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I love everything about my latex bed so far but wish I had a 1.25" soft topper. I love my 1" Overstock Topper but it is not that sturdy and is falling apart and is a little small for the bed. I have been reading about this sale only good until Monday. Those that have the Brylane 1" latex topper, do you think the ILD is softer than the Overstock or the same? What do you think the ILD is? Is it man-made latex, blended latex or natural latex do you think? Do you have any idea if this is Dunlap latex processing, Talalay latex processing or neither? Does the latex topper fit the size of the mattress or is it a little small like the Overstock topper that is a little short on all sides? Does the topper have a smell when it arrives and if it does, how long does it take to go away? IS there one big piece for the Queen or King size or it the topper glued? I am still not sure since it is 1" and not 1.25" or 1.5" but maybe until I have time to call Dave to see if he can find me a softer latex topper than the 1.2" he got me that is wonderful but the 24 ILD seems to squishy to me and I do not sink in enough to feel the very firm support underneath that I love unless I put a 44 ILD under it and then it is too hard but still squishy. Then I go back to my 1" topper with the 36 ILD over the 39 ILD over the 44 ILD and feel this is very comfortable and I can live with this and rather err on the firm side than too soft due to my car accident causing the 5 herniated disks. I really think about a 17 to 20 ILD over a 38 ILD (if there is a 36 ILD that averages higher) over the 39 ILD over the 44 ILD would be best for me in about 1.25" thickness but I doubt if anything like this is made. :) I like that there is only a tiny fee to return it if it is not what I want. I wish the sale was for another week since I want to call Dave first and see if he has any ideas. |
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cloud9 wrote: I'm still wondering what the ILD on this thing actually is. In the 1" thickness it feels kind of soft and I had it guestimated at 24-26. However, when you double it over, or even triple it so that it approximates a 3" core, it feels much firmer than that. Closer to a 32. Hmmm... that's interesting. I wonder if we should try both of the toppers together. We slept on just one of them and it killed our backs, it was so soft. Cloud9, do you think with two it would really feel firmer? Did you try sleeping the night on the doubled-up version? |
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kimmcgov wrote: Hmmm... that's interesting. I wonder if we should try both of the toppers together. We slept on just one of them and it killed our backs, it was so soft. Cloud9, do you think with two it would really feel firmer? Did you try sleeping the night on the doubled-up version?
There's also the possiblility that Talalay doesn't agree with you and the foam itself is giving you a backache. I had a horrible time with a Talalay mattress and after six weeks of torture I had to return it, so I was a little apprehensive about subjecting myself to even 1" of the stuff. All I can suggest is that since you have the two toppers give it a try. My back is so sensitive that I can tell if something is going to give me a backache after about 45 minutes. If you read or watch TV in bed that would give you a couple of hours to test out the two toppers so you can take them off before you go to bed if it seems like a bad idea. |
| One of my friends helped me switch the overstock topper with the Brylane Topper under my zipped cover today. The Overstock Topper is 3/4" thick when it has no long ridge and 1" thick at each convoluted ridge under it. The Brylane Topper is 1" thick with no convolution. I will let everyone know how my sleep is tonight. I was so comfortable until the car accident now my back is so extra sensitive. |
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I just got the Carpenter Dream Coil topper today. It has a REALLY strong odor (even stronger than new memory foam). It's going to have to go into the attic for a few of days to air out. I also received the latex zoned topper from Penney's. It has about a half inch of latex laminated to 1.5 inches of convoluted PU foam. It hardly smells at all (just the usual donut smell of the latex), so we may be able to try that one out tonight... Both of these foams seem kind of soft though, and I know that we like a surface more toward the supportive side with just a little give for the hips. I'm just going for the "easy return" options right now in my quest for the ultimate topper... |
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Kim, the problem is that most commericially available toppers are soft because people generally are trying to make a hard or lumpy bed softer and more comfy. If you're looking for a firm topper you'll probably have to try one of the specialty stores that carry latex or HR foams in a variety of ILDs. By the way I was playing with the Brylane topper again today and I've reassessed my opinion that tripled up it felt more like a 30-32. Now I think it's a bit softer than that. Maybe more like a 26-28. |
| It might be better to stop thinking too much about the ILD on the Brylanes. Assuming they were all manufactured for the bun to hit a single ILD # (say around 25) the area variation for the 1" slices probably could be anywhere from 18 to 36 (While that's a WAG, standard on a 6" slab is +/- 3, or more, so variation should really increase when sliced so thin ). They are a good deal for what probably can best be described on average as medium/medium-soft. |
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cloud9 wrote: the problem is that most commericially available toppers are soft because people generally are trying to make a hard or lumpy bed softer and more comfy. If you're looking for a firm topper you'll probably have to try one of the specialty stores that carry latex or HR foams in a variety of ILDs. Yes, that's a good point. I was coming to the same conclusion myself. I have just been afraid of ordering something from the specialty foam stores online since returning it will not be as easy as Brylane and Penney's make it. Most of the foam sources SAY you can return a topper, but the fine print reads that it has to be in the same box (into which the foam was vacuum-packed in the first place) and in pristine condition. I would have to pay return shipping and in some cases the original shipping (if it was free) as well as a restocking fee. That's IF I could get it back in the package without damaging it... 2 inches of latex (in queen size) runs around $250 on average and not having enough experience to know if, 28 ILD vs. 32 ILD will be too firm or soft or just right, it seems too risky to buy one online. I might end up going to our local foam store, which unfortunately doesn't carry latex, and buying some good quality HR foam. This message was modified Feb 19, 2008 by kimmcgov
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LOL. You're right! I was just going to write here how lately my bed is feeling so good. Not sure why! And, last night was even better. We had spent two nights in a hotel this past weekend and the bed was HARD! At least it wasn't sagging like some do. But, I woke up with a stiff neck the first day and back pain the next. Last night I slept in my own bed and I never experienced such a good sleep. In fact, it cured my pain from the previous two nights at the hotel.. I still haven't taken the Dream Coil topper out of the bag. I'll probably keep it, though. I like that it's lifetime guaranteed and not supposed to go flat. I might find that I like the feel better than latex or memory foam. cloud9 wrote: I'm looking forward to your report on the Dream Coil topper, although I have to wonder why you want to add something new when it seems like you've got the bed configured just right. Hope you had a fun weekend away! |
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kimmcgov wrote: 2 inches of latex (in queen size) runs around $250 on average and not having enough experience to know if, 28 ILD vs. 32 ILD will be too firm or soft or just right, it seems too risky to buy one online. I might end up going to our local foam store, which unfortunately doesn't carry latex, and buying some good quality HR foam. Kim, I hear you. Much as I would like a Dunlop topper after the whole SleepEZ fiasco I'm reluctant to buy anything I can't try out in person first. All those stipulations and whatnot. Forget it! I only took a chance on the Brylane topper because it was a great price, no hassle and exactly the thickness I wanted. I think you may actually like HR foam better than latex. It's nice and stable feeling. No jiggles and very supportive. But if you're trying to firm up your bed by using it as a topper, 2" may be too much. The thicker it gets the less flexible and you don't want it buckling up under your sheets. I find a half inch works best for me. I wouldn't go over 1". |
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BeddyBye wrote: LOL. You're right! I was just going to write here how lately my bed is feeling so good. Not sure why! And, last night was even better. We had spent two nights in a hotel this past weekend and the bed was HARD! At least it wasn't sagging like some do. But, I woke up with a stiff neck the first day and back pain the next. Last night I slept in my own bed and I never experienced such a good sleep. In fact, it cured my pain from the previous two nights at the hotel.. Sounds like you've finally hit on something that works! What's your combination of materials now? I had to laugh at the description of your hotel bed, I think I must have stayed at the same hotel. If I'm driving I usually bring my own pillow--cause boy do I hate those polyfil things you usually find in hotels. And if I'm flying I ask for a feather pillow at the desk. Sometimes they have one if I'm lucky. And sometimes I have a stiff neck if I'm not. Hope you had a good time anyway! |