Well we took the plunge and ordered from Sleep Ez.com their model 10000 Dunlop in two Twin XL and two Reverie Deluxe Adjustable Beds With Wireless Control and Massage in Twin XL from Olejo Stores.com (great prices with lift gate shipping included). The mattresses are due to arrive by UPS this Friday and the adjustable beds next week sometime by freight. Why I went with the sleep Ez is essentially the good ratings, 90 return policy, decent pricing and Shawn who was helpful and patient. If it turns out we can't stand latex we can always return them and look at another route; or if one of us likes it and the other does not that can be remedied as well due to the Twin XL flexibility. I choose XFIRM/FIRM/MEDIUM and the wife choose FIRM/MEDIUM/SOFT in Dunlop. I'll let everyone know how it works out. Although i suspect having slept on memory foam for eight years I may end up adding a M.F. topper later. As for the adjustable beds, it does not take much time in one to realize just how much they can enhance in bed reading and TV activities. Thanks to everyone who assisted, especially Phoenix for all of the advise and coaching. I would have done more testing in stores but my wife made it clear she was not going to spend her holiday time off going to mattress stores and factories with me. Also, I need to get back to my real hobby which is furniture making; this holiday vacation i will be working on two night stands to add to the bedroom suite I have built so far. |
Yes, dunlop can be pretty firm stuff. Personally, I don't think I would like it as the top comfort level. I use talalay and 1-2" of memory foam. So, stick with it a while, and maybe try it with the memory foam as well. My guess is that your wife would probably prefer the top (and possibly middle) layers to be talalay. That might be the case for you as well, but less clear. If it doesn't work after a while, I would consider getting 1 soft and 1 medium layer. Then you will have some more options to try. Changing out your wifes soft for a talalay soft, maybe her medium for a talalay medium, your medium for a medium talalay, etc. They have 100% naturual talalay if you are trying to avoid any synthetic. |
Also FWIW ... the LG soft is listed on the Latex Green website as 13-18 kgf which would translate into 28-40 lbf. The testing method may be slightly different from ILD but it would be significantly firmer than soft Talalay or even most medium Talalay. Phoenix |
You say you have a wood slat foundation but why do you need a foundation if you are using the adjustable beds?..
Do the adjustable beds not serve as the foundation? |
Bahstonsox..............The adjustable beds arrive next week, so I am using the bed the way it is currently set-up which is with slats... It's weird, I just got done building the bed frame and spending an extra $120 on the poplar for the slats, only to decide on an adjustable a few weeks later. So when the platforms arrive out come the slats. |
Gotcha.. Two twins are basically just a split king more or less right?.. |
Two Twin Xl's (not twins) approximate the size of a Eastern king. What sold us on separate adjustable beds is the ability for them to operate independently; it's unlikely you would both be comfortable in exactly the same positions, and even if that is so if your active minor pulls and strains will dictate otherwise from time to time. We in our 50's and married for 33 years, even so the idea of separates struck an emotional response initially as we viewed it as a potential to interfere with intimacy. I suspect this will not be the case, at least not if I have anything to say about it :) This message was modified Dec 20, 2010 by Bioman
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Well the Riviera Deluxe adjustable Twins arrived today. It takes two people to set one of these up, they are pretty heavy so avoid doing this alone if you can (this is one of those times I am actually happy that I have young adults still living with me :). The beds seem to be well constructed, although I would have preferred a hard wired control to a wireless, simply harder to misplace. The price from Olejo was very reasonable and included shipping to curbside with gate-lift; although the semi driver wanted me to meet him five miles away and load them into my pickup truck so he did not have to take his truck into a residential area; we had words and he came to the house to make delivery. ;). The Deluxe bed and the Sleep Ez 10000 mattress are a very comfortable combination. In particular I like the Deluxe bed zero gravity position feature(back slightly elevated with feet slightly higher) , this is a very comfortable setting for watching TV. I also like the zero headwall clearance feature which when elevating the head end of the bed, retracts the foot end so your upper torso stays in a relative position to your nightstand. A nice side benefit, at least for me, is that when returning the bed to a flat position ( a single button push feature) my upper and lower torso are pulled slightly in opposite directions as the foot of the mattress retracts. This has the effect of gently stretching my spine which feels really nice. Just a note on the vibrating massage feature, although it is nice I imagine you would get more out of it with an inner spring or an air bed as I suspect the latex and likely to a greater degree memory foam damp the effects; all in all its still pretty nice. So far we are both sleeping well. My wife was less achy this morning than her first few nights on the Sleep Ez 10000. I on the other hand was just the slightest bit sore this morning. Hard to attribute this to the mattress at this point, as this week I am on vacation and working quite a bit in my woodshop; so slight pulls and strains are the norm from lifting heavy planks of lumber, bending over equipment, awkward angles etc. One thing I am noticing, is that I am not waking up in the night with my arms and hands falling asleep as I was on the previous worn inner spring/worn memory foam combination. The latex seems to be pretty good at pressure reduction. I will keep assessing the mattress and give periodic progress updates. |
Well if you want the Readers Digest version here it is....we absolutely love it.... We have now been sleeping on our SleepEz 10000 Twin XL's for around 30 days. My wife needed to swap her top layer from a soft Dunlop to a Soft Talalay after a week, since then is has been perfect for her. Here is what we are both experiencing. Were sleeping longer each night (Well I am at any rate, my wife has always slept between 10 and 12, now I am going between 8 and 10 compared to previously 5 to 7). Were sleeping cooler each night (more comfortable) I no longer have daily back pain, it is largely gone (I have had daily back pain for at least the past 8 years). The firmness of the Dunlop seems to have done the trick for me as it appears my issues with the last coil/MF combination was based on a lack of adequate4 support.. What I have that seems a bit worse is a deadening sensation I have been getting in one of my legs. My doctor says this is a nerve pinching. It seems a bit worse than it was ion the memory foam. At that time I would get the numbness when I lay on my back for more than 10 or so minutes, now I get it after 5 or so minutes and I am getting it during the day. So I am wondering if it is time to try a memory foam topper. I was looking at a Sensus 5.3lb 2" thick topper on sale now at Sleep Warehouse for around $200 with a Bamboo cover and a free MF pillow shipping included. I am hoping to get some of the superior benefits of MF pressure relief while still retaining the support characteristics of the Dunlop. My tow concerns are will I loose the great support to get the pressure relief and will I sleep warmer, but I guess i'll just have to try it to find out. Open to any helpful suggestions or observations. PS, the Reverie beds have lead to a serious addiction of reading and watching TV in bed....buyer beware.... |
I would be a little cautious about adding 2" of memory foam. I find that is okay for me on a pretty firm innerspring, but when I have tried in on current configuration (with 3" of latex over coils), I have found 2" of memory too soft. You might find it hotter as well. I currently use 1" of 19ILD blended latex over 1" of 5.9lb. memory foam as my top 2" of comfort layers. That is a bit more supportive and a little cooler too (I believe). So, you may want to consider adding 1" Sensus from Overstock. You can then decide if you want 1" more of that or something else. That gives you more flexibilty, but of course it is nicer to have 1 2" piece if that is what you eventually end up with. It is also possible that two 1" pieces might feel a little different than 1 2" piece. Unfortunately with a twin, you cannot do a fold in half. However, on Overstock the King pieces cost the same as twin, so I would buy a 1" King and cut it in 2 pieces.
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Good idea. This would allow me to try it several different ways to see what works best. |