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Mattress surgery after 25 mattresses and $6000 and 100 toppers... - shovel99
Dec 18, 2010 12:31 PM
Hi,

I am male 170 lb (close to your 200lb), and am a "flipper"  (side and back sleeper, perhaps 60/40%) w/lower back pain (lumbar).  I went through 25 mattresses, the $6k and many toppers before doing mattress surgery.  Search shovel99 and you will pull up my comments.. but I update them here.  I went from waking up in shooting pain every day from the mattress/topper hunt ... decided to do "mattress surgery with help from comments and postings from jimsocal, sandman, budgy, others.  This started 2-3 months ago.

I have experimented with 1" ($90+)and 2" 20 ILD ($190 queen) ("called soft by them... the 1" was pretty soft and the 2" quite firm) latex from Foambymail.com, 1" 14 ILD 'very soft' talalay latex from sleeplikeabear.com ($175 Qn), and multiple layers of 1" Supersoft (feels like 20 ILD latex equivalent) and 1" 36 HD (firm.... probably like...

Re: We Ordered This Week - budgy
Dec 18, 2010 7:51 AM
Hopefully things will start to improve for your wife.  I never got any pain when I got my rubber mattres (6" firm natural dunlop core, 2" natural talalay top)...I had a hard time falling asleep on it for a week or so.  

Latex Green only makes 100% NR cores, so no worries that it could be a blended product.  The cores are definitely firm but the product is top notch.

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Re: I need help finding a new mattress and I feel lost. Reviews are extremely subjective, sales people aren't truthful, and prices fluctuate without reason - Phoenix
Dec 17, 2010 1:36 PM
You would probably be in the range of latex over innersprings or even latex over high quality poly in the upper part of your budget. At the lower part of your budget you will almost certainly have polyfoam in your mattress. I agree with Budgy that latex foam is likely cooler than the polyfoam you would find in most mattresses in your price range. The only thing cooler would likely be natural stuffings (horsehair wool etc) over innersprings but then you're looking at "other issues" including price as these are how the "super beds with a super price" are made. There are a few that are less but still not in your budget for a queen. You may be mistaking all foam with memory foam which usually does sleep hotter. In order of "breathability" there is latex, "regular" polyfoam, and memory foam.

You would probably do well to...

Re: The Dr. Breus Bed (Talalay Latex) - Phoenix
Nov 30, 2010 9:02 AM
The "paper tag" is not incorrect ... but I have to say whoever told you about the "computer glitch" was creative.

There is a lot of great information on this forum about "soy based" poly foam and what they are and where they come from, including in some recent threads. The word that is most commonly used to describe how they are being marketed is "greenwashing". It is nothing more than regular poly with usually less than 20% soy based polyols that are being incorrectly promoted (by many manufacturers not just Dr Breus or more correctly IBC who manufactures the mattress) as being green. It is just another version of poly. It's a step in "kind of" "sort of" the right direction but soy based products themselves have other issues which are far from green. The reason for the "plant based"  polyols in the first place is because...

Re: Need transition bed for my 2yo - Phoenix
Nov 23, 2010 3:30 PM
1. Something like this http://www.mygreenmattress.com/view_products/echomattress.htm would probably also be suitable and would leave you room in your budget for a latex topper as well should you want it. The quality sleep side of their business could probably even add a layer of latex for less than it would cost you to buy a topper if you wished.

2. Probably your least expensive "all latex" option would be to buy 2 of these http://www.mattresses.net/3-twin-natural-latex-mattress-pad.html and then buy a 6" cotton mattress encasement here http://www.sleepez.com/mattresscomponents.htm and you would have a 6" all latex mattress for $358 plus a bit of shipping.

3.Don't forget though that you will need some kind of waterproof barrier in case of accidents and in the case of the latex option #2, since the mattress encasement is just cottton and I personally believe that sleeping on wool leads to a deeper...

Re: Searching for a mattress in Quad Cities - Phoenix
Nov 23, 2010 1:51 PM
I talked with Bob at customsleep design this morning and confirmed with him that he will build a 9" latex mattress for people that have a more restricted budget. What he usually does in these cases is use a 4" core instead of 6" and then makes it a little firmer to compensate. I won't quote any prices since they depend on choice of material in the layers and overall construction and this can vary a lot but it would be "in the neighborhood" of mygreenmattress at the upper end of your range. His mattresses are more individually tailored to a person's body makeup than the others and also represent great value ... especially if someone has some kind of difficulty (pressure, spinal alignment etc) with a more non customized or more typical layering or zoning approach. He also does layer exchanges and you have 90 days to make sure...
Re: We Ordered This Week - Bioman
Dec 18, 2010 5:08 AM
 

Well everything arrived in great condition.  The Latex looked nice, it is indeed "Latex Green" although the tags did not identify if it was a blend or pure natural latex.  It went together well, sort of funny to see how the Latex practically bursts out of tight plastic it is in once cut open.  Covers are nice and attractive but seem closer to 1/2" than an 1", but this could be due to the extreme compression in which these are shipped.  Anyways that is just as well as I really did want to be as close to the latex as possible to get a feel for it.  Our foundation is poplar slats spaced around 2.5" apart with a box beam running up the center under them for support; the adjustable bases have not yet arrived.

Well, I'm glad I ordered twin xl instead of a...

Re: Dunlop Vs. Talalay - Bioman
Dec 7, 2010 4:32 PM
 

One of the vendors touting the advantages of 100% Natural Dunlop over blended Talalay for heavier people is Sleep Ez.  Based on what you are saying, I need to ask him which of the sources he gets his Dunlop from and if it is truly 100% and not blended.  It appears he is using 100% Dunlop sourced from Latex Green Aprico; using Sri Lanka raw materials.  A quick search of the internet seems to show the importer as Richard Pieris Natural Foams Limited.  The interesting part of the conversation is that he also sells blended Talalay from LI (Talatech) and 100% Dunlop for the same price.  The 100% natural Talalay he sells costs around 25% more.  So there does not seem to be a profit or supply based motive here as he could sell me either of the aforementioned for the same price  and he also steered...

Sleepless in Michigan - Latex topper? - Fibromaniac
Dec 5, 2010 8:29 AM
I'll try to be brief. We just moved and, having no beds to sleep on, bought 2 "high quality" Restronc "plush" twin beds. My husband can sleep on anything. I have been trading beds in on a regular basis for years. Water beds, air beds, posture beds, memory foam bed.


I wanted to try latex but couldn't find one around here to even try. At home I was sleeping on a very hard cheap bed with a four inch memory foam topper. (rescued from the original memory foam bed after it developed impressions in the first year.) It was working fairly well but we had no place to put the bed in this new home.


I tried using the 4" foam on this Restronic and it was awful. I am tall -- around 5'10" with long legs and had to...

Help w/ Selecting Mattress Topper - sawdin
Dec 18, 2010 12:12 PM
I could use some advice on selecting a mattress topper.  I’ve read many of the posts on this forum (great resource!) and here’s my very generalized ‘understanding’ of the difference between traditional memory foam and latex (Dunlop or Talalay):

1)     You sleep IN a memory foam topper because memory foam is viscous and thus ‘flows’ whereas you sleep ON a Latex topper because it compresses underneath you rather than ‘flows’ away from body pressure.

2)     Memory foam will sleep ‘hotter’ than Latex; though new types of memory foam such as Foamex’ Aerus will be ‘cooler’ than standard memory foam, and Latex International’s Celsion will maintain a consistent body temperature.

3)     If the memory foam is too soft, it won’t provide much, if any, support (e.g., you bottom out).  If a Latex foam is too hard/resilient, it might not alleviate pressure points.

I’ve...

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