What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Dec 4, 2009 9:23 AM
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Hello to everyone. Ok, so I have been through a Sealy memory foam bed (softened up too much and caused low back pain for me>>>returned) then a Temperpedic (too firm, caused shoulder pain and numbness>>>returned) then a Sealy Purembrace latex (worst of all, the indentations myself and my husband left after only  a few months were unacceptable - felt like sleeping in a hole, and caused back pain and tossing and turning>>>hoping to sell). Which leads me to bed #4 - cheapest Simmons bed at Macys, listed as a firm but with the softer gauge wires. Actually doesn'f feel too bad alone, but not the feel I want so I bought it  with the intention of getting a topper.  I purchased an Aerus 2.5" memory foam topper from Sam's Club, which is 5# foam. This is the problem now: the topper just does not seem like memory foam on the bed. I don't get the "sinking into it" feeling that I like from memory foam. (But not sinking too much!)  I have tried using the bamboo cover that came with the topper, and even flipped it over to use the thin sheet-like underside facing up, but no difference, really,  It doesn't seem to respond like the old memory foam topper I had (no idea what the specs were on that one.) I was hoping it would feel close to the Sealy memory foam bed, or the Temperpedic, or at least like my old topper felt when it was new. So, my question is, did I buy too heavy of foam? Do I need softer memory foam? Or do I need a thicker topper? I'm lost at this point and am hoping for some suggestions.....
Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #1 Dec 4, 2009 11:27 AM
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So, you are saying that you don't sink in to it?  What does it feel like?  If you push down on it with your hand, does it sink in an leave a temporary impression like normal memory foam?  I would say that the Aerus is suppose to be eco friendly and cooler.  So, maybe they have changed the manufacturing process so much that it no longer acts the same as "regular" memory foam.   Maybe it will soften up with a little time.  How long have you been using it?

I have tried the Sensus (also 5 lb.s made by the same company - Foamex) and mem-cool from overstock.com, and they seem like normal memory foam.  I would think that 5 lb density should be fine for most people.  That is what Tempurpedic uses as well.  However, I think you will get more sinking in feeling if you go with lower density like 4 or 3 lb.  Your old one was probably lower density (most are).

I think you are going to have to try something else to compare.  Maybe you can buy something else at Sam's or Costco to compare to it.  Unfortunately  this whole process seems to be trial and error.

Thanks for your review.  I was actually thinking of trying that foam as well, but they did not have queen size at Sam's online.  Does it seem cooler than your old memory foam?  That is the feature I am mainly interested in.

Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #2 Dec 4, 2009 12:02 PM
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Hey, thanks for your comments sandman. I actually needed the queen as well, but got the king and figured I'd cut it down. It *does* seem cooler to me - cooler than my other topper and definitely cooler than the Sealy or Tempurpedic beds as well. However, I'm not sure if this is a result of my not sinking into it as I did with the other MF, or if it's the foam itself. This topper is a bit odd in that, when it was on the floor airing out, it definitely would shape around my hand like I thought it should do. But it also seemed very soft, at least as soft as my old topper that was headed for the trash. I'm not sure how to describe it on the bed - we don't sink into it, but it feels cushiony, just not the 'body imprint' kind of effect I was hoping for. Almost more like latex in a way. Just odd. We've only had it (and the bed) for a week, and the topper on the bed about five nights. As a side note, the cover is a true pain to put on the topper, but it's  very nice quality - much like the covers on the Tempurpedic beds.

I'm hoping to purchase something that I can return without having to ship, so that pretty much is limiting me to local stores and their online selections. I'm not sure if maybe I should try to find the 8#  topper, or maybe as you said, go down to the 3# or 4#.

ETA: the recovery time is very fast when I used my hand on it - it doesn't hold the shape very long at all which is different from the MF beds and my old topper.
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Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #3 Dec 4, 2009 12:55 PM
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It sounds like part it might be the new technology they are using.  To make it eco friendly and cooler they have to make some changes to the manufacturing process.   If it feels soft and your hand sinks in, then your body weight must also make it sink in a certain amount.  So, I think it must just feel different (maybe firmer with more support) than you are use to.  Possibly because of the higher density than you used before.   Maybe the new technology makes it spring back faster like latex.  Not sure if your new mattress (being firmer?) might be affecting your perception as well.  Try it on another mattress, if you have one, to see if that affects it.

Otherwise, it sounds like you might need a different type or density of memory foam.  I know the Aeurus also comes in 4lb. and 3 lbs.  I think Wal-mart carries some of those.  The Sensus is 5# as well, but I found it hotter than most.  It seemed "normal" to me. Costco sells some nutra-temp ones (returnably), but I think only 3".  Overstock has a variety but must be shipped and probably not returnable.  I have the mem-cool 4# and that seems like normal memory foam.  I tend to find that I sink in too much in the lower density memory foams (perhaps I weigh more than you), so I kind of like the support of the 5# ones.

Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #4 Dec 4, 2009 1:22 PM
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Where I am getting confused is the Tempurpedic bed we had had the "HD" foam on top - it was only 1.2-inches but it is listed as being 7# foam. Maybe the Sealy and the TP are more heat sensitive than this topper? Geez. I don't even know anymore, lol.
Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #5 Dec 4, 2009 1:52 PM
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Possibly it is less heat sensitive due to the way they make it.  It is suppose to be cooler, but that may affect how it reacts to heat as well.
Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #6 Feb 2, 2010 7:00 AM
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I'm glad I found your conversation.
I bought a momory foam topper from overstock a week ago. For a while  I've been having trouble sleeping and I bough into the whole "sleeping like a baby" sales pitch. But after a week of using the foam, I haven't been able to enjoy a good night sleep. I bough a Sealys Queens size foam, 4 inch, 3 pound density. But when I sleep I feel my lower back sinking while my upper and lower body are higher up (like a concave arch).
What do you suggest I do? Should I try a higher density topper?
Thanks
Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #7 Feb 2, 2010 11:02 AM
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Your memory foam is probably too thick and not dense enough.  Memory foam does not provide a lot of support, so you will sink in too far where your greatest amount of weight is.  If you sleep on your side (or possibly back), that is probably your hips.

You are better off with 4-5 lb. density and 1-2".  The thing to do is probably to buy 1", if that is not enough, buy another inch, etc.  A bit more expensive that way, but you have much greater flexibility.  

For more support though you should consider a latex topper.  Those can be both firmer and higher density than memory foam.  However, it does not fee as plush or mold to the body the same way.  So, you might want 1" of latex with 1" of memory foam over it, if you are not totally happy with the feel of latex.  But you should try the latex by itself first.

Unfortunately, trial and error is the only way you can figure out what will be best for you.

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Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #8 Feb 2, 2010 3:20 PM
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Note that for some people memory foam just does not work in any #lb density or form.

If you think you may be one of those, try a very soft latex, like Talalay 24ILD or so. Maybe 1.5". Or two x 1" layers is even better, that gives you options of using only one or one latex and one memory foam or two latexes and one memory foam... etc.
Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #9 Feb 4, 2010 8:31 PM
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Thank you for the reply. Since Overstock won't accept the topper back. What options do I have? Would using the latex topper on top of the memory foam help?
Re: What am I doing wrong re: memory foam topper?
Reply #10 Feb 4, 2010 8:43 PM
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I'm afraid Jackson has left the forum.
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