why are tempurpedic prices so high
May 5, 2010 6:23 PM
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why are tempupedic mattresses so high in prices?

What is the profit margin for them? Thanks.

This message was modified May 5, 2010 by firstposter
Re: why are tempurpedic prices so high
Reply #1 May 5, 2010 6:57 PM
Location: L.A. area
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firstposter wrote:

why are tempupedic mattresses so high in prices?

What is the profit margin for them? Thanks.


Not sure what the profit margin is. I doubt anyone but a T. Dealer would know.

However, it has to be high because foam is not that expensive to produce, not even a high end foam like Tempurpedic.

Of course, their sales depend largely on advertising which they do a TON of, so you're paying for that. They advertise in almost every magazine I pick up, they advertise on the net, they advertise more than any other mattress retailer by far (that's an educated guess, not a fact, but...) In any case, I would bet you that THAT is why their prices are so high.

Re: why are tempurpedic prices so high
Reply #2 May 5, 2010 9:12 PM
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Jim's mostly right.  I can tell you first hand (atleast in Canada) that the margin on Tempur products is not really all that spectacular for retailers.  Now....for the manufacturer it might be higher than average but the advertising doesn't help their bottom line. 
Re: why are tempurpedic prices so high
Reply #3 May 7, 2010 11:00 AM
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Tempurpedic is actually a public company, so you can see how much money they make.

 

 

From their total sales of $831 Million

$437 Mil. (52.5%) goes into the cost of making, shipping, etc.

$153 Mil. (18.4%) goes into selling/marketing

$95 Mil. (11.4%) goes into General administrative overhead expenses

$17 Mil. (2.0%) goes to interest expense on debt

$128 Mil. (15.4%) is their profit before income taxes.

$43 Mil. (5.2%) goes to income taxes

$85 Mil. (10.2%) is net profit

 

So, for a company like this, it is pretty profitable.  But, the profits are not as huge as you might think given the selling price.  A bit more than half of what they sell it for goes to the cost of making it.  Their gross profit is bigger than Sealy from what I have seen, and they spend more on marketing.  They are not as loaded up on debt, so less money goes to pay interest expense.

TP's net profit margin after all expenses and taxes is about 10%, compared to about 1% for Sealy.

This would not include the retail markup.  Budgy would know what that is, but he may not want to say.

So, a TP that sells for $3000 in a store, $1000 may go to the store for their costs and profit margin (this is a guess), $1000 may go into the cost of making/shipping it, $800 goes into marketing, overhead, taxes, etc., and $200 is net profit for TP.

 
 
CONSOLIDATED STATEMENTS OF INCOME

 

 

(In thousands, except per common share amounts)
 
 
Year Ended December 31,
 
 
2009
   
2008
 
2007
 
                 
Net sales
$
831,156
  $
927,818
 
$
1,106,722
 
Cost of sales
 
437,414
   
526,861
   
571,896
 
Gross profit
 
393,742
   
400,957
   
534,826
 
Selling and marketing expenses
 
153,440
   
172,350
   
193,574
 
General, administrative and other expenses
 
95,357
   
94,743
   
97,138
 
Operating income
 
144,945
   
133,864
   
244,114
 
Other expense, net:                  
     Interest expense, net    (17,349 )    (25,123    (30,484
     Other income (expense), net      441      (1,319    (756
Total other expense
 
(16,908
)  
(26,442
 
(31,240
Income before income taxes
 
128,037
   
107,422
   
212,874
 
Income tax provision
 
43,044
   
48,554
   
71,415
 
Net income
$
84,993
   $
58,868
 
$
141,459
 
Earnings per common share:
                 
Basic
$
1.13
   $
0.79
 
$
1.77
 
Diluted
$
1.12
   $
0.79
 
$
1.74
This message was modified May 7, 2010 by sandman
Re: why are tempurpedic prices so high
Reply #4 May 7, 2010 12:10 PM
Joined: May 7, 2010
Points: 7
firstposter wrote:

why are tempupedic mattresses so high in prices?

What is the profit margin for them? Thanks.


First, Tempur-pedic prices are high because people are willing to pay them.  This probably has to do more with their advertising ("don't be fooled by competitors", "used by astronauts", etc.) than anything else.

However, the funny thing is that Tempur-pedic's selling, general, and administrative expenses are a lot lower than Sealy's.  Tempur-pedic's gross profit margins are higher as well - 47% vs. 40%.  And to top it all off, the company is in much better shape (i.e. less debt) than its closest publicly-traded competitor, which results in a higher net profit to the company.  What does this all mean to you, the consumer?  Probably not much.

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