Mattress Forum

dunadan, glad to hear of your experience!  A few follow up questions for you . . .

Instead of ordering talalay toppers to go over the 10" plush, did you consider doing an exchange to the 10" model with the "soft" topper?  Was that just too much hassle?  The money back guarantee should have allowed you to do that for free where buying more toppers is obviously costing you more.

Please explain more about the "7 zones" and how you adjust them?  From looking at the website, I thought this was a sealed enclosure mattress.  Are you saying the mattress has a zippered case and you are moving zones around?  Again, I'd really like to hear more about this.

It is interesting that dunadan finds the 10" plush on the firm side where the poster weewillwinky refers to found the 8" base model too soft.  Perhaps that only furthers need2sleep's point about the subjectivty associated with many of the terms we use here to describe mattresses.

I don't want to make this thread too much about FBM (probably better to do that in my other thread) though it does factor in as it is my comparative option at this point.  weewilly is pretty much right on about my inconsistency comment.  Also of concern was what the salesperson with FBM told me when I was asking about how I planned to construct my mattress.  He said the 20 ILD toppers felt pretty much just like the 32 ILD toppers.  Either he is wrong about that or there truly is inconsistency within their own latex as that should not be the case at all.  

Anyone have any general comments about an all Dunlop setup vs an all Talalay setup?  I've read somewhere that the Dunlop process cannot be used to make softer ILD latex.  Editing this now because the site does claim a 2" Talalay layer, so it is not all Dunlop.

Thanks again! 

I don't know how they can sell that Allure 10" at that price.  What is the source of the latex?  Their 8" green version which claims to be organic has similar pricing to other online shops that offer similar quality.  Perhaps bamboo covers are less expensive than cotton.

Other than the 60 day money back guarantee, I didn't see any warranty.

Google "brooklyn bedding" and you'll see this mattress is sold elsewhere at websites that have the same look as latesmattressshop.com: http://cheap-latex-foam-mattress.com/manufacturer/brooklyn-bedding.html.  I can't find many user reviews.

I would spend some time on the phone talking to sales people about these mattesses.  Oh, and it appears that they have coupons.  The "About US" page had a code for 5% off.  It appears that these mattresses are some exclusive locally made mattresses.  It's really hard to know the quality of Joe's latex foam.  Many of the other online sellers tell you the source of their latex. Perhaps they will send you a sample?  You should also ask about return policy!  They don't state it.  You might have to pay all shipping fees.  And they don't say you can swap pieces if you are not happy with what you get.  And they don't tell you the ILD numbers of their foam! 

Well the lady I spoke with at FBM stated the 32ILD had a bit more firm feeling than the 20ILD. According to their site, all of their latex has a 5.6lb density.

neeed2sleep, I definitely took his comment with a grain of salt.  Freedom 1955 who built a mattress from their latex reported that switching from the 20 to the 32 layer made the bed feel firmer.  I look forward to hearing about your experiences when you receive your latex from them hopefully tomorrow.

Thanks,

Cliff

p.s. - just found this statement on the homepage:

“If you buy any mattress from The Mattress Shop and you’re not 100% completely satisfied within the first 60 day, simply return it for 100% of your investment back. We’ll even pay the shipping costs so you won’t have to.”

That’s more than fair isn’t? With an offer like this on every mattress we offer…

There’s no way for you to lose!

Instead of ordering talalay toppers to go over the 10" plush, did you consider doing an exchange to the 10" model with the "soft" topper?  Was that just too much hassle?  The money back guarantee should have allowed you to do that for free where buying more toppers is obviously costing you more.

While hauling the mattress upstairs I inadvertedly punctured a small hole in the bottom of the mattress, so I wasn't going to try and send it back at that point.

Please explain more about the "7 zones" and how you adjust them?  From looking at the website, I thought this was a sealed enclosure mattress.  Are you saying the mattress has a zippered case and you are moving zones around?  Again, I'd really like to hear more about this.

It is a sealed enclosure, I was referring to the Comfort Zones. You just have to lay on it properly to take advantage of the different comfort layers.

It is interesting that dunadan finds the 10" plush on the firm side where the poster weewillwinky refers to found the 8" base model too soft.  Perhaps that only furthers need2sleep's point about the subjectivty associated with many of the terms we use here to describe mattresses.

Yeah, I'm sure it's pretty subjective. If I had to do it over I might have went with just the 8" base model and add toppers, or just the Allure with the default soft. Even with having to add toppers I still find this to be a good deal. I like the idea of having a dunlop base and adding Talalay layers in 1" layers to suit to taste.

I don't want to make this thread too much about FBM (probably better to do that in my other thread) though it does factor in as it is my comparative option at this point.  weewilly is pretty much right on about my inconsistency comment.  Also of concern was what the salesperson with FBM told me when I was asking about how I planned to construct my mattress.  He said the 20 ILD toppers felt pretty much just like the 32 ILD toppers.  Either he is wrong about that or there truly is inconsistency within their own latex as that should not be the case at all.  

Anyone have any general comments about an all Dunlop setup vs an all Talalay setup?  I've read somewhere that the Dunlop process cannot be used to make softer ILD latex.  Editing this now because the site does claim a 2" Talalay layer, so it is not all Dunlop.

Thanks again!

Other than the hassle of repacking and sending the bed back, I don't see whats to lose.

There are lots of policies not mentioned on the web site.  Like what happens after 60 days?  And can you swap layers if you are not happy with firmness? I would be more likely to take a chance if the store were local and returning the mattress would not cost a huge amount of money.  But $1000 is a lot of money and I would like to feel like I had seen enough reviews to know I was not making a mistake.

From reading this forum, I would not hesitate to purchase from Sleepez, Flobeds, Savvy Rest.  I have seen enough people talk about experience with these companies.  Other companies have been mentioned, but as they would all be mail order for me, I don't see sufficient savings to justify risk.  I haven't considered DIY, but there seem to be several places where you can buy foam and covers.  I've looked at the web sites for some of those vendors and they seem to be reasonable and state their policies up front.  Perhaps I am different than most people, but I am nervous about web sites that lack basic information.  I want to know what I am buying.

Every mattress I have tried out felt great, even the spring mattresses.  What you really want to know is what all of these mattresses will feel like 5, 10, 15 years down the road.  And you can't be assured that the model made 10 years ago is the same as the one made today.  Most of the reivews here are for new or relatively new mattresses.

Well I made that comment assuming TheLTFM was fine with the 60 day policy. I don't believe there are any layers to swap in that bed setup. Although TheLTFM  hasn't stated a budget, by the looks of the options he has given, his budget may be tight. I agree with you in regards to the three well known and tested sites you listed............... But if you don't have the money they're asking then you can only go the alternative route. A king at those three sites would cost me $2500; I just don't have that kind of a budget for a bed.

Perhaps dunadan can tell us why he didn't return the mattress or exchange a layer?