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OK, I mentioned in a few other threads that I had ordered a Dunlop topper from SleepEZ, with the plan to upgrade to their complete 3-layer mattress if I liked it. And I promised I would post when I got the topper, so here goes... We ordered the Cal King topper split soft / medium; soft for my petite wife (who can sleep anywhere on anything), medium for "not quite as petite" We put it on our (hated!) Tempurpedic a few nights ago. My wife likes her soft side fine, but she likes pretty much anything. To me, my medium side feels a little too firm (barely ok for back sleeping but too firm for side sleeping). I talked to Sean and he said the Tempurpedic combination of firm foam and unheated (because of the layer of latex on top) memory foam would likely be firmer than what he would suggest - maybe the same as 2 layers of extrafirm latex. Initially he had suggested I get a firm / extrafirm to go under my medium, but after talking he suggested I go with medium / firm to get a little softer feel. He didn't want me to go with a soft topper since he didn't think that would hold up well for me. So I ordered the full mattress today. For those of you who don't know about the "upgrade" deal, here is how it works. You order the topper (and you get to try it out before you commit to a full mattress). Then you order the bed you want at the price of the next bed down. This ends up being cheaper than buying the mattress outright. For me that meant: 1) Order cal king topper for $395 So you get to try before you buy and you save money - win win! I will update again here when I get the mattress... Steve |
(250 lb) me. We received the topper within a few days. I ordered Dunlop because Sean at SleepEZ said it would support me better than Talalay (because Dunlop has more rubber / less air). I had only tried Talalay, and expected there to be a big difference in the Dunlop, but honestly I couldn't tell a difference. I assume it sleeps a bit differently, but, to me, it looks, feels, and smells the same.|
I thought I would post an update, as its now been a few months and I think I've got things about as good as they are going to get. You can read back thru this thread for details, but essentially I bought a SleepEz 10000, cal king, 3 split layers. The original config was all dunlop latex, Med over Med over Firm for my side, and Soft over Med over Firm on my wife's side. My inital impression was that the bed was way too hard; my wife thought her side was ok, maybe a little too firm. I bought a few toppers to experiment with, but eventually decided I needed to swap a layer. After talking to SleepEZ (Shawn) I decided to get 2 pieces (1 layer) of Talalay Medium. Initially I put the Talalay Medium on top, with the 2 Dunlop mediums underneath. I actually found that to be a bit too squishy, so then I changed to Dunlop Medium over Talalay Medium over Dunlop Medium. By this time, my wife's opinion had gone from "maybe a little too firm" to "definitely too firm", so she decided to try the Talalay Medium in her stack too, going Dunlop Soft over Talalay Medium over Dunlop Medium. We also added one of the toppers (1" of memory foam) into the cover on the top layer of latex, and put a 1" wool topper on top of the actual mattress. So, we both ended up getting rid of our Firm layer, and we are both finding our new configurations to be pretty comfortable. One interesting thing to me was how much softer the Talalay was; I would say the Soft Dunlop and the Medium Talalay feel about the same. I would also say that, to me, latex just doesn't feel as comfortable as a really nice spring and foam bed. I would love to be able to recreate that cushy pillowtop feeling in a mattress that would last and provide proper support. But I suspect that I am about as close as I can get to that goal (knowing that most spring and foam mattresses and especially pillowtops just don't last very well). Another thing I wanted to mention is how cooperative SleepEZ (Shawn) have been. I called several times before I decided to swap layers. In fact, I was officially beyond the swap period when I finally asked him to swap. His only concern was making me happy and comfortable - no grief at all about swapping after 60 days. He also encouraged me to keep all the layers for a while after getting the new ones, so that I could play around more and make sure I was happy before deciding which layers to return. So overall, I am pretty happy with the comfort of the bed, and very happy with SleepEz. If the bed lasts as long as its supposed to I will be very happy indeed... Steve This message was modified Sep 27, 2008 by st3v3k4hn
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| Steve, thanks for a great post and I am glad SleepEZ is trying to accommodate their buyers and learned that allowing customers to take their time in getting the right configuration will prevent returns. I am very pleased with the changes in SleepEZ and I am so pleased that you and your wife got configurations that worked. Both SleepEZ and FloBeds seem to care about their customers. For me, my FloBeds latex combination is more comfortable than any conventional mattress I slept on. But it did take a lot of patience and many latex core exchanges causing some frustration but worth the time to get a comfort level. I can see your time was well worth it also. the pillow top conventional spring mattresses always hurt my back but for those that love them, it is costly since they do not last long. I just could no longer sleep on a conventional mattress due to my allergies so I had to try something else and clients of mine suggested FloBeds. |
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Another update. Sean let me do a 2nd swap (at just cost of shipping) last week, 8 months after my initial purchase. Gotta hand it to SleepEz on that front... Quick summary. I bought my bed in June '08, all dunlop, medium and firms, always felt way too firm for me. Swapped a firm dunlop layer for a medium talalay layer in Sept, and swapped for another talalay layer (soft this time) last week. I'd been in contact with Sean by phone once a month or so during that time, telling him my issues and trying new solutions (switching layers, adding layers, deleting layers, etc). He told me to take my time and that he would do everything he could to make me happy and I have to say I'm impressed with his service and commitment. Unfortunately I still don't love the mattress, I guess I'm just not a latex guy, it just feels a bit weird and pushy to me. But the new layers (soft Talalay over med Talalay over med Dunlop) at least feel about right in terms of softness. And I definitely like the talalay better than the dunlop, its softer and more forgiving or something. It seems to be sleepable for me, but I still wake up stiff. So I don't think I will be buying latex again. But I just wanted to post this to let people know if you have a SleepEZ bed and you're not satisfied at least try and call them and see if they can do anything for you... Steve This message was modified Feb 26, 2009 by st3v3k4hn
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Hey, Steve; I know what you mean about Latex...no matter what they do, it just doesn't support me like I need. I do believe that Latex has its place in the bedding...perhaps if you got a spring mattress that had a layer of cotton batting and then a zippered pillowtop area...you could use some of the foam there?! Kait |
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Kait wrote: Hey, Steve; I know what you mean about Latex...no matter what they do, it just doesn't support me like I need. I do believe that Latex has its place in the bedding...perhaps if you got a spring mattress that had a layer of cotton batting and then a zippered pillowtop area...you could use some of the foam there?! Kait Kait, last week I visited Bloomingdale's website and was surprised to see even a few high-end companies (like Shifman) using latex in their $15,000+ coil spring mattresses. Personally I think it's more marketing than anything else, and what irks me is the amount of misinformation and outright disinformation being spread by manufacturers. Even so-called "natural" latex is 60% artificial, petrochemical foam, yet consumers are told it's pure, green and eco-friendly. Just outrageous. This message was modified Feb 27, 2009 by JimBC
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