Mattress Forum

These are not exact apple to apples products, and one company may appeal to some and the other to others.  I know for my own latex bed, I would not have been happy ordering from Sleepez, as my own particular wish list was filled exactly by Flobeds.  However, I'll be in a great position to offer a direct comparison as I'll be ordering the Sleepez for my daughter - if they can accomodate what I want (e.g. guaranteed LI latex plus a few other things).

One thing we do know is that people who have purchased from each company have been thrilled with the customer service and the beds they received.  Among all the latex mattress choices out there, you can't go wrong with either Flobeds or Sleepez.

I have always wondered why SleepEZ advertises their 100% natural latex pieces as being 2.8 inches in thickness.

The question has also been asked, "What SleepEZ does with their returned used pieces of latex?" I have not heard any satisfactory answers on this forum to that question.

I am in no way trying to disparage against SleepEZ. There are many satisfied customers of theirs on this forum. They do have cheaper prices. But given the above questions about their operation one just has to wonder. Also they do seem to lean towards blended latex, and they also receive their latex from a variety of manufacturers other than Latex International.

To be fair to FloBeds they state their policy regarding their return pieces on their website and not by word of mouth over the telephone as SleepEZ seems to be doing (when I checked, several weeks ago, what is stated on SleepEZ website does not square with what people are saying that Sean is telling them about SleepEZ return policy), I think what we need to do, as best we can, compare apples to apples as regards prices. The old saying, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch!" It's a truism that we need to seriously consider in all of our business transactions. I am sure others are just like me, their money did not come to them quickly or easily and we need to fully understand what it is we are purchasing. That is why forums like this one are so important to people like us. But we do need to get our facts correct so that others may benefit.

http://www.sleepez.com/natural.htm

Hi Kimberly. Go here and see what you think.

http://www.sleepez.com/latex-mattress-13000.htm

This is where I always wind up when I select there 13000. I see your point regarding the link you show. However you must extrapolate the dimensions based on a picture that is different from the link I posted.

I just wish there website was a little more clear and a little bit easier to operate. I'm not accusing them of anything. And it may just be that I am a poor operator of websites, or just don't get it! But it has always seemed to me that SleepEZ would prefer to sell you the blended products. Not that there's anything wrong with blended products, in fact if memory serves, that is what you have and you are quite satisfied with it. Over time it may even prove to be superior as far as wearability is concerned to all natural. But it would be a good thing if they would show the same kind of illustration for their all-natural product and the dimensions of the different layers that they show for their blended product in the link that I provided.

And they are still showing this 90 day exchange policy.

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You don't have to worry, because the forum has been more than fair towards flobeds.

Since you have asked what sleepeze does with their returns, you obviously feel that this is an important issue.

I don't think that all you flobed "homies" satisfactorily responded to Natalie's husband's statement about the old off colored piece of foam sent as a replacment, nor has anyone commented about Lynn's replacment piece that smelled so bad that she was embarrassed  that her guests might smell it. 

We both have every right to be happy about our respective purchases, but since neither of us really knows anything about sleepeze, don't you think we should let those with at least SOME information be the ones to comment. 

Philip

The Sleepez 13000 model offered in a choice of Dunlop or blended Talalay latex:

http://www.sleepez.com/latex-mattress-13000.htm

It says right in the description that the layers are 2.8" and the total is 10.4" (excluding cover).

The Sleepez 13000 model offered in 100% natural Talalay latex:

http://www.sleepez.com/natural.htm

It says in the description that the layers total 12" (4x3=12) (excluding cover).

I have a Flobeds and like them just as much as you, but I do believe you are splitting hairs here.  There is no lack of information on the Sleepez site about what comprises the mattress.

Yes, Sleepez does advocate blended Talalay latex over natural blended latex.  They state on their website that blended Talalay latex combines the best qualities of natural latex (softness) with synthetic latex (strength and durability).  They believe that blended latex will have a longer life than natural latex.

So, Flobeds has a slightly different slant.  They tip their hats to 100% natural.

In reality, we both know that there is little to no documented evidence that one is superior to the other and I can't imagine how one would go about demonstrating this.  In the end, the benefits of blended vs natural is a subjective experience.  There are going to be people who want a 100% natural product and the 100% Natural Talalay is going to speak to them.  There are other people who are going to take a pragmatists approach and believe that the strength and durability of blended, along with the lower price, outweighs the "100% natural" tag.

I'm glad you enjoyed your "time away". 

Just because, for some reason, you like flobeds doesn't make me feel the need to like them, as well.  Of course, it doesn't make me feel the need to dislike them either. 

There were no Savvyrest returns because, with their help, we got it right the first time, but, if there had been any returns necessary, at least we can be certain that the new pieces would, in fact, be new. 

Even though you commented on my "homies" remark, you still chose to not respond to the fact that on at least two occasions flobeds did not send out pristine replacements as their "return policy" stated they would do. 

As to my "sideways logic", isn't is obvious my intent is not to impress you but to, in some way, get you to be more fair. 

As to my "sarcastic gland", Eagle, after reading literally hundreds of your pro flobed/anti everyone else posts, I just can't seem to contain myself. 

Philip

This is doing nothing to further the comparative discussion of what Flobeds and Sleepez have to offer.

Yes, I wondered about this. I was least interested in the blended, and much more in the Dunlop and the natural Talalay. In fact, I was thinking of mixing the two. Until I spoke with Shawn, and now I'm all confused all over again.

Anyway, Kimberly, I hope you receive your bed and can report on it before I finally place my order.

Kimberly: I agree with you. After posting my last reasponse to Philip I was thinking the same thing. I apoligize to the OP of this thread for Hijacking it for such a frivolous post. I am sorry.

Don

That Brylane topper that I bought had hardly any smell at all but I still aired it out over my Banister like I do all the latex pieces due to my allergies to be safe any of the plastic smell from the wrapping goes away since plastic bothers my allergies.  I love that Brylane topper so I told Dave to not look anymore for me.

The set-up started out way too soft for me and if I had bought from SleepEZ, I would have had the highest fees for all the latex exchanges I did. My bed ended up being cheaper than SleepEz due to all the promotions going on in the 90 days I had the bed that I watched for and let Dave know I was entitled to another credit.

But in summary despite most of the latex pieces arriving in great shape there was one that was too long with writing on it instead of the Latex International Tag (Dave paid the cost to ship it back to him) and one that had some rips in it that I wish now I did not exchange since the new Extra Firm Latex Core that arrived in perfect shape was softer at 35 ILD while the other one was 39 ILD which I preferred. I found out that my back can feel a few ILD differences.  I wish I knew this fact, then I would have requested all Extra Firm Latex Cores not be less than 37 ILD that were sent to me and I would have been patient waiting for these special cores to be found since Latex International puts an average ILD on the bottom of the latex cores. 

I am at a loss regarding this smell business. I covered this subject, and many more in my thread, "I just bought a Flobeds." The post count went way up and every thing got covered over a six month period of time.

I never had any experence with a bad smell at anytime. And I exchanged layers about four times I believe, possabely more. All the smell I had with my 100% natural was a pleasing sweet cookey dough order that I liked. In fact I am sorry that it went away over a period of about two months. The one blended piece that I received also had this sweet cookie dough order but to a lesser degree, combined with a very slight chemical odor. I always associated this chemical smell with latex rubber never having smelled all natural latex before. Not realizing that most latex rubber is synthetic that we get in new furniture and new cars. And that's if we are lucky and don't get 100% PU foam.

I am always glad when someone has a good buying experience no matter the company or the type of material that they choose to buy. I know how frustrating it is to make this kind of a purchase over the Internet. I have never done this before. That is why I liked doing business with FloBeds. I have heard various stories about folks who bought from FloBeds and who had some kind of a problem with a layer or two or more. But they always got their problem resolved to their satisfaction. This is the kind of business model I wanted when I was putting out this kind of money. In any event it worked for me and I'm glad I bought my mattress where I did.

NONE of my latex exchanges had any noticeable odor except the slight sweet smell that latex has when new but it was very mild. It was that new big Queen size topper (that FloBeds does not normally sell) that stunk up my home. 

Even after my 90 days, Dave let me do another latex core exchange for another Super Firm latex core that was in the blended when I found at that the natural latex cores were 3" and the blended latex cores were 2.8" so my bed was not the same height.  He knew I had the car accident and my father died and now I wanted my bed even firmer than I had it before.  I felt this was great customer service. then I called Dave and told him I still wish my bed was a bit firmer now that I am having back problems from the car accident.  Dave told me he would extend the 90 day exchange policy one more time to let me do two more latex core exchanges to exchange a 34 ILD and a 36 ILD latex core for two 37 ILD latex cores that were brand new and just arrived the day before since I waited patiently until he found two X-Firm latex cores that averaged above 36 ILD.

 I am in the middle of another deadline that is over with tonight so I am just checking in as I finally had a breather between clients. 

I just edited the above post (had some typos like 1.2" rather than 1.5" and I also added some new information now that I had more time to type) now that I have quit for the night and will focus back on my deadlines tomorrow. Hopefully the post makes sense since it is late and I am tired and can't wait to get some sleep.