Who has the cheapest Dunlop latex in 1-2" thickness?
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I've searched the net and this forum and have not found a clear answer to this: Who sells Dunlop latex in 1" to 3" thicknesses? Does anyone with a return or exchange policy sell Dunlop latex? So far about all I've found is full mattresses cores... Just found this: Can someone look at the picture and tell me : isn't this Dunlop latex? I didn't see anywhere in the description that it says Dunlop but as I recall, it looks like Dunlop... no? but it says "natural" latex... http://www.absolutecomfortonsale.com/latexfoam.htm#prices This message was modified Feb 3, 2008 by jimsocal
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I wrote FoamSweetHome and this is what they told me about their Dunlop. It's definitely more than I want to pay. We only have 3” in a Twin XL, the cost is $350. I saw this on another site, though. Cheaper prices and I thought I heard that Natural Sense is made with the Dunlop process. Does anyone know if this is true? http://www.foamorder.com/mattress_pads.html jimsocal wrote: I've searched the net and this forum and have not found a clear answer to this:<p>Who sells Dunlop latex in 1" to 3" thicknesses? Does anyone with a return or exchange policy sell Dunlop latex?</p><p>So far about all I've found is full mattresses cores...</p><p>Just found this: Can someone look at the picture and tell me : isn't this Dunlop latex? I didn't see anywhere in the description that it says Dunlop but as I recall, it looks like Dunlop... no? but it says "natural" latex...</p><p>http://www.absolutecomfortonsale.com/latexfoam.htm#prices |
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I just found this one: http://www.northernnaturals.com/latex_mattress_topper.html It is Dunlop and they say it is ILD 24. For Dunlop, would that be enough for the lower back zone? Probably not, eh? Dang, the prices aren't bad either if you get a King and cut it in half for 2 twins... But I need the Dunlop for my midsection zone... so I am guessing I'll want something more like a 30-36 ILD, no? |
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There is also this website, that was mentioned by mattressmom in an earlier thread: http://organicselections.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=127_41 They carry 2 inch toppers in both soft (20-27) and medium (28-38) ILDs. I am looking at these if the Brylane Talalay topper doesn't work out. I think mattressmom ordered a piece for her daughter to sleep on from this company, so maybe she can weigh in on what the quality is like (and where it is made). Another pretty good price on 100% natural (Dunlop) latex, is: https://www.sleepwarehouse.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=35 I e-mailed them and they said that their latex was manufactured by a company out of Malaysia... This message was modified Feb 4, 2008 by kimmcgov
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I've been searching for a Dunlop topper too, and with an added requirement--blended. The few Dunlop toppers, or even full cores all seem to be natural Asian (Sri Lankan, Malaysian etc.) I'm just not convinced of the quality control of "jungle" latex. It's really a shame everyone seems to have jumped gung-ho on the Talalay wagon. Dunlop is just so much more comfortable. Jim-- 24 ILD is pretty soft, although in Dunlop not quite as soft as Talalay. In a 1 or 2 inch size it might make a nice top layer, but it would not give you much mid-back support. You are correct in that you should be looking for something in the 30 to 36 range, but bear in mind, Dunlop has a firmer, more solid feel than a comparable Talalay ILD, so you might want to err a bit on the softer side, unless you are really looking for something very firm under your hips. |
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Reminder: Foamsource (Boulder, CO) is/was closing out some 2" zoned dunlop toppers. Foamsource is a very reputable seller, and belongs on anyone's short list. |
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We are very happy with the two six inch Dunlop cores in medium we got from Organic Selections - which they say is around 32 ILD. I got a twin for my 13 year old daughter and a twin XL for my 17 year old 74 inch 180 pound son who had been sleeping on a 75 inch full size bed. The kids are very different sizes but are both happy with the firmness - which Organic Selections says is their most popular. They were vacuum packed - shipped directly from the supplier in Cerritos, CA. From the description, it sounds like the latex is Sleep Comp's NaturaLux. One side is slightly firmer than the other side - just like the three inch layers on our Savvy Rest mattress. We put the soft side up. Personally, I wouldn't like anything softer than this medium core over a solid foundation. The kids' six inch cores feel very much like our Savvy Rest mattress as currently configured. I wasn't concerned about their return policy because I was very sure about what we wanted for my daughter. I had my son try her bed before we ordered the second one for him. The quality is excellent, well packaged, no smells or weirdness of any kind. I figured if things didn't go well, we are close enough to the retailer in rural Iowa, we could have returned it in person. Although I didn't get a UPS tracking number, both mattresses were shipped from CA the day after I ordered them and arrived in Wisconsin exactly a week after I placed the orders. If you have concerns, you could call the toll free number. Very nice people to deal with but be sure to ask for the person who knows about the latex. Their prices were the best I found but I didn't spend lots of time looking. They said they'd match prices if you found the same thing cheaper somewhere else. This is their return policy - "If you are not satisfied with your order, please contact us within 2 weeks by email: organicorder@lisco.com and we will arrange a replacement, or exchange; or if the item is in new condition, a refund for the full merchandise amount." This message was modified Feb 4, 2008 by mattressmom
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Part of the description of the six inch cores includes; "Available in both a traditional pincore design, or with an innovative "5 Zone" pincore design for added comfort and lumbar support. Manufactured by a plant that is ISO 9001 certified, the mark of excellence and consistency in any industry." It sounds like you could custom order a zoned core if you ask about it. We got the plain pincore version. Here's Sleep Comp's site: http://www.sleepcomp.com/ http://www.sleepcomp.com/sc1-naturalux.html |
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cloud9, you might want to seek out Sleep Comp's blended Dunlop "Duratex" described below. I have no clue where you'd find it. Maybe you could contact Sleep Comp. http://www.sleepcomp.com/sc1-duratex.html "DURATEX A precision blend of natural and synthetic latex. Specially engineered for optimum resilience and durability. This product is poured using the Dunlop process and features our unique "3 Zone" pincore design for added lumbar support. Also available with our exclusive "side rail track" edge support system. Extra firm, high density polyfoam rails laminated to a solid latex core allow you to offer a plusher sleeping surface without sacrificing a clean firm edge." |
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mccldwll wrote: Reminder:<BR>Foamsource (Boulder, CO) is/was closing out some 2" zoned dunlop toppers. Foamsource is a very reputable seller, and belongs on anyone's short list. Cloud9, You might want to take a look at this. I wrote to Matt at Foamsource and he told me the Nu-rest topper comes from a company named Arpico. It's 15% natural and 85% synthetic. I think the zoning is 22-28-22 ILD. It is another one I'm considering, but wondering if the 28 ILD would be enough pressure relief for my hips (as a side sleeper). Mattress mom seems the most familiar with Dunlop. What does she think? |
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BeddyBye wrote: I wrote FoamSweetHome and this is what they told me about their Dunlop. It's definitely more than I want to pay.<BR><BR>We only have 3” in a Twin XL, the cost is $350.<BR><BR>I saw this on another site, though. Cheaper prices and I thought I heard that Natural Sense is made with the Dunlop process. Does anyone know if this is true? <BR><BR>http://www.foamorder.com/mattress_pads.html About their toppers,Foamorder says: "You may add comments to your shopping cart to switch to a Talalay style latex for an additional 20%." Which must mean the ones you see there on the web site are Dunlop... |
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<BR> kimmcgov wrote: Cloud9,<BR><BR>You might want to take a look at this. I wrote to Matt at Foamsource and he told me the Nu-rest topper comes from a company named Arpico. It's 15% natural and 85% synthetic. I think the zoning is 22-28-22 ILD. It is another one I'm considering, but wondering if the 28 ILD would be enough pressure relief for my hips (as a side sleeper). Mattress mom seems the most familiar with Dunlop. What does she think?<BR> Arpico is a major Dunlop supplier from Sri Lanka - probably the biggest of the reputable suppliers. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Take a look at the web sites for Arpico, Latexco, Dunlopillo, Latex International and Sleep Comp. http://www.arpico.com/ I don't really know that much about the Dunlop manufacturers. I just know the big names and that I like to sleep on an ILD around the mid to low 30's. A 22-28-22 topper sounds too soft for me. It is probably perfect for someone else. I'm not really sure what jungle Dunlop means. I'm guessing that bad jungle Dunlop latex is no name Asian latex with a lot of cheap fillers and impurities. All raw natural latex comes from rubber trees in South Asia. The difference is where and how it's processed - and what it's mixed with. Personally, I trust the big name Dunlop manufacturers more than I trust Sealy, Simmons and Serta. Who knows what's in their products?? SleepEZ lists these suppliers. Scroll down to the chart. http://www.sleepez.com/suppliers.htm From what I can piece together, these are the major reputable suppliers and the mattress companies like SleepEZ buy whatever they can get the best price on - unless they explicitly say something like "blended Talalay from Latex International". I feel like I have to trust that the mattress company is careful about where they get their latex. I don't really have any way to judge the quality of their sources. I look at the reputation of the company selling the product to me. I look at what else they sell and what their company emphasis seems to be. For example, FoamSource.com has a good reputation and has been around for a while. They charge fair prices - not necessarily bargain basement prices. (The Nu-rest toppers are listed at close out prices and not available in all sizes - that's different.) They wouldn't risk their reputation by selling junky latex even if it meant charging lower prices. At least that's how I look at it. Other people might not be as trusting. I wouldn't buy cheap latex from a place that doesn't display the content and/or source of their latex in some way (*cough* foambymail.com *cough*) but I was comfortable with the places I ended up buying from. Short of doing a chemical analysis myself, I have to trust what the mattress suppliers tell me. Most of the information I have seen about natural Dunlop is that it is around 90-95% pure tree sap with the rest made up of residual by-products of the manufacturing process. I would bet that the natural latex component of blended and natural Latex International Talalay isn't much different. I think if you stick with reputable mattress retailers who presumably get their materials from reputable suppliers, you are probably OK. If they screw up and get a bad batch of latex - you'd take it up with them, not the latex manufacturer. Organic Selections lists the following contents for their NaturaLux latex, which is pretty standard for what most places call 100% natural latex. It's not really 100% pure latex but the term seems to mean it isn't blended with petroleum products or mixed with cheap fillers. Contents: Natural Latex Rubber 90-95% Zinc Oxide 2-3% Fatty Acid Soaps 1-2% Sulfur 1-2% (bakes out completely during processing) Sodium 1-2% I am wary of places that sell complete mattresses a lot cheaper than the competition. I wonder where they are cutting corners. At the other end of the spectrum - I take the claims of the manufacturers of extremely expensive "Organic" mattresses with a very large grain of salt. They get their latex from the same places every one else does. They might have slightly nicer cover components but they aren't worth double or more what the other guys are selling - at least not to me. I am willing to spend a little more to get a higher quality product but only within reason. Remember that if the price is too good to be true - it probably is..... I'd be more concerned about prices that were insanely low than a bit higher than average. The other thing to remember is that the shift to interest in latex mattresses is relatively new in the US - or at least revived from days gone by. There aren't that many suppliers and retailers compared to traditional spring coil mattresses. The vast majority of Americans still buy Sealy, Serta, Simmons and their clones. Latex mattresses have been growing in popularity but they are still a tiny segment of the mattress market. They are more popular in Europe than here. My experience was that local mattress retailers didn't know nearly as much about the two or three latex mattresses they had on display as they did about the zillion permutations and price points of their spring coil mattresses. This message was modified Feb 4, 2008 by mattressmom
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mccldwll wrote: Reminder: Foamsource (Boulder, CO) is/was closing out some 2" zoned dunlop toppers. Foamsource is a very reputable seller, and belongs on anyone's short list. Thanks for this. I had looked at this before and it is on my short list, but it doesn't say what the ILD's are of the topper. Have you by any chance asked? I'm going to call or write them to find out. It's a pretty good price and if the zoning is the right ILD for my back I may buy it and chop it up for my own component system zoning. That is, if the zones are all relatively firm, I could try both the firm zone and the less firm zone under my hips, or use the firm zone under my hips, and use a softer zone from something else under my shoulders. |
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But, they're out of stock on the size I want (XL Twin.) In fact, they're out of other sizes, too. I called and asked when they expected to have it in again. Not sure. :( mccldwll wrote: Reminder:<BR>Foamsource (Boulder, CO) is/was closing out some 2" zoned dunlop toppers. Foamsource is a very reputable seller, and belongs on anyone's short list. |
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Looks like foamorder.com has about the best deal for what I want to do... that is, order pieces for zoning. I have to call them to make SURE it's Dunlop, but if it is I think I'll order 2 pieces for zones - one medium and one firm - from them. Here's their price for custom cut latex: $66.81 for soft medium or firm - 31, 37 or 44 ILD.  RectangleModify dimensions Width: 37 in Depth: 25 in Thickness: 2 in BUT I just saw this: "The latex sold in this section (custom cut to order) is Talalay latex. While it doesn't have any fire retardants added, it is made from a blend of synthetic and natural latex. If you are interested in 100% natural latex we can quote this for you by email. 100% natural latex is all priced according to how many mattress size pieces you need and there is a minimum of one mattress." So, it sounds like they won't cut Dunlop to custom shapes and sizes. Dang. The prices above apparently are for Talalay... Though I'll call to confirm. But , the guy where I bought my custom cut HR foam today said he would call and give me a price for custom-cut Dunlop, so I'll see what he comes up with. Otherwise, at least you guys have helped me narrow down the playing field, if I do need to buy via the net... Thanks. This message was modified Feb 4, 2008 by jimsocal
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jimsocal wrote: Thanks for this. I had looked at this before and it is on my short list, but it doesn't say what the ILD's are of the topper. Have you by any chance asked? Jim, Read my post above. I DID ask them. It is 22-28-22. |
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kimmcgov wrote: Jim, Read my post above. I DID ask them. It is 22-28-22. I wrote them before I saw this post. Finally they got back to me and they told me it is 24 - 30- 24. So it appears they are guessing. And all they have left is the Queen size. I wanted a twin or a king (to cut in half if it was cheaper than 2 twins). Since it's zoned, the Queen would be a waste of money for me. If I cut it to twin size, the piece left over would be basically wasted. Weird, though: I looked all over the net, and found NO ONE ELSE selling this topper! This message was modified Feb 6, 2008 by jimsocal
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Well, this one seems to win the prize for the cheapest Dunlop processed topper in 1-2" thickness. AND free shipping. Total price for a Twin size 2" "medium firm" 26ILD is $154.95. https://www.sleepwarehouse.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=35&strVarSel=578,584,590&strCompare= SleepWarehouse 100% Natural Latex mattress topper pads at extremely competitive pricing! Latex toppers are available in 2, 3 and 4 inch thick configurations in a Medium-Soft 16-18 ILD 4.75 lb density and our all new Medium-Firm 26 ILD 5.2 lb density toppers. All latex pads are cut to full mattress sizing. Our latex toppers are manufactured via the Dunlop process resulting in a high quality, most supportive and comfortable latex toppers available. No harmful additives, just 100% all natural latex. ****My only question now is: Is a 26ILD firm enough for the hip layer in a mattress? Even though Dunlop is "firmer" than Talalay? This message was modified Feb 6, 2008 by jimsocal
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I bought my 4 lbs. 2" memory foam topper through SleepWarehouse. Too bad I couldn't trade it for a 2" latex topper! :) I had bought my memory foam topper through Amazon.com, but it came from SleepWarehouse. It was less expensive at Amazon. Too bad they didn't have the latex cheaper, too. jimsocal wrote: Well, this one seems to win the prize for the cheapest Dunlop processed topper in 1-2" thickness. AND free shipping. Total price for a Twin size 2" "medium firm" 26ILD is $154.95.<BR><BR>https://www.sleepwarehouse.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=35&strVarSel=578,584,590&strCompare=<BR><p><font size="2" face="Arial">SleepWarehouse 100% Natural Latex mattress topper pads at extremely competitive pricing! Latex toppers are available in 2, 3 and 4 inch thick configurations in a Medium-Soft 16-18 ILD 4.75 lb density and our all new Medium-Firm 26 ILD 5.2 lb density toppers. </font></p> <p><font size="2" face="Arial">All latex pads are cut to full mattress sizing. Our latex toppers are manufactured via the Dunlop process resulting in a high quality, most supportive and comfortable latex toppers available. No harmful additives, just 100% all natural latex.</font></p><p>****My only question now is: Is a 26ILD firm enough for the hip layer in a mattress? Even though Dunlop is "firmer" than Talalay?<br type="_moz"/> |
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Just got this back from foamorder.com , F.Y.I.: "Our 100% natural latex and natural pads are Dunlop processed. Our "soft" pads have around a 25 ILD. We do have the following in Clearance: I assume this means they can cut various ILD's and thicknesses of Dunlop but I don't know that for sure yet. If they can cut various densities, this will be the best source, for me. So with Dunlop, now, should I buy 2 x 1" layers or One 2" layer? Will the 2x1" layers feel softer than the one x 2" layer? How much softer, if at all? |
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I don't understand the difference between these two XL Twin 2" natural latex (Dunlop) toppers they offer...except for the price. One is a lot less money. The one below is $116. The clearance one is $174.16 (medium). But the 3" one is the same price with different ILD options. 2" Solid NaturalSense™ 100% Natural Latex Mattress Pad This is a soft mattress pad. Long twin size (38x80): Optional cotton cover $116.00 ************************************************** Clearance: 100% natural latex foam mattress pad 2" thick, long twin size (38x80), medium density. This is not a normal stock item for us, but it is on hand and ready to ship! This is a brand new piece. Original retail price $174.16 $174.16 ************************************************************************************* 3" Long twin size (38x80): $174.16 SoftMediumFirmExtra firm ******************************************************************* jimsocal wrote: Just got this back from foamorder.com , F.Y.I.:</p><p>"Our 100% natural latex and natural pads are Dunlop processed. Our "soft" pads have around a 25 ILD. We do have the following in Clearance:<BR><BR>100% natural latex foam mattress pad 2" thick, long twin size (38x80), medium density. This is not a normal stock item for us, but it is on hand and ready to ship! This is a brand new piece. price $174.16.<BR><BR><strong>We can custom cut 100% natural Dunlop latex. A piece that is 37x25x1 is $33.13.</strong><BR><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you have further questions, please feel free to contact us directly by phone at 859-971-2531 (Mon.-Fri. 9-6, Sat. 12-6 Eastern Time) or by e-mail at </span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><a rel="nofollow"><font color="#003399">rodney.stewart@foamorder.com</font></a></span><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> "</span></font></p><p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I assume this means they can cut various ILD's and thicknesses of Dunlop but I don't know that for sure yet. If they can cut various densities, this will be the best source, for me.</span></font></p><p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">So with Dunlop, now, should I buy 2 x 1" layers or One 2" layer? Will the 2x1" layers feel softer than the one x 2" layer? How much softer, if at all?</span></font> |
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BeddyBye wrote: I don't understand the difference between these two XL Twin 2" natural latex (Dunlop) toppers they offer...except for the price. One is a lot less money. The one below is $116. The clearance one is $174.16 (medium). But the 3" one is the same price with different ILD options. <BR><BR>2" Solid NaturalSense™ 100% Natural Latex Mattress Pad<BR>This is a soft mattress pad.<BR><BR> Long twin size (38x80): <BR>Optional cotton cover $116.00<BR>**************************************************<BR>Clearance:<BR> <BR>100% natural latex foam mattress pad 2" thick, long twin size (38x80), medium density. This is not a normal stock item for us, but it is on hand and ready to ship! This is a brand new piece. Original retail price $174.16 $174.16 <BR>*************************************************************************************<BR> 3" Long twin size (38x80): <BR> $174.16<BR> SoftMediumFirmExtra firm <BR> ******************************************************************* I think foamorder.com normally only sells 2" natural latex in soft. They happen to have some 2" medium and have listed it on the clearance page even though they are charging full price because there is no other place to list it in their regular format. They always charge more for firmer latex - and other foam. I also notice that Organic Selections has gotten rid of a lot of the latex topper choices they had just last week. They only have 6 inch cores and 2" toppers in soft. I wonder what is going on.... |
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jimsocal wrote: Just got this back from foamorder.com , F.Y.I.: "Our 100% natural latex and natural pads are Dunlop processed. Our "soft" pads have around a 25 ILD. We do have the following in Clearance: I assume this means they can cut various ILD's and thicknesses of Dunlop but I don't know that for sure yet. If they can cut various densities, this will be the best source, for me. So with Dunlop, now, should I buy 2 x 1" layers or One 2" layer? Will the 2x1" layers feel softer than the one x 2" layer? How much softer, if at all?
"Mike, All three cushions will cost $64.64 a piece. Shipping is extra. The soft will be around a 25 ILD and the medium will be around a 30 ILD. The cushions would be non-returnable. It takes us 10-14 days to get an order ready for shipping. The price of $33.13 only included the price of the foam itself. It did not include the price of the actually cutting of the cushions. So, basically, they are charging $31 per piece to cut the foam!!??? PLUS shipping! And not returnable. This is an outrageous charge for cutting foam. The place I get my HR foam cuts it for free. I will not be ordering from formaorder.com |
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| Just as well. It was a rip off at $33 (that's $100 for a 1" twin; $300 for 3" twin; $600 for a 3" king. |
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mccldwll wrote: Just as well. It was a rip off at $33 (that's $100 for a 1" twin; $300 for 3" twin; $600 for a 3" king.
So then I am stuck buying an entire Twin topper and cutting it up into 3 and in order to get 2 ILD's I have to then buy 2 different twin toppers. The cheapest I've found so far is the ebay sellers but their topper is 2-and-3/4" thick and I don't really want that thick of a topper, all in one ILD. I'd get the zoned Natura(?) topper on sale at ? but they only have it in Queen size which would mean a lot of cutting and odd pieces leftover... |