Mattress Forum

It's crazy, but my wife and I just "retired" a 15-year old Sealy Posturepedic queen mattress and boxspring set. It was flippable and still slept pretty darn well. Despite it being a pillowtop, there are no visible craters or depressions in it. Crazy. Guess they just don't make 'em like they used to.

Keep in mind that all TPs will soften over time.

There are some similarities, but they are definitely not identical and will respond differently. The Tempur-ES is a softer feeling foam. That's why they call it the "Cloud". I'm not sure about the longevity of the 5-lb Ara MF.

Might as well try something new! Here's another thought ... (not to complicate matters for you, but) ... have you considered a latex mattress? They last longer than other types of mattresses, including MF. Here's a Costco Sleep Science 10" Natural Comfort 100% Latex Mattress that you might want to check out.

Cna't help with the density. Call Costco Customer Service and ask. You can find their number (and a bit more info on the Sleep Science 10" MF mattress, which is called the "Emma") on this page.

Again there are some similarities, but these are definitely different mattresses.

Someone on the forum did a Costco Ara, Emma and Celeste comparison several months ago that you might want to check out.

The last thing you might consider is doing searches on this forum for "Cloud", "Cloud Supreme", "Ara" and "Emma".

Let us know what you decide.

As I understand it from this forum, the major properties of latex seem to be that it is more antimicrobial (hypoallergenic?), does not wear out as fast as coil or foam mattresses, and has more "spring" to it than memory foam or Tempur-pedic. The longevity isn't as important a factor as whether I like the feel of something, and thus far, I haven't ever *seen* any latex mattresses. None of the salespeople in the mattress stores have even mentioned them, although they were happy to show us a range of traditional and Tempur-pedic. The closest I have come is a 3" square of latex on a Tempur-pedic display used for comparison. I do like the Tempur-pedic/MF "sinking feeling," like melting into a bed and being comfortable enough not to want to move. I don't know if latex has that same feel.

Bottom line, we need to buy something ASAP. We already have our new bedroom all set up, minus a mattress, and have been sleeping in our guest room since August. It's time to pull the trigger on something and I kind of had it narrowed down to "something like what we have" and "something like a softer Tempur-pedic." :-)

It sounds like others have found the Costco Ara too soft - which was my ONLY concern with that one myself. I will do as you suggest, call Costco and find out the foam density on the Sleep Science 10". If it weren't for Costco's return policy, there is no way I would purchase something I've never actually lain on. My indecisiveness between the Cloud and Cloud Supreme is a perfect example of that... they feel different and I could never tell that from any description.

In my own limited hands-on, or more like whole-body-on, experience, the way I would explain the difference between the two types of foams is that Latex feels like sleeping on cotton and memory foam like sleeping on sand. You sort of float around on the latex, but sink in and are ensconced by the memory foam.

Of course, those are generalizations based on the one latex mattress I had (which was only latex on the upper 50%) which I slept on for two weeks,  and the one TP mattress I've slept on for one week. (and that one has a layer of latex in the middle!). So, YMMV.

I did notice in all of my shopping that the TP brand of MF does feel different from all of the generic stuff out there. It definitely has a higher quality feel to it. More of the "slow resiliency" effect. Denser. Heavier.

Also, Talalay processed Latex has more of the soft, cushy feel you may desire vs. the dunlop process which is akin to whale blubber. (Some refer to Dunlop as marshmallowey. But, their local supermarkets must sell some pretty old, dense marshmallows.)

I promise to report back once we purchase the mattress and foundation, and let you know how it's panning out! Sounds like assembling the foundation for the Emma can be a challenge.

...the Tempur-Pedic Cloud!

Not the Supreme ... I definitely thought that would be too soft. Just the regular. We got free delivery, two free Tempur-pedic pillows, and a free thin waterproof mattress topper, and they took away an old mattress. With tax, the total came to just over $1900.

I know the Cloud isn't for everyone but it's the one I kept returning to in the stores. Just felt right.

As promised, I will update and review.

Gaddygirl: If you don't mind and please tell me from which place di dyou but the cloud?

what size is it? King size?

did you also buy the foundation too?

what method did you us eto pay them? Check?

good luck

Thanks.

http://www.factorymattressusa.com/

Not sure why you want to know how we paid, but if you must know, it was by credit card.

And, did you have to sign a little piece of paper, or did they have one of those touchscreens?

What were the delivery guys wearing?

Good questions. thanks gary.

Also what were the ladies wearing? Lipstick color? haha...