Some basic information needed
Mar 1, 2010 3:33 PM
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Hi I am planning to replace a California King mattress and box spring that we have had for some time and am totally confused by the choices. I've heard memory foam gets too hot...(live in Southern California near the beach). Is that correct? Are there ways of mitigating that? I have a custom made headboard which limits the overall height of the mattress. Are there adjustable frame options? I read in bed very often (since I don't sleep very well...that may change with a new mattress set but I would guess reading in bed will still be a priority. Are there mattress types that should be avoided for bed-readers? My husband is a stomach sleeper, I am side sleeper primarily with some back time. No real problems with back pain for either of us, although I have noticed a hip issue recently...stiffness/soreness, may be related to deterioration of the old mattress. We are both in our mid-60s and are moderately sized (not light, not really overweight...altho carrying a little more than either of us would like). Latex, memory foam, pocket coils are all very confusing. The Costco Emma looks interesting, the FloBeds, too, the SleepEZ, as well. Just a few. Would like to keep the price for bed and foundation to around $2K. I hadn't realized how many options there are...just the latex options are overwhelming. Then the thought of stuffing it ourselves??? What is the White Glove business? Comments? Advice? All thoughts will be gratefully appreciated. Thanks in advance!! Jade
Re: Some basic information needed
Reply #1 Mar 1, 2010 3:49 PM
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There *are* a lot of options and it's a much more confusing business than I thought it would be when I first started shopping for a replacement mattress.  Take your time (if you don't have to buy *immediately*) and become comfortable with the options.

I think one general statement I can make is to recommend that you *don't* go out and buy an "S" brand mattress filled with PU foam, as the general experience, by myself and others, is that your bed will break down within a very short time.

The way to go seems to be:

1) Memory foam, either Tempurpedic or a knock off memory foam (this is where the Costco Emma comes in)
2) Latex
3) Get a cheap bed, do mattress surgery and replace all the insides with quality foam you order yourself . . . ugh.  Jimsocal is the expert on that, personally the very idea gives me the heebie jeebies.

I went the latex route through Flobeds and the "stuffing it yourselves" is really not as difficult as it might sound.  I did a queen size bed all by myself.  It basically involves laying the mattress cover on the foundation, placing the latex layers on the mattress cover, and then zipping it up.  It's a little unweildly because of the nature of the latex, but not difficult at all.  In fact I thought it was kind of fun.

Not sure exactly where you are in Southern California, but I'm in San Diego county.  There is a place called Custom Comfort in Orange county that carries latex beds.   I believe there's another place in Orange County that also carries latex beds.  Escondido mattress in Escondido carries latex beds.  Their showroom is awful and uninviting, and the latex bed was not comfortable, but these are some places you can go to to find out how they feel.

But if you decide you like latex, I would definitely go with a company that 1) offers a zippered mattress cover so that you can exchange layers to get the firmness level you want and 2) has a generous RETURN and exchange policy.

Don't buy any mattress that doesn't allow a full RETURN.  If you only get an exchange policy, you might end up with a retailer that has limited options for you.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!
Re: Some basic information needed
Reply #2 Mar 1, 2010 4:34 PM
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I agree with Kimberly!!
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Reply #3 Mar 1, 2010 4:57 PM
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I normally agree with Kimberly, but I had a knockoff Tempurpedic, Sealey Truform, within less than 6 months I was in pain.  No longer sleep on it.  It was like quick sand.   Good for the first few hours, then pain.  So it is all your opinion and what works for you.

I personally would never buy memory foam again.  Everybody is different.  But I can tell you what doesn't work, but I can not tell you what does work yet.  Some of us are a work in progress.  I do agree about the S brands and the garbage being made now.  I am not convinced memory foam and the PU foam is any better. Just MHO.

Good luck.  Come back and tell us what you end up getting and a review.
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Re: Some basic information needed, now another question
Reply #4 Mar 2, 2010 11:26 AM
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Thanks for the replies. Very helpful.all.

I'm thinking about a Sleep EZ but with a slat foundation. Does that make sense? Where would be a good place to buy a slat fouondation?

Thanks!

Jade
Re: Some basic information needed
Reply #5 Mar 2, 2010 4:12 PM
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Does Sleepez offer a 100% return guarantee?  I don't remember.  Either Sleepez or SaavyRest does not.  Be sure you have a 100% return guarantee, AND that the cover for your mattress can be unzipped to allow the exchange of core layers, should what you order prove to be too soft of too firm.

All mumbo jumbo about Dunlop vs Talalay and natural vs blended is all secondary.  When it comes down to it, when you're buying latex, what matters is the return and exchange guarantees, IMO.
Re: Some basic information needed
Reply #6 Mar 3, 2010 12:25 AM
Location: L.A. area
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Another vote against memory foam of any type - EXCEPT maybe 1" -2" of 5-8lb memory foam (Sensus or Venus) as a topper only.
Go with Flobeds or CostCo they have the full refund policy. (minus shipping?)
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Reply #7 Mar 3, 2010 12:46 AM
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I agree with Kimberly. I am so glad I went with FloBeds that allowed me to return layers and keep adjusting my bed to fit my needs. I also liked having the long 90 return policy for a full refund enabling me to not get stressed and take my time making the bed right for me. I would only go with a company that allowed as many exhanges of latex cores as you need to make and a return policy so you are not stuck with a bed that you do not want. Thank goodness I love my bed.  We are all built differently and each of us has different needs.
Re: Some basic information needed, now another question
Reply #8 Mar 3, 2010 11:40 PM
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Another viewpoint..... I purchased a king  4 layer from SleepEZ and have been pleased so far.  He has a 90 day full return, except for return shipping if you return the whole mattress, and allows you one exchange of layers where he pays shipping to you and you pay shipping back.  Then he has told us if we need to exchange a 2nd or 3rd time, we just pay for shipping to us and return shipping to send the unwanted layer back.  I figure this works out as I have paid quite a bit less for the original mattress and can afford a couple of extra exchanges if I need them.  But then I have 8 layers to play with so I can try all sorts of configurations during my 90 days.  Hope this helps.
Re: Some basic information needed
Reply #9 Mar 4, 2010 12:46 AM
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SleepEZ and their claim that they offer unlimited layer exchanges during the 90 days does not conform to their websites stipulations.

Look here.   http://sleepez.com/warranty.htm

This has come up recently in another thread and we have been told that what MissMac is reporting regarding this subject with SleepEZ is now correct. I do not want to be misunderstood, I am not accusing SleepEZ of double dealing or anything wrong. However, I like to have my contractual relationships in writing, and not just verbal. So if it were me, and I wanted to purchase a SleepEZ mattress, I would write them an e-mail and ask them to send back to me in writing via e-mail a confirmation of this new policy.

As I stated before if they are now allowing unlimited exchanges for free, (other than shipping costs), of layers during the first 90 days then they need to change their website because I would thank that they are losing business.
Re: Some basic information needed
Reply #10 Mar 4, 2010 6:36 AM
Location: L.A. area
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eagle2 wrote:
SleepEZ and their claim that they offer unlimited layer exchanges during the 90 days does not conform to their websites stipulations.

Look here.   http://sleepez.com/warranty.htm

This has come up recently in another thread and we have been told that what MissMac is reporting regarding this subject with SleepEZ is now correct. I do not want to be misunderstood, I am not accusing SleepEZ of double dealing or anything wrong. However, I like to have my contractual relationships in writing, and not just verbal. So if it were me, and I wanted to purchase a SleepEZ mattress, I would write them an e-mail and ask them to send back to me in writing via e-mail a confirmation of this new policy.

As I stated before if they are now allowing unlimited exchanges for free, (other than shipping costs), of layers during the first 90 days then they need to change their website because I would thank that they are losing business.

I basically agree with Eagle2 - SleepEZ seems to be in the process of changing their policy. I noticed on their web site that they now offer an exchange policy on "components" or latex layers with a 20% restocking fee. I think they are in the process of changing things, but I'd like to see it all worked out so that what they say on the phone matches what is said on their web site.
Re: Some basic information needed
Reply #11 Mar 4, 2010 4:06 PM
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I have the Sleep Science Emma and yes it can get hot, but you should be able to mitigate some of that with a mattress protector that limits how much you dig into the foam.

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