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Re: latex beds by Natura? - admin
May 15, 2008 10:08 PM
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Re: Anybody still buying Dunlop? - confusedbedbug
May 18, 2008 4:37 PM
Natura mattresses tend to be very firm.  i Believe they are dunlopillo which is a bit different again.  Definitely firmer than talalay toppers I have had.....While firm, we still had back issues with herniated disks not liking the latex bed at all.  Be careful with that......
Re: latex beds by Natura? - confusedbedbug
May 15, 2008 6:22 PM
i don't know how to do that or if the old forum is available.  I suggest you contact the administrator via email  or PM....
Re: Anybody still buying Dunlop? - IanS
May 19, 2008 5:49 AM
Latex International and Dunlopillo don't normally sell direct to customers.  L.I. has made an exception for some of its pillows in the past, but that is not the rule.  So warrantees typically come from the distributers or the manufactures and can vary.  As customers, we don't have the inside scoop on what is being offered to the manufactures.  So many companies are making latex now it is easy to get confused.  Dunlop does not equal Dunlopillo even though Dunlopillo may make a Dunlop latex.

I should clarify what I said above about natural Talalay before the latex fans jump all over me.  Natural Talalay, along with Artificial Talalay, have been around for a long time.  Standard Talalay is a mix of Natural Talalay and Artificial Talalay.  However, when Talalay was first introduced, the Artificial Talalay (although too expensive) was considered the superior product because...

Re: Anybody still buying Dunlop? - IanS
May 18, 2008 8:02 PM
One of the biggest reasons I dislike latex is the constant confusion, so to clear the air........

Dunlop = The older process of making latex that used to be (up until about 4-5 years ago) sometimes referred to as natural if the contents were found to be at least 71% natural or called standard if they were not. None of it is or was 100% natural outside of marketing. It feels like pound cake but ILD ratings are similar. First created by the Dunlop company, it is now made all over by almost every latex manufacturer and comes in various degrees of quality. Some Dunlop mattresses can last 40+ years.

Talalay = Standard Talalay is the newer process of making latex, introduced by Latex International who called it Talatech. It feels like angel food cake and is made from a mix of 70% artificial Talalay and 30%...
Re: Dunlopillo latex and fire retardants - Leo3
May 18, 2008 9:13 PM
Thanks Lynn.  I imagine that the stock is the same as yours, nothing new added.  From what the previous posters said Natura was using Dunlopillo latex in the beds, so I would guess this old stock?  I did receive one already and it seems really good quality, it did have some dirty spots though.  So I think it must have been in their storage area for a while.  I have read something about using wool on top of beds to make fireproof so maybe that is what they are talking about.  Great postings here.  I have learned lot from your posts too : )...
Anybody still buying Dunlop? - Mimi
May 18, 2008 12:21 PM
OK, I'm calling on all you experts!  Like most people considering the big switch to a latex mattress I've done tons of reading and research but still am not sure what we need.  After reading through this forum (twice) I almost feel like maybe I'd like Dunlop better than Talalay, but I don't see a whole lot of discussion about Dunlop.  I like a very firm mattress with very little "give".  But, as a side sleeper I know I need some amount of softness on top.  I hate conventional pillowtops.  My weight is around 140 and my husbands around 240.  I have back issues - low back pain, degenerative disk problems, lots of trigger points, yada, yada.....  I have seen a couple of people say there's a big difference in the feel of Dunlop and they prefer it.  So, is anybody still buying Dunlop or should I assume most of...
Re: Some people can't sleep on latex??? - st3v3k4hn
May 24, 2008 6:02 PM
Lynn2006 wrote:
Steve, I do not know why Dunlap Latex would last longer than very firm Talalay Latex. I can see it laster longer than soft latex but this is just my opinion.  

What was the ILD Density on the Englander you tested since each companies Firm differs in the firmness?  What was the ILD Density of the soft cushion? Also only have 6" of latex over a very firm base, will be much firmer than three latex cores on top of one another.  I would call around to find out if anyone has a mattress made of Dunlap Latex to try out even if it is a far drive since you will be allowed one exchange with SleepEz.  If you really want to try the Dunlap (there are people on this site that like it a lot), maybe Shawn will work with you in writing to give...

Re: Some people can't sleep on latex??? - st3v3k4hn
May 24, 2008 2:56 PM
Lynn2006 wrote:
... do not rule out 44 ILD and 36 to 39 ILD Talalay Latex which can be very firm and supportive until you try it.

I haven't been able to find any Dunlop mattresses to test in Seattle so far! I did test several Talalay mattresses and agree that in the store they feel great. My concern is that, even at the firmer ILDs, talalay is more likely to soften and lose support than Dunlop. I am basing that entirely on the word on one guy - Shawn at SleepEZ - from what I hear he is a guy that can be believed - he said us heavier folk should stick to Dunlop. He also said any "soft" pieces would not work for me - they would wear too soon. He recommended I get Medium over Firm over Xfirm. So thats how I am leaning at...

Re: latex beds by Natura? - aggiebeancounter
May 25, 2008 8:42 AM
Cinnabon:

If you've never slept on a latex bed, I would suggest finding a hotel that has them and try it a night or two before making a decision.  More and more hotels (and even college dorms) are going with latex because of the longevity, no turning, doesn't harbor dust mites or bed bugs (of which there has been a resurgence on college campuses).  Also, it doesn't transfer motion (the split king didn't work for us, either - the bed frame still transfers the motion).  I don't recall which hotel chain it was in Orlando, but sleeping on one in a hotel (and getting the best nights sleep of my life) is how I knew I wanted to go with latex (still finalizing purchase decision re. ILD of layers)....

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