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what is this SOFTNESS that occurs in Tempurpedics after you buy and sleep on them?
Can anyone like Budgy please explain that?
How soon this softness occurs?
does it take away SUPPORT AND PRESSURE RELIEF provided by the tempurpedic mattress?
Is SOFTNESS IN TEMPURPEDIC MATTRESS A concern?
Thanks.
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Regarding softening, from the Tempupedic website: "This limited warranty does not include a normal increase in softness of the TEMPUR® pressure-relieving material which does not affect the pressure-relieving qualities of the mattress." For complete details of their 20-year warranty, click link above. |
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pianoman wrote: Regarding softening, from the Tempupedic website: "This limited warranty does not include a normal increase in softness of the TEMPUR® pressure-relieving material which does not affect the pressure-relieving qualities of the mattress." For complete details of their 20-year warranty, click link above. |
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Jim what tempurpedic bed did you try? So it took only 1 week for that tempurpedic to soften up? Jim I read that you tried the latex also..why did you return the latex? thanks Jim. |
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jimsocal wrote: See, that's why I hate Tempurpedic. They are saying the increased softness does not affect the pressure-relieving qualities... Well, it sure as h-e-double-l affects the SUPPORT quality! After about a week I found mine impossible to sleep on; it absolutely killed my back. At least they do have a 60 day or whatever it was, refund policy (where and when I bought mine, they did, anyway). That's exactly what scared me away from building my own TP clone... fear of MF softening. After perusing this forum I know latex softens just a little, but nothing like MF. I just don't want to have to guess at the right firmness... the "Well-it's-a-little-too-firm-now-but-in-four-months*-I-hope-it'll-be-just-right" sort of thing. Hopefully with latex such guessing won't need to happen. *just after the sleep trial expires, of course |
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I'm hoping I won't have that issue with our new Bellafina. (It arrived today. Yay!) It's 3" of MF over 3" of latex, over 4" of "air channel" PU.
In the thread I started about TP's breaking down, which seems to happen at approx 4.5 years for many people, a number of people commented that they've had theirs for 10 years with no appreciable breakdown or loss of support. Personally, even if mine does breakdown after 5 years, and it isn't covered under earranty, it's certainly not difficult, or terribly expensive, to just replace the softened layer. One TP user wrote a blog describing his cure for his own TP breakdown, which was to simply remove the cover and flip each layer. Easy, breezy, George and Weezy. This message was modified Jun 8, 2010 by garypen
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| I have reason to believe that for most people the increase in softness (or decrease in firmness) is not an issue. They do get softer over time......however the beds on my showroom that are 5 or 6 months old have barely changed....I think it usually is something that happens slowly over time for most tempurpedic mattresses. In some cases people will be more sensitive to smaller changes that can happen quite quickly. |
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garypen wrote: I'm hoping I won't have that issue with our new Bellafina. (It arrived today. Yay!) It's 3" of MF over 3" of latex, over 4" of "air channel" PU.
In the thread I started about TP's breaking down, which seems to happen at approx 4.5 years for many people, a number of people commented that they've had theirs for 10 years with no appreciable breakdown or loss of support. Personally, even if mine does breakdown after 5 years, and it isn't covered under earranty, it's certainly not difficult, or terribly expensive, to just replace the softened layer. One TP user wrote a blog describing his cure for his own TP breakdown, which was to simply remove the cover and flip each layer. Easy, breezy, George and Weezy. Thanks. |
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Here is bellafina. no latex in it and no 3 inches over 3 inches either!!!!!! It is all memory foam....
http://www.tempurpedic.com/mattresses/tempur/the_bellafina_bed_by_tempur_pedic/ |
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Your salesperson was mistaken. http://tempurpedic.ca/mattresses/bellafina.php On the left in the support layers it specifically lists latex. It is synthetic but it is there. In the US they just call it Tempur Flex....but its latex. This message was modified Jun 8, 2010 by budgy
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budgy wrote: Your salesperson was mistaken. http://tempurpedic.ca/mattresses/bellafina.php On the left in the support layers it specifically lists latex. It is synthetic but it is there. In the US they just call it Tempur Flex....but its latex. But it is synthetic latex not natural latex. Is that a disadvantage? thanks. |
| well its certainly less expensive...they are two different things. realistically I think for most people that buy a Tempur they are not overly concerned about natural content. wouldn't make sense for Tempur to use natural rubber regardless of the benefits...because if they did advertise the benefits of the material it really opens up the window for people to just look at all natural latex mattresses. This is definitely a business decision.....its probably the same reason why they don't even call it Latex on the Tempur US website. |
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The Tempur-pedics DO indeed get softer and it MOST DEFINITELY DOES affect support AND comfort. I've had one for a while now and I absolutely HATE IT. If I didn't know better, I'd swear I was sleeping on the box foundation directly. I have 2 herniated disks, lumbar spinal stenosis & degenerative disk disease and this bed kills me night after night. It's on its way out the door. What a waste of $3k. NEVER AGAIN. BD |
| BD, unfortunately I don't see any bed curing your physicla ailments. There are no miracle beds out there. I have lower back problems too. Regardless of beds, you really need one with an adjustable base. However, there are very few sales people out there who actually know how to show them. Usually they are afraid to because of the extra expense. Price however was second to comfort for me. I've had my tempur allura for a year now with an adjustable base. It's the best investment I have made in a very long time. Support wise, it kills my old latex in that category. I didn't like it much at all when I first got it. It was way firm (I knew what to expect knowing several people who own them). After conditioning and softening it's truly amazing. Mine wasn't cheap. But if it lasts as long as some of my friends and family have, it's worth it. Sounds like you got one of the lesser expensive models that are firmer. Good luck to your new bed search and check out adjustable bases by someone who knows how to show them. |
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Good_Sleep wrote: After conditioning and softening it's truly amazing. |
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garypen wrote: What do you mean by "conditioning"? I think "conditioning" simply means sleeping in the bed for an extended period of time, thus "breaking it in". As you know, MF will soften over time. |
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I see. I thought perhaps he meant something other than "breaking in" from standard usage, such as walking on it, or pounding it, or some such. While I am becoming more happy with our new TP after each night, I still find it just a tad firm. If it softens up just a tiny bit on the very top layer, I'd be happier. But, then I would worry that it would keep softening. Does TP MF soften a little from break-in, then stop softening for a while. I do understand that lots of people say they do soften at the 4 - 5 year mark. But, I am hoping for an initial minor softening from breaking in, then retaining that broken in level of firmness/softness until that 4 - 5 year major softening. This message was modified Jun 11, 2010 by garypen
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