Tempurpedic
Sep 11, 2011 12:30 PM
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Hi folks...

I posted a question on this forum a few weeks ago & wanted to say "Thank You" to all of you who gave me really well thought-out, detailed, & helpful answers. 

I've been searching off & on for a new mattress for more than a year.  I'm sleeping on an 11 yr old Sealy Posturepedic innerspring mattress (NOT a pillowtop)  that is soooooooooo dipped that it looks like a soup bowl.  I'm literally sleeping in a giant hole.  It's killing me.  So, that's it.  I have to get a mattress, any mattress, because anything would be better than this.

So, I would like to know >>  If price were NO object & someone offered to buy you ANY mattress you wanted, would you get a Tempurpedic, or not??  Because it seems like what holds a lot of people back from getting a Tempurpedic is the OUTRAGEOUSLY HIGH PRICE.

But, it IS possible for something to be super expensive & STILL SUCK, so I'm wondering if you guys still wouldn't get a Tempurpedic simply because you just do not think they are comfortable to sleep on & that they have too many problems (sleep hot, too hard in winter, too soft in summer, stink, not good for marital relations...).

I don't know, I'm thinking of just giving up & buying an Original Mattress Factory Orthopedic Ultra Plush innerspring (NOT pillowtop).  They are only $779 for a Queen set & they are the most popular of the OMF beds.  Also, Consumer Reports Readers Scores from May 2010 rates OMF 2nd only to Tempurpedic for customer satisfaction.

It just seems, from reading this forum, that every single person on here that bought a Tempurpedic had to test drive it for weeks & months, & then STILL ended up exchanging it for a different Tempur model & STILL was not sure they were comfortable!!  Some of you, are test driving TWO Tempurs at one time using split Kings w/ your spouses & are having problems w/ BOTH models!!

It sounds like Tempurpedic is a ridiculous hassle!!!  Wouldn't it just be easier to get the OMF Orthopedic Ultra Plush innerspring??  How bad could it possibly be compared to the endless Tempurpedic hassle that you all seem to be enduring?!!

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #1 Sep 11, 2011 12:43 PM
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Well, I just bought a Tempurpedic Cloud Twin XL yesterday (the set is $1450 with fixed foundation). 

Little bit of odor but not bad.  Mattress is supportive and soft at same time.  I like it.  It's only 8" thick, but don't let that fool you because the quality seems high.  My first Tempurpedic mattress, so can't speak about longevity, but I've had a TP Symphony pillow for about 4 years and it's the same as day I got it.

I don't like to sink too much into memory, so that's why I wen't only with regular Cloud.  Thought Supreme might be a bit too much sinking in.  Regular Cloud is easy to sleep on for me.  I can turn slightly and it contours and holds me in place.  No pushback.  Great pressure relief and it's not even broken in yet.

Bought TP adv. adjustable base Thursday.  It works well.  Hopefully I become more of a back sleeper over time.

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #2 Sep 11, 2011 12:54 PM
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Comparison between Tempurpedic Cloud and iComfort Insight, both with fixed foundation -

Tempurpedic Cloud twin XL - $1450

Serta iComfort Insight twin XL - $899

(I don't think all Tempurpedics are outrageously high.  The thick ones like Rhapsody are high, but I didn't feel I needed that)

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iComfort Insight with box spring foundation - this is the standard foundation sold with most conventinal mattresses.  It's a series of vertical support rods and 'wire frame' at surface.  Mine had an 8" gap between vertical support rods all down the center, top to bottom of mattress.  There were rods between, but those rods dipped noticeably  all through the hips / butt area.  Mattress sinks too there.

Also, the iComfort on display at Sears Newpark had a box spring, but that box spring had the 'Sealy / Stearns and Foster' pattern which I found better.  It only has 4" gaps, but much less chance of sagging in middle. 

So, which box spring will Serta deliver?  Who knows.  They didn't deliver me what was shown at Sears, but it's all hidden under fabric.

My iComfort Revolution slept hot, had 5.75" memory foam (not 4.75" advertised).  ... and the foundation sagged.  Where's the quality?

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Tempurpedic - comes with solid MDF foundation top, reinforced. 

All Tempurpedics have 'airflow' channels.  Single in lower end models,  Dual in higher models. 

I've slept on 2.5 'Sleep Innovations' memory foam topper with gel memory foam and tell you what, it was way hot.  Part of that may have been sinking in far too much, but box said wouldn't sink in because memory foam is high density.  I found different.

Not saying every Tempurpedic would be for you, maybe none.  But if you find the right one, could be great.

My biggest suggestion is don't go too soft with memory foam.  Don't sink in too much.  Don't need a humungous 12" high mattress to get comfort.  Even the 8" thick Cloud, I think will work years for me.  (only time will tell)

Hope that helps.

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #3 Sep 11, 2011 1:23 PM
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Here's my take on memory foam - if it's the right stuff for you, I think it's just about the tops in terms of pressure relieving ability.

Since May, I've had 4 weeks on Stearns and Foster Innerspring, 4 weeks on iComfort Revolution memory foam and 3 weeks on SleepEZ all latex.

Stearns and Foster Innerspring (entry level model) was supportive for sure.  The comfort layers compacted somewhat and it lost some reiliency.  After 4 weeks, it wasn't that great to sleep on all night.  Not so pressure relieving. Was ok but that's it.

With iComfort, I noticed pressure relieving capabilites of memory foam are for real.  Mattress was just too plush for me, sunk in too much, so that ruined the deal.  As mentioned before, the matching box spring was junk and then discovered it has more memory foam piled in than advertised.  Real turn off and pretty much sealed that I won't buy a Serta again.

SleepEZ - 3 layers all latex.  Well, I got it to be pretty good on a good box spring (Stearns and Foster).  The mattress was not good for me on the oft used slatted wood bases.  It firmed up a lot and was really giving pressure into my shoulder.   It was pretty good on the box spring.  We decided to try an adjustable base foundation.  The SleepEZ went south on that foundation.  Typical adjustable bases have solid tops.  Best I figure is latex cannot breathe downwards (pincore holes are vertical) on solid top foundation.  It still had cushiness, but lost its bounciness.  Also, if you have to move the mattress, it's not quite so fun.  Pulling up individual layers out of cover is a bit of a chore.  Boxing them up to move a bit of work too.  Doable, but some work.  Much easier to bag a stiff mattress and move it.  All latex is not rigid.

Keep in mind not everyone is hassling over a Tempurpedic.  This is only a small sample.

I did have a look at Original Mattress Factory site.  If they were around here, I would definitely check them out. 

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #4 Sep 11, 2011 2:20 PM
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I slept on a generic memory foam mattress with a 4"  5.3 lbs memory foam comfort layer for 12 years.

Last four years I have been sleeping on a DIY version of the Tempur Pedic Grand Bed.

Love it.

If I had money to burn I would get either the TP GrandBed II or Royal-Pedic 7 Zone.

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #5 Sep 11, 2011 3:35 PM
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slpngoc,

Looks like our parallel mattress saga continues. I have to say, it makes me feel a bit better knowing that I'm not the only one that can't seem to get it right!

I wish you all the best with the Tempurpedic Cloud and I'm curious to see how it's going for you in a few weeks/months.

Ironically, I think we've both made the move to memory foam most recently. My husband and I finally purchased the Sealy Embody Introspection. It's 3" of memory foam (.5" of 2.5lb & 2.5" of 5lb) over a 7" firm core. It's been about two weeks now and so far I am thrilled with it. Literally zero back pain for two weeks now. I am sleeping great, and I almost look forward to going to bed at night. It's cozy enough to be super comfy, but still pretty firm, with good support.

I liked the Tempurpedic's, but my husband did not. So, we settled on the Sealy Embody. I just hope it holds up over time!

Sorry about your SleepEZ :( I too had such high hopes for the latex from SleepEZ. I really wanted to love it! But, I just couldn't. I never could pinpoint the problem, but we just could not get it right and I was still waking up with a sore back. I know the fun of rolling those layers back up into boxes. HA!

 

Good luck with your Cloud!!!!!

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #6 Sep 11, 2011 4:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2, 2011
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Thanks Dallasgirl !

Glad you're liking the Embody memory foam.  They looked good at Mancini's. 

I can't imagine this Cloud won't work out. Support, it's soft, easy on joints, doesn't seem to sleep hot.  .. finger crossed! 

Yeah, wow, the SleepEZ.  I thought the slatted wood foundation was going to be the cats meow.  done deal.  No siree.  Had to go back to regular box spring where it was pretty good.   Got an adjustable base (they have solid tops) and the latex feel totally changed  - no more bouncy feel. 

Maybe we could win a prize for most experimentation / trying different mattresses.

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #7 Sep 11, 2011 4:58 PM
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Just one last comment for the OP -

Keep in mind some people can't sleep very well on just about anything out there for one reason or another.  Physical ailments, stress, illness, you name it.  A mattress can only do so much for a person.  Can't make a person sleep well. There will always be some people who don't like their Tempurpedics,  or maybe don't like a $15k Hastens bed.  

Far as purchasing goes, I believe most imprtant thing is to get a decent trial period (90 days is good) and no hassle return policy and hopefully no or not too much restocking fee.  If you exchange to another model, I think that next model will be yours for good.    Returning a mattress.  I don't think any normal person wants the hassle of returning a mattress any more than the retailer unless they're just using it for company staying for a while.  

Far as Tempurpedic prices - they charge those prices because they can.  For me, only time will tell if it offers value for the price paid.

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #8 Sep 12, 2011 11:17 AM
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Just a note about the TP Cloud Bed - it became too warm about 2 hours after going to bed.  Was able to adjust by switching to sleep shorts, turning down quilt and sleeping only with top sheet.  Little surprised though.  Only thing I did was eat some chips and drink about 2/3 can root beer about 9pm while watching the 9-11 rememberance special (stressful thing to watch).

I remember getting too warm in the iComfort early on, but at that point, I was using a comforter, not thin quilt. 

So we'll see.  One thing is the store said to walk on the bed with mattress on floor.  I'll be calling TP to verify if that's kosher or not.  TP does warn 'new mattress may feel firmer than one in the store'.  And mine does.  So they say give it a few weeks to 'condition' and adjust to it.  We'll see.

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #9 Sep 12, 2011 11:30 AM
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slpngoc,

 

Was last night your first night on the Cloud?

The first night we got the Embody, I was HOT! I am normally a cold sleeper, but that night I was peeling off layers all night. But- after the first night, it's not been an issue since. Strange!

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #10 Sep 12, 2011 4:27 PM
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Dallasgirl wrote:

slpngoc,

Was last night your first night on the Cloud?

The first night we got the Embody, I was HOT! I am normally a cold sleeper, but that night I was peeling off layers all night. But- after the first night, it's not been an issue since. Strange!

It was 2nd night.  I noticed first night it was a little bit warm.  I got warmer on 2nd night.  Had to get up, change into shorts. After I turned down the quilt, it got better and was able to sleep.

Talked to TP this morning and of course they said excess warmth is from improved circulation. 

Fingers crossed!

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #11 Sep 13, 2011 12:20 PM
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Night 3 was good on the Cloud.  76 F room temp at 11 pm, so a little warm evening.  Shorts and turned quilt halfway down, not too hot.  Support and pressure relief is really good, best so far.

I would imagine there's a couple around here at WTBM who may be a little disappointed that I went over to memory foam from latex, but my situation is unique.  Not many have had shoulder surgery like me, but man, it's a bear when you need to sleep on a shoulder sometimes.  There may be some other types of foam that are more pressure relieving than good memory foam, but so far, the winner for me is memory or Tempur foam.

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #12 Sep 14, 2011 5:29 PM
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I bought a Tempurpedic last month and we love it.  We got the Allura and my wife and i have had no issues at all.  After reading the post on this site i was really worried it would be hot and bad smell.  However, the smell was almost nonexistent to us.  on a scale of 1-10 high being 10 ,i rate smell as being a 1. There was a smell, but it was gone within 24hrs and the smell wasn't bad at all.  As for sleeping hot, i have always slept in boxers only and in this bed i do not feel hot at all.  I will say this thou, we have always had the overhead fan on as we cannot stand a room that has no air flow and we use a normal fan to mask any house noise.  We also use 700TC sheets.  Even w/o the fans i still find myself pulling up the sheets and the bed spared because i still get cold in this bed.  We also have the prodigy adjustable frame and we love having a adjustable bed.  After day one on this bed my back pain was gone and i have to say my posture has improved.  I love this bed and would recommend one to my friends and i would buy one again.                  

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #13 Sep 18, 2011 12:16 PM
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Little more feedback on new Tempurpedic Cloud.  Had it for one week so far.  Doesn't sleep too hot.  It's probably a little bit warmer than the all latex I just came off of, and warmer than an innerspring bed for sure.  But a few adjustments with a thinner quilt instead of comforter, and no problems.  Support is very good.  I don't sink in too much.  Softness and comfort is pretty good - definitely better than a typical innerspring and a little better softness than all latex. 

I would think a Rhapsody bed would have a good combination of not sinking in too much and great pressure relief.  Rhapsody's I've tried with HD foam conform incredibly well which leads to amazing pressure relief. 

With this Cloud, there is still a slight odor coming from the mattress.  I can tell because if I shut the window and door for a few hours, then enter the room, there is a slight odor.  So, I'm really looking forward for that to go away.  I would say that is the downside of the mattress so far.  It doesn't bother me as in, no reaction to the odor.  Of course I hope it is ultimately harmless as they claim. 

If the odor goes away in a couple weeks and it maintains its integrity for 10 years, I'd say it's a winner for sure.  Obviously I'll need 10 years to really know :)

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #14 Sep 19, 2011 10:51 AM
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Little more feedback on Tempurpedic Cloud -

Without a doubt, I can spend much more time laying on my right shoulder with this mattress (old injury / arthro surgery on rt. shoulder years ago).  Last night I was laying and sleeping directly on right shoulder for quite some time.  The only foam I have found so far that will accomodate that is memory foam.  I could lay on right side with iComfort Revolution, but sank in too much, so didn't work over time.  I don't sink in too much on Cloud.

The strange thing is I haven't been feeling so awfully refreshed in the morning, but that could be due to several others factors like stress.  I'm a little concerned about the slight odor that is still coming off the mattress and pillow.  Wondering if I don't want to breathe as freely due to that.  It would be so much better if the things did not smell.  Easily the biggest downside so far.

Far as sleeping hot - was 80 F in the room at 10 pm last night.  Had to turn covers down at first, but was not hot rest of night.

Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #15 Sep 27, 2011 10:40 AM
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I can report that this Tempurpedic (a Cloud) sleeps a little bit warmer, sometimes than other beds like latex or typical innersping beds.  But, it hasn't been a problem.   It's been 80 F in the room (no A/C) a number of times recently, and even that hasn't been a problem.    The only thing I notice is sometimes the mattress is a little bit warmer at contact points and I seem to only notice it when turning over.  That's it.  I don't wake up from being too hot. 

If someone lived in a situation where the room is routinely over 80 F at bedtime, would probably want to skip any memory foam bed.

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #16 Oct 11, 2011 1:52 AM
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I exchanged back the Tempurpedic advanced ergo base today for the fixed foundation.  I don't watch TV or read in bed, so the adjustable base was not necessary.  Thought I might become more of a back sleeper with it, but didn't happen.  Having it adjusted up just made it so couldn't turn to the side.  Distracting to adjust during the night, so, exchanged it.

A Tempurpedic twin XL fixed foundation 9" is heavy!  I peered up throught the bottom fabric, and the top/center surface is fully reinforced as they say. I'd be shocked if it sags a quarter inch.  I don't see how it could.  Appears to be very solid construction, unlike some comments I've heard around here that 'it's the cheapest foundation around'.  I don't see that in what I got.  It looks very sturdy and heavy duty.  It might weight twice as much as the typical S brand 'box spring' sold nowadays.

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Re: Tempurpedic
Reply #17 Oct 12, 2011 1:13 PM
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Night two was fine on the fixed Tempurpedic foundation.  Obviously the mfr. (it's made for Tempurpedic) uses adhesive in the foundation cause it has a slight odor too.  The top is MDF board (medium density fiber ?) and seems very sturdy.  The top / center head to toe is fully supported with wood spine, so I don't think it will sag one bit in the middle.   

So, this twin XL set is $1450 + tax.  A split king would be $2900. Assuming it will maintain its feel for years, I think it is a good value.  As most know, one downside is the odor off Tempurpedic sets.  Being too hot is a complete non-issue.  I think the strongest point is the initial quality of the set.  Hopefully it is long lasting quality too.

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