedrooms and More. The sales person was very friendly and spent considerable amount of time showing and talking about latex. Their Englander line seems to use only Dunlop. The model we tried was the most popular and had 6" of Dunlop layer at the bottom with 2" soft layer and wool on top. It felt great and we both liked it. I asked him what IDL layers it had and he didn't know. Also, I asked him about durability and he told us a story how synthetic blend talalay was less durable then a 100% natural. So, I am going to take chances and exchange our XF layer with M and get 2" wool topper locally to try it out. As far as foundation goes, I'll probably either replace it or get a piece of plywood. Thank you for all the recommendations! I'll update once I get a new layer to try out with a topper. This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by klas
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Way to go on your testing. Your "preference" in each store is a bit "conflicting" though (at least in how you are "interpreting" it). The "soft over medium" at seattle mattress may have felt "too soft" but I doubt it was the "upper layer" because otherwise you wouldn't have liked the "soft latex over firm dunlop" at bedrooms and more. I would look carefully at "why" you liked the mattresses you did before making decisions. The casing at seattlemattress is also nice and stretchy but I would look carefully at the seams ... we (my other half who notices stuff like that more) noticed it was fraying in a couple of spots and said she didn't think it was "well constructed". bedroomsandmore also has Natura, OMI, and their own "layers" which would be a better testing ground than the Englanders (although the englanders there don't have poly on top). The son of the owner there is the most knowledgeable. What they told you about Talalay regarding durability is just not correct. The price at seattlemattress is almost double what is available online ... not counting tax. Phoenix This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by Phoenix
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I should correct myself that 3" of IDL 19 latex seemed too cushy with either medium or firm bottom vs 2" wool topper with latex over firm. Medium IDL 28 by itself felt good though which might be just enough for us.
We tried bedroomsandmore "layers" as well, but all they sell is Dunlop there. I am also trying to find online that 2" wool topper with latex they used which I really liked. Forgot to ask what brand it was. It was $550 for Queen.
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It was probably one of these Phoenix |
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Although the picture make it look like it's thin I think this was it http://www.bedroomsandmore.com/images/products/toppers/englander-latex-wool-mattress-topper.htm Which I think is a too much $$$ for just the topper. This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by klas
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What you would end up with by exchanging the Xfirm with a medium and adding a "softer" topper would be (from bottom up) is 3" firm (38-40 ILD) under medium (30 - 32 ILD) under 1.5" soft (22-24) under 2" "soft dunlop" Englander @26 ILD. I would be worried that your upper 6.5" is too soft for you (given your feedback) and you could "sink down" too far for proper alignment. The Dunlop 26 ILD Englander topper may also not be ideal over softer talalay in terms of pressure relief either in your top layer (less cradling) and a 2" Natura soft talalay topper with wool (or a similar online purchase to this) may work better. This layering is closer to the mattresses you "didn't like" (in the support layers especially) than the one you did. It may also "aggravate" the issues (seemingly pressure related) you posted about in your original posts (not sinking in far enough on your side and numbness). The fact that you liked 2" of softer over firmer support layers (the 6" Dunlop would be similar to what you have now) also indicates that going softer on top and remaining firm underneath may also work better. One of the most common mistakes is trying to make a mattress "feel" softer by changing the support layers instead of the comfort layers. I would personally test a 2" and 3" Natura (or non natura equivalent) over a firm Dunlop and lay on them for a while in all your sleeping positions (10 "relaxed" minutes each) to see how they felt before making an actual exchange. Having said all that ... no matter what i may believe ... let your experience be the guide. Phoenix This message was modified Dec 26, 2010 by Phoenix
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| Last night we finally got our Medium layer and configured our mattress Firm - Medium - 1.5 Medium. I slept considerably better this time and the morning I woke up without any back/neck pain, but my shoulder was sore. My wife said she slept good and did not have any issues in the morning. We'll give it more time obviously, but I am still concerned that it might be too firm at the bottom layer... |
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I thought you had changed out your original medium 1.5" layer of medium (Reply #9)?. Did you exchange it for another 1.5" medium and then decide to change a 3" core layer? Seems to me the problem is too firm and thin on top ... softening up the bottom layers could well add support issues to the existing pressure issues. Phoenix |
| So originally we got XF-F-1.5M and now it's F-M-1.5M. My wife said it seems soft when she sits, especially on the side, but it's fine when she sleeps. Another try to improve things would probably be exchanging bottom F for M. My lesson from all this so far, is that we don't like "firm" as we might have thought. |
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I believe you are headed for even more issues with your sleeping (on top of what you are having now) if you start changing the support layers for something softer in an effort to "soften up" the mattress. It is the top 3" or so of a mattress which is much more important in helping with shoulder and pressure issues. I believe that the top of your mattress is too firm and too thin from the symptoms you are describing. Given that the middle 3" layer is now medium, changing the top 1.5" for soft may solve the issue but I have my doubts as your comfort layer may still not be thick/soft enough to solve shoulder issues. In other words you are trying to solve issues that come from the top part of your mattress by changing the bottom parts and this usually leads to more problems than you started with. In general, the sides of all latex mattresses will compress more when you are sitting on them as your whole body weight is concentrated in a smaller area. Some mattresses put firmer and cheaper poly around the latex to "compensate" for this but it is only worth doing if sinking in to the edge when you sit on it is a really big issue as this replaces "useable latex" for sleeping with inferior and less durable materials. Phoenix This message was modified Jan 4, 2011 by Phoenix
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Ok, I'll keep things as is for a week or so and will report back. Might add cheap soft layer to experiment. Is this one good to try?
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If you add 1.5" of soft it may still not be enough as it would still be on top of 4.5" of medium and may not be enough soft latex for your shoulders. You would be far better off replacing the 1.5" layer for something softer and then adding more soft (possibly another inch) if you needed to. The topper you linked to is not latex (2 percent latex, 98 percent poly) and the poly in it would degrade quickly. Of course it's cheap enough that it may be worth a few months of comfort but you would lose most of the benefits of sleeping on latex. If you need a topper at all it's worth getting the right ILD of real latex as it will last you many years and is much better value. Phoenix This message was modified Jan 4, 2011 by Phoenix
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Sean from SZ said that 1.5 soft is not that much different from 1.5 medium. I also noticed that 1.5M is soft enough and appears to have different texture then regular 3" M layer. This message was modified Jan 4, 2011 by klas
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Sigh ... If it wasn't "that much different" then why not sell just a single ILD? What would be the point of even selling different ILD's? What a 1.5" layer "feels" like is not an indicator of how it "performs" when you sleep on it. All thinner layers "feel" softer than thicker layers of the same ILD. What you are experiencing is from a combination of thickness and softness, not just the softness alone. If you add something thinner and softer on top then the ILD of what is under it becomes much more important. Phoenix This message was modified Jan 4, 2011 by Phoenix
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| That 1.5" medium is actually very soft and very thin, so I can't image 1.5" soft will be that much different, but as you suggested I am going to experiment by adding top soft layers before I exchange anything. I feel like I am pretty close to ideal feel of the bed. |
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The 1.5" is not "very soft" in any way. It is 30-32 ILD which is medium and even getting close to firm. There is not a lot of difference between having 4.5" and 3" of medium under a comfort layer. What you feel ... especially in the shoulders ... will depend on the combination of softness and thickness in the top 3" and having 4.5" of 30-32 ILD under a comfort layer will not be that much different from having 3" of 30-32 ILD under it ... especially in terms of how deeply it allows your shoulder to sink in. It may however contribute to how far your hips sank down (there is a difference between "sinking in" to a comfort layer and "sinking down" into the mattress as a whole) and create some alignment issues. You would just be paying for an extra 1.5" of medium with little benefit and possible problems in your case. The more you "add on top" the more the 1.5" of medium becomes part of your support system (deeper layers) and the less effect it will have on your comfort. As part of your support system ... how it "feels" is really irrelevant. It's ILD (and some other "specs") will determine how it performs. Having said all of that ... there is enough information in this thread to make good choices so I will leave it to you to decide on what is "best". Phoenix This message was modified Jan 4, 2011 by Phoenix
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| Thanks Phoenix for all your help! |
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Just an update after a week of sleeping on our new configuration I am happy to report that after initial “break in” period where our bodies were sore, Medium has been working quite well for us. We did not like the feel of SZ mattress cover underneath the sheets, so we added a thin layer of Natura organic wool cover from Costco that improved things for us. Also from Costco, organic latex pillow and 2” soft topper coming next that I wanted to experiment with. |
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3 weeks later update... Let me first mention that we have been "upgrading" not only our bed, but other things as well to improve quality of our sleep: - Comforter - Natura wool from Costco which is awesome and I highly recommend it! - Bed sheets and duvet - 100% Pima cotton from Macy's - super soft! - Waterproof Natura wool layer from Sears.
So, back to latex... I can't speak for my wife because she hasn't been sleeping well during pregnancy, but for me medium latex firmness has been working well. What I did notice is that I no longer turn in my sleep and I wake up usually in the same position which is on my side. It seems to be a good and a bad thing. The good thing is that, I feel comfortable to sleep in this position without tossing and the bad thing is that my side gets slightly sore. So what happens is that my body wakes me up because of that after about 6 hours I turn and sleep for another 1-2 hours. I am still wondering about trying 1-1.5 inches of soft latex layer. |