Why Latex does not work for people...
Mar 31, 2011 12:53 PM
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One word.

 

PUSHBACK.

Yes latex pushes back against your body and there are many people who don't find that comfortable.

Imagine sleeping on a surface that is pushing back against you all night. I hate to say this but that would not be a comfortable feeling.

In fact that creates pressure.  So Latex does not lead to pressure point relief.

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Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #15 May 12, 2011 1:33 PM
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My doctor says he recommends a tempurpedic bed for people with low back pain. He says he has one since last 7 years and it is still the same.  What do I say to him? That tempurpedic beds soften over time? That they lose support? But my doctor says his bed is still good. what do you say to an expert?
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Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #16 May 12, 2011 5:48 PM
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richardp wrote:

 

My doctor says he recommends a tempurpedic bed for people with low back pain. He says he has one since last 7 years and it is still the same.  What do I say to him? That tempurpedic beds soften over time? That they lose support? But my doctor says his bed is still good. what do you say to an expert?


You don't have to say anything to him but what works for some people may not work for all.  There are doctors who will tell you anything....that doesn't make them right.  Maybe your doctor doesn't need back support for his back...my grandson doesn't either, but I wouldn't take his recommendation on a mattress.  I'm not expert or doctor, but I doubt they study mattresses or mattress structure in medical school.

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Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #17 May 14, 2011 1:34 PM
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Richardp & Sall:

Thanks for your reply, but we are pretty sure we don't want Tempurpedic, after much research. I think we are down to latex, just don't know where to go from here, except to try Savvy Rest.

 

 


 

Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #18 May 14, 2011 11:44 PM
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I went to test drive some latex today in the South SF Bay area today.

A while ago I went into one of those box mattress stores and tried out a Tempurpedic.  It was like sleeping in sand.  I liked the feeling!  But it's environmentally evil, hot and since you sink into the mattress tossing and turning (which I do a lot of) doesn't work.  So I've been leaning toward latex which is about the same price.

I went to Reclaim Home who has on display Savvy Rest 10" mattresses in Dunlop and Talalay.  I liked what I saw and sent about 30 minutes trying out different combos.  I tried the default configs of F/F/M and M/M/S in Dunlop and Talalay.  I couldn't tell much difference between the Dunlop and Talalay in the F/F/M.  I sleep half way between side and stomach and sometimes sleep on stomach and on side.  The F/F/M didn't have any softness to it, but I liked the firmness.  The M/M/S was nice and cushy and the Talalay felt softer than the Dunlop.  I think the Talalay soft is softer than the Dunlop soft FWIW.

I had them put F/F/S in Dunlop and it felt just right.  There was enough cushioning when sleeping on my side and enough support so that my midsection didn't sag when sleeping on my stomach.  If I decide to purchase, I'll go back and try a F/M/S for comparison.  I liked the feel of latex.  The wool layer on top is pretty thin about 0.5 in, and the cover had a heavy brass zipper.  The overall quality seemed reasonable to me.  The store had the 2x1/2 width latex beds in queen so that they had two of each F/M/S layers.  I could definitely feel the seam.

Then I went to McRoskey, just to see what all that talk is about.  I walked in with my mind made up that there were no springs in my future!  Prices are similar for *mattress only*.  The McRoskey Classic without a box spring had a similar feel to the latex: solid, firm base with a cushion layer on top.  I would not have guessed there were coils in that bed.  Then I tried the fancy, expensive one; it has coils, surrounded by organic wool (the salesman said 50lbs!) and 1" latex (I didn't ask which kind) on both outer sides.  The mattress is flippable and rotatable.  I THOUGHT I HAD DIED AND GONE TO HEAVEN!!!!!!  But the price is $4k.  The saleman at McRoskey was very helpful, not pushy at all.  Even though they don't have a lot of different mattresses, they had a large display.

I also stopped at the Natural Mattress Store.  I walked in to an empty store and the salesman never got up.  I had to ask if they had any all latex mattresses in the store.  The mattressees weren't well labelled.  I started laying on them figuring he might walk over and help, but he didn't get up.  I didn't find any zippers to unzip to look inside.  I tried out a few and then left.  I was disappointed.

The Savvy Rest Serenity looks like a decent quality product.  The funky McRoskey mattress was a pleasant surprise.  If you have a store in your area that sells custom-made, high end mattresses, you should at least try them out.

YMMV

Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #19 May 14, 2011 11:56 PM
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Phoebe2011, 

Firstly, you may get more responses if you post your question in a new topic thread, rather than under this current, unrelated thread topic.  Nevertheless, I'll provide my 2 cents here and we'll see if others chime in...

Wow - 47 years is quite a run for a mattress!

Many folks on this forum have purchased their latex mattresses through online vendors.  Both www.sleepez.com and www.flobeds.com sell all natural latex mattresses in a variety of configurations, and both have received largely positive reviews on this site. Both vendors also offer "layer exchanges", as well as a 90 - 100 day full money back guarantees, which provides peace of mind if you decide you don't like the mattress within the first few months and want to return it. Even if you decide to purchase a mattress online, however, it's generally advised to test a few latex mattresses out in a store to help guide your purchasing decision, by helping you determine what configuration, thickness, and latex firmness ("ILD") suits you best. So a trip to a nearby Savvy Rest is still a good idea, even if you don't ultimately purchase from them. The type of latex being manufactured today, offered by Savvy Rest and others, will probably feel quite different than your Goodrich TexFoam mattress.

Another option you might consider is to purchase a soft "topper" to go on your existing latex mattress.  It sounds as though you are considering getting a new mattress not because your old mattress has deteriorated in support, but rather because you have reached a point where you would like some additional cushioning to go along with that support.  This might be achieved simply by getting a softer layer of foam to go on top or your mattress, which would of course be a lot more economical than buying an entirely new mattress. In addition to the online vendors listed above, www.sleeplikeabear.com offers latex "toppers" for this purpose. I would suggest a topper layer that is around 2" thick, in the 14-19 ILD range. You might also ask your Savvy Rest store about what they offer for toppers.

I wouldn't worry too much about slippage between layers. Many folks place multi-layered latex mattresses on adjustable beds, with upper and lower body sections that raise and lower, and I don't think slippage is generally much a problem there.

Good luck with your search!

Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #20 May 15, 2011 11:13 AM
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Thank you so much for your reply and especially referring to our Goodrich Mattress. I was hoping someone would compare it to the latex manufactured today. When you say it is "different", do you mean in terms of durability or firmness? Our current mattress is starting to crumble a little, but only on the edges. We are lucky in the fact that there are grips on the sides of the mattress ticking to turn it so we don't have to touch the latex itself. I was considering a topper for this mattress, but thought since it was beginning to crumble, we should buy a new one. Also, when I was considering a purchase of a new mattress, I was thinking that our son could use the new one after we are gone, but hopefully that will not be for many more years. :) 

 

Wish the Savvy Rest store were closer than 300 miles, but we hope to make it a bit of a vacation trip too. Still it would be nice to be able to try a mattress more than once. I am also going to call around to see what is available locally one more time, but think there are slim pickings around here.

 

I did take your advice to post under a new topic.

 

 

 

Sleepwithcats,

 

Thanks so much for your review on Savvy Rest. I only wish that we were that close to a SR store, or any store which sells some other latex besides Tempurpedic, which we have tried, find it too soft and are concerned about being too warm.

 

Are you planning to buy a new mattress?

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Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #21 May 15, 2011 1:07 PM
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Phoebe2011, I also tried in a store the Temperpedic mattress and I did not like the feeling of the memory foam and I did not like the fact that it outgasses since I have allergies.

I know a poster on the decorating forum who posted about how Savvy Rest latex bed in 2007 and I know she is happy. I went with FloBeds.com since I wanted to be able to return the bed and get a refund if an all latex bed was not for me. I also was told about FloBeds from tax customers of mine and when I went on the website, I was impressed and called Dave.  Any Latex bed that has the layers set up for your individual needs I feel you and your wife will be happy with.  I myself like very firm latex layers with no soft layers but a 1" latex topper being that I am not quite 5 feet tall and only 100 lbs.  Most small adults seem to like softer beds but to me, I need a firm bed with a tiny bit of cushion for pressure relief.

Good luck with your search for a new bed.

Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #22 May 29, 2011 6:38 AM
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Another good reason why latex does not work for all, is the fact that some people are pretty alergic to it.  Yea it may be antimicrobial and dm resistant but what good is that for people who can't even sleep on it?
Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #23 May 29, 2011 3:39 PM
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daydreamer01 wrote:

Another good reason why latex does not work for all, is the fact that some people are pretty alergic to it.  Yea it may be antimicrobial and dm resistant but what good is that for people who can't even sleep on it?


Well, I'm sure there must be some people who allergic to sleeping on latex but then there are some people who allergic to everything. If you're allergic to sleeping on latex, don't sleep on it. However being allergic to wearing latex gloves, for example, does not preclude you from sleeping on latex. It's a completely different situation.

Re: Why Latex does not work for people...
Reply #24 May 29, 2011 3:45 PM
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Phoebe2011, I would definitely go with a Flobeds in your situation. If you could send a piece of your mattress to flobeds with the info from the Tag or whatever you have on it, then they could probably approximate the feel you want. Flobeds will a) give you the chance to try it with various combinations of firmnesses, and b) will give you a refund minus shipping if you return it (Check their current policy, that's how it was a few years ago last time I checked). Go to http://www.flobeds.com/latex/index.htm .

I bought my latex at various places and created my own mattress but if you want an all latex mattress with no springs then I recommend flobeds, especially since you are concerned about spending money and ending up with an "albatross".