Topper needed for FBM latex mattress?
Oct 6, 2009 11:40 AM
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It seems most people buy a medium or firm 6" latex core and then add a 2" soft latex topper.  Is the topper really necessary? Or is there a chance the 6" core will be sufficient, perhaps with a soft mattress pad?
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Reply #1 Oct 6, 2009 5:35 PM
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We bought a 6 inch "firm" mattress for our daughter's bed from a local latex mattress shop.  I'm not sure of the exact ILD, but it feels (only) a bit firmer than the 3'' medium topper that I just bought from FBM.  My wife and I have both tried our daughter's mattress and she (a side sleeper) finds it too firm.  I sleep mostly on my stomach and love it. 

I'd think that the 6'' medium from FBM plus 2'' of soft would be very good for most side sleepers.  If you sleep on your back, you might want just the 1'' soft topper and I'd try without a topper if you are a stomach sleeper.  Of course, everyone is different...
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Reply #2 Oct 7, 2009 5:43 AM
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I agree. 32 ILD is certainly sleepable, especially if you like a firmer bed. Try it without the soft topper--you can always order that later if you feel the bed needs something more to make it really cushy.
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Reply #3 Oct 8, 2009 8:41 AM
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A topper is a nice thing to have when it comes to latex mattresses but not required. We're talking about the pure latex of course without any springs, etc. Personally I think it is sleepable without it, but my wife decided she needed a bit of cusion, so we got a simple woll/cotton blend pad. I would go with it bareback day one and see how you feel after a week. You can go anywhere for a pad. We grabbed a cheap $100 and it worked out fine. If you really need more than that then it would be a topper for certain.
Re: Topper needed for FBM latex mattress?
Reply #4 Oct 9, 2009 10:38 AM
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Thanks for the replies. I'll give the 6" medium FBM core a try -- I jazzed that it shipped yesterday and I should have it by Monday.

I'm trying this on our guest bed first before I tackle a bedectomy on our S&F bed that developed major body depressions.
Re: Topper needed for FBM latex mattress?
Reply #5 Oct 9, 2009 4:54 PM
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Twalkman,

How long did it take them to ship out your mattress?  I placed an order with them a few days and it hasnt shipped out yet.

Tuan
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Reply #6 Oct 9, 2009 5:42 PM
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Check with them via email or phone--sometimes they forget to send the shipping confirmation notification!
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Reply #7 Oct 10, 2009 2:26 PM
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Thanks!  Look like they just shipped my mattress.  Should be here next week =D.
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Reply #8 Oct 12, 2009 8:52 PM
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It appears that FBM isn't as real time as some companies. Amazon has spoiled us all.

I ordered it last Tuesday and the mattress arrived today. The cardboard packaging looked horrible, but the mattress was secure inside all the interior plastic wrapping. Thanks to whoever had the original suggestion to open it on the bed. The latex looks good, and there is only a slight odor to my wife and me. It's in the gray and white cover and the size looks perfect.

Even though this is for a guest bed, I'm going to spend some time testing it. The initial impression from laying on it is that I wouldn't think I'd want another soft topper as the mattress already has more give than I'm used to. I've got a couple of inexpensive mattress pads I can try putting on it for just a bit more softness.

I'll report back in a week or so with how it sleeps (Longer will mean that it sleeps fine).
This message was modified Oct 12, 2009 by twalkman
Re: Topper needed for FBM latex mattress?
Reply #9 Oct 18, 2009 8:50 PM
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Usage Update:

I've got the 6" Medium FBM latex on a plywood platform. When I get on the bed I can feel the latex compress all the way to the plywood, but it's not a problem and everything balances out as I stretch out to sleep.

I find the mattress very comfortable and I sleep fine on it. I normally sleep on my side. It feels like I 'sink into" the mattress, but not too much. I added a mattress pad to give a slightly more cushy feel.

My wife, however, is not fully satisfied. She says her hips feel better, but she is getting some lower back pain in the morning. Since this is usually interpreted as a mattress that is too soft, there's really not anything we can do about it. She's only 135 lb, but she has had some lower back problems in the past.

I guess this might be a reason to start off with the firm latex mattress and look to softening it as needed with toppers.
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Reply #10 Oct 18, 2009 9:36 PM
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It sounds like if you are sinking into it, and your wife has back pain, that the medium ILD latex is not offering you enough support.  You might look into getting a few extra layers of xtra firm and firm.  I bet it would make a big difference.  Sleeplikeabear sells individual layers of LI talalay latex.
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Reply #11 Oct 20, 2009 10:29 AM
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Kimberly, does it work to add firmer layers on top of softer layers? I didn't know you could do that.


I'm hoping the problem will go away if my wife goes back to being a side sleeper. She had previously changed to a back sleeper because of the severe body depressions in our S&F mattress.
Re: Topper needed for FBM latex mattress?
Reply #12 Oct 20, 2009 5:43 PM
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I suppose you could, but I was suggesting firmer latex to go under the medium latex you ordered.  Can't you just return the 6" core for a firmer one?
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Reply #13 Oct 21, 2009 4:30 PM
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KimberlyH wrote:
I suppose you could, but I was suggesting firmer latex to go under the medium latex you ordered.  Can't you just return the 6" core for a firmer one?

You could even buy some very firm HR foam or any high quality very firm foam to put under it as a base.
However with 6" of latex core, if it's too soft to give support, there it may not help much. If you had layers of foam, like 2 x 3" layers then you could alter it, but having one 6" layer is difficult to add support to if that's what it needs.
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Reply #14 Oct 23, 2009 8:41 PM
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The 6" latex core sits on a plywood platform so there's no way to make it firmer by putting something under it.

I'm really not into the hassle of packing up a 6" core and mailing it back .  (grimace!)   It would be a gigantic box considering I can't vacumn pack it like the manufacturere.
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Reply #15 Oct 23, 2009 9:00 PM
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Packing up a core of latex for return is easier than you think.  I had to mail back a 2" layer, king size, to Flobeds when they sent me the wrong size by mistake.  Here's how you do it.

1.  Fold the piece of latex into thirds.
2.  Put the latex into the giant plastic bag it came in, or if you no longer have it, you need a really really large plastic bag.
3.  Put your vacuum cleaner hose into the plastic bag, with the hose just barely (I mean BARELY) in between the folded latex.
4.  Twist the plastic bag around the hose.
5.  Start vacuuming.  The air will be vacuumed out of the bag, and out of the latex, and you will be amazed how much it compresses.  It will look just like how it was compressed when it came to you.
6.  Carefully withdraw the vacuum hose, keeping the bag tightly sealed to prevent air from coming back in.
7.  Put the vacuum packed plastic bag of latex into another plastic bag, fold over the ends, and tape it shut with packing tape.

This whole process is unbelievably easy and takes all of 3 minutes.