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Re: Longevity of Latex Foam? - MequonJim
Sep 18, 2009 5:35 AM
mattressnewbie wrote:
Hi Jim!

Was it you who had posted pix comparing the two - LI vs fbm's latex?  I had tried to find that thread again a couple weeks ago, but couldn't find it...  Would you mind pointing me to it, please? 

I've been waffling over spending the extra $$$ on LI...  Budget's a little tight.  In your personal opinion, would FBM's latex still be ok for a bottom layer?  Also, I forget - do you tend to like a firmer or softer feel?  I like firm mattresses (prefer sleeping on my stomach, but due to my current old mattress killing my lower back when I do that, have been sleeping on my side, but I cannot fall into a deep sleep on my back!).  So, I had been thinking of a couple options:

Option 1:

All LI latex (probably from sleeplikeabear or sleepez (think sleepez's latex might be from one of 4 places though,...

Re: Longevity of Latex Foam? - Lynn2006
Sep 17, 2009 6:35 PM
I have both the blended and the natural Latex Internal Latex and I find them both very high quality with a preference for the natural in my pillows next to my face (psychological just knowing it is natural) but no preference for the latex cores since I find my allergies are not bothered by the blended latex and it is just as nice as the natural.

I had bought a synthetic latex pillow NOT from Latex International and had allergic reactions to it and had to give it away. I never had or have any problems with Talalay Latex so their cleaning process must be very good.

I love my Talaly latex bed from FloBeds and I love my Talalay latex 1" soft topper from Brylane Homes.  I returned the 2" convoluted latex topper from FloBeds and I put the 1" topper I bought from Brylane Homes under the zippered cover....

Re: 12 year latex veteran with a question - cloud9
Sep 18, 2009 2:14 AM
Speculation on exactly how long latex will last aside, my entire family slept on blended Dunlop latex mattresses and they lasted 20 years before the foam began to dry up and powder. That's not speculation--that's fact. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to find blended Dunlop any longer. It's all "natural" which means it's derived from rubber trees rather than petroleum.

Eagle is quite right. You really can't get a straight answer on what kind of latex is the most durable and long lasting. It seems like whatever the vendor sells is the "best." But it does make sense to me that sap is like wine--a natural product whose quality will vary from harvest to harvest. The theory behind blended latex is that the quality of the synthetic element can be maintained to a specific standard, and will compensate for any deficiency in the natural element. I don't know if there...

Re: Longevity of Latex Foam? - eagle2
Sep 17, 2009 6:32 PM
MequonJim wrote:
I like the consistency of the blended talalay better.  Both are Latex International products.  I'm not sure what ratio the blend is.  Both are high quality products, but I like the blended a bit more.

I also own some foam by mail latex, which is very low quality.  Not comparable to LI latex in any meaningful way.

Jim: I believe I read someplace that Latex Internationals blended product was a 65% synthetic 35% natural Talalay. But I'm sure they could make it any blend that a customer wanted, as long as that customer was buying sufficient volume.

The other thing that I have heard about a blended product is that you can purchase it in a stiffer configuration. This might prove useful as a bottom layer in a mattress.

The latex by mail that you referenced, could be almost anything, but my guess would be that it is some form...
Re: Desperate for sleep - Herniated disc sufferer looking for mattress/topper solution - KimberlyH
Sep 18, 2009 11:38 AM
I too am suffering from horrible back pain and have been researching latex mattresses.  I would look at several websites and read what everybody says about:

1.  Dunlop vs. Talalay latex - some people seem to prefer one kind or the other.  The short story is that Dunlop seems to be stiffer, have fewer ILD options, and is less consistent, and may break down sooner.  Dunlop is manufactured in Sri Lanka, if I remember correctly.

This site has some good information about the manufacturing methods and some nice video to watch:

http://www.latexmattresscompany.com/

2.  All "natural" Talalay latex vs. blended Talalay latex - blended being a combination of natural latex rubber from a rubber tree and synthetic latex, which is chemically identical to natural latex.  Again, you will hear differences of opinion with some feeling that all natural is the best latex, and others saying that blended Talalay has a more consistent structure and more...
Re: Longevity of Latex Foam? - mattressnewbie
Sep 17, 2009 6:54 PM
Hi Jim!

Was it you who had posted pix comparing the two - LI vs fbm's latex?  I had tried to find that thread again a couple weeks ago, but couldn't find it...  Would you mind pointing me to it, please? 

I've been waffling over spending the extra $$$ on LI...  Budget's a little tight.  In your personal opinion, would FBM's latex still be ok for a bottom layer?  Also, I forget - do you tend to like a firmer or softer feel?  I like firm mattresses (prefer sleeping on my stomach, but due to my current old mattress killing my lower back when I do that, have been sleeping on my side, but I cannot fall into a deep sleep on my back!).  So, I had been thinking of a couple options:

Option 1:

All LI latex (probably from sleeplikeabear or sleepez (think sleepez's latex might be from one of 4 places though, rather than definitely all...

Celsion vs normal Talalay. Celsion owners please chime in. - Carachi
Sep 18, 2009 11:33 AM
I keep seeing in threads where someone bought Celsion latex as their top layer, but I am not really seeing any clear answers from people whether they thought the celsion provided any actual benefits over the standard Talalay (Blend or Natural).  Any owners wan't to chime in on their experience with Celsion?...
Re: 12 year latex veteran with a question - enlighten
Sep 18, 2009 7:13 AM
cloud9 wrote:
Speculation on exactly how long latex will last aside, my entire family slept on blended Dunlop latex mattresses and they lasted 20 years before the foam began to dry up and powder. That's not speculation--that's fact. Unfortunately I don't think it's possible to find blended Dunlop any longer. It's all &quot;natural&quot; which means it's derived from rubber trees rather than petroleum. </p><p>Eagle is quite right. You really can't get a straight answer on what kind of latex is the most durable and long lasting. It seems like whatever the vendor sells is the &quot;best.&quot; But it does make sense to me that sap is like wine--a natural product whose quality will vary from harvest to harvest. The theory behind blended latex is that the quality of the synthetic element can be maintained to a specific standard, and will compensate for any deficiency in the natural element....
Re: 12 year latex veteran with a question - enlighten
Sep 18, 2009 4:40 AM
eagle2 wrote:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Jay:</span> It would be wonderful if someone like &quot;Consumer Reports&quot; would get their head out of the sand and really do a scientific study on mattresses. They won't do it, they just don't want to spend the time and money. But I believe that's what it would take to really be able to answer a lot of the questions that people have about latex.<BR><BR>I have heard that both Dunlop and Talalay 100% natural latex are both wonderful products. Dunlop uses the older method of pure vulcanizeing of the latex and Talalay uses a more complicated process in an effort to get a more consistent product. But if both processes use 100% natural organic latex, then they should both last for a very long time.<BR><BR>Basically, it seems to me, that you can hear anything you want to based upon the individuals bias or prejudice...
Desperate for sleep - Herniated disc sufferer looking for mattress/topper solution - bedhater
Sep 18, 2009 7:06 AM
Last spring I started experiencing back issues. Since hubby was too, we thought it was time for a new mattress. After it was ordered, but before it was delivered, I stopped sleeping through the night. That was May 27 - for the most part I get no more than 3-4 hours of sleep per night since then. I soon discovered I have a herniated disc - L/4-L/5 that I am trying to survive without surgery. Hope that the new bed - a Sealy Boheme Plush - would help me sleep didn't last long. It was waaay too soft. After a few months we traded it in for a Sealy Dorinda Plush Firm. Not to sound like Goldilocks, but it was too hard. I could barely eek out 3 hours of sleep on it at first. After a couple weeks we...

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