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Re: DIY mattress resource guide? - st3v3k4hn
Feb 1, 2011 9:17 AM
 

http://www.purerest.com/ These are Dunlop and are not the best value IMO but they are probably the most stringent in their independent chemical and purity testing which may be important to some. They do have an "econo" version as well which is better value.

http://www.flobeds.com/latex/index.htm They offer high quality and good levels of customization and have a zoned model. Many people like them because of their return and warranty provisions however I believe they are a little too high priced compared to some others.

http://www.savvyrest.com/products/organic-mattresses/serenity I'm including these for comparison purposes only as they are well known and high quality. They do have a good reputation and their prices are lower at some of their dealers than on their website however I have...

Re: Friend needs help with already bought latex mattress - sandman
Jan 14, 2011 6:22 AM
Phoenix wrote:

 

Everyone I have talked to is "sure" it is Dunlop which is strange because I could have sworn I read that it was Talalay on the Sams Club website at one point which is why I have it in my list as Talalay. The Allura (which is not all latex) does use Talalay in the comfort layer. Maybe I'm just going crazy :). The only reason I am so unsure is that I have not seen Dunlop this soft and when it is listed as this soft it is usually a mistake based on a different way of measuring softness. I called Irvin back and he was at a meeting. Then I tried to call Sleep Comp but the person I wanted to talk to wasn't in. So I'm still waiting for an answer.

 

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Re: Low back pain; too firm or too soft? - shovel99
Feb 6, 2011 8:38 AM
Steve,

Combination side sleeper back sleeper ... lower lumbar pain.  170 lb male.  Spent 4-5 years in constant pain wrestling through 23 mattresses and 100 toppers.  Couldn't even tell if there was an improvement in topper shuffling there was so much residual pain.  I took the surgery leap maybe 4 months ago to isolate the comfort layer from the support layer (springs)... with sandman's help and example.  Have been sleeping pretty well with 4 one inch layers over just the firm continuous springs from a Firm Serta Perfect sleeper.

You, like me and others with back pain... need firm to very firm as close underneath just enough or as little comfort layer as possible... soft at the top ... medium... to firm as you go down.

I chose the Serta for the continuous coil.. recommended for us with back pain.

You know...

Re: Need advice on ILD and 1 or 2 inch mattress topper to get - shovel99
Feb 5, 2011 2:54 AM
Seach shovel99 and mattress surgery.  I am 170lb back side sleeper with lower back pain and have been all through the 1 inch toppers, and have explained what and why... to long to repeat here.

Very briefly: I suggest you start with 4lb Eco Green comfort dreams 1 inch memory foam topper from www.overstock.com... which I have chosen over both the 14 ILD from SLAB, which I literally bought once... returned with $36 shipping charge from Atlanta.... and later came back and bought it again... looking for something slightly softer than the 20 ILD from FBM.   I found the 14 ILD too soft... both times, now... and regret the expense.  Not many here at this form have stated that they have, like or need 14 ILD, and as one of the most picky about soft, warn you that it is a small minority.

I have found...

Re: That pillowtop feel - More thoughts - shovel99
Feb 3, 2011 6:01 AM
Continuation from last post:  I am 6 ft male, 170 lbs and as you know weight and sleep patterns matter.

I started out toward building an all latex mattress but first stacked up all the 20 ILD pieces I had from foambymail.com, which was 2 x2 inch and 2x 1 inch, for 6 full inches of "only" 20 ILD and laid it on the floor. I figured if I could get to "soft enough" with all latex, 20 ILD was the softest I could find at the time, before discovering SLAB and rocky mountain, where they had 14 ILD at outrageous prices, of course. SLAB 14 is $172, 1 inch, queen, where 20 ILD from FBM is $93.

6 inches of 20 ILD felt like a rock.  Hurt shoulders, hips, back, everywhere.  A rock.  So I decided right there and then that throwing tons of money...

Re: That pillowtop feel- Supersoft High Quality Poly from Foamdistributing.com - shovel99
Feb 3, 2011 5:01 AM
Steve,

I know exactly what you are talking about as that is what I have been after for years now.  The St. Dormier is a skirted mattress pad.. washable wool encased in stretchy 100% cotton, very loose skirt.  Mine just arrived.. it does add some "firmness" but is probably a keeper for me.  Before that I have been sleeping on just a sheet between me and my 1 inch top layer of 4 ILD eco green memory foam from Overstock.

All good recommendations from the others, here.

While I own and have tried the 1 inch of 14 ILD from sleep like a bear (not yet under the dormier but plan to tonight) ... under just a sheet, I found it too soft... and hence not supportive. 

IMHO, the feel we are both looking for comes from just the right degree of...

Re: Best latex topoper ILD for a small side sleeper ?? - shovel99
Jan 29, 2011 3:14 AM
Hi Becky,

Welcome and hopefully you will find your answers here!  Most of us here have spent many thousand$ and tried many toppers.

I am 170 lb, 61 years young, combination side and back sleeper, and have lower back lumbar pain issues.  Further, I don't like the sinking feeling of memory foam or the higher heat factor from it, because of its physical structure and the fact that it wraps and forms to your body and restricts air flow.  I am among the hardest to get right I have actually owned or swap tried in home 23 mattresses and have tried over 100 toppers including latex, memory, polyurethane.

Since I no longer have the wrap of muscle I use to have, my "boney" hip and shoulder are very sensitive.

Search my ID  shovel99 for my inputs which will relate to your situation,...

Shocked when I replaced just one inch of soft poly over my springs with 1 inch of (very) firm 36HD poly made my bed very firm! - shovel99
Jan 9, 2011 7:47 AM
Hi Folks,

Just wanted to share an important update on my search ofperfect sleep through mattress surgery.

1)  The cotton blanket I was using in place of expensive cover like St. Dormier isnt working.  It stiffens the top layer (memory foam 4 lb) so much that it negates the conformative shaping quality and value provided by mem foam.  It is my most critical layer.

 

2)  My nearly perfect for me combo of (top to bottom)   1 inch 4 lb eco green memory foam (overstock.com), 2 x 1 inch 20 ILD latex foambymail.com, 1 inch of supersoft poly foam from foamdistributing.com on top of Serta Perfect Sleeper Auburn Firm (springs only, cut off the top and took out the 3 foam layers)... was temporarily:

Made unsleepably, uncomfortably firm... by changing out one, one inch bottom layer, 3 inches down from...

Re: Don't know what else to consider doing....mattress suggestions? - shovel99
Jan 9, 2011 6:54 AM
Phoenix wrote:

I think it's obscene what the 7.3 lb costs as well as the tempur (499 for 1" of probably their "regular" density"). At least the tempur has a cover. Their 5.3 lb foam is much cheaper so I really don't understand why either are so much.

I called them to see if I could find out what it was and got a typical rep on the phone who kept repeating "we've been instructed not to give out that information". I told him that was too bad because that kind of lack of transparency and consumers' interest in knowing what was in their mattress was exactly the problem of the "s" companies and that companies like this could much to change this for the better. I then asked him if he could check with a supervisor to find out if he...

Austin, TX - Hippopook
Jan 15, 2011 4:42 PM
Okay, after finding this site earlier today I haven't stopped reading trying to figure out what to do.  We have a queen size sleep number and I call it our concave bed - my wife and I are tilted towards each other (which is okay cause I kinda like her) but we both are waking up each morning in pain.  I have back issues, she does not (yet).  I sleep better on our couches that are too short for me.  Blah.

So, we laid on the very soft pillow top at Sams that cost like $599.  Then I read something on Amazon about not getitng those because you can't flip them.  Then, I figured I'd better do some research and came onto this site.  Wow - I had no idea how little I knew.

(By the way - I was talking to my wife about these...

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