Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Mar 16, 2010 9:24 PM
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I discovered two tears in a latex topper I received. Would you consider this damage, or normal imperfections inherent to latex?

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Reply #12 Mar 18, 2010 4:33 PM
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I agree about stating what company, I did, so have others.  I already know who by my deductions.  But I can tell you if they can't at least discount it for a little I wouldn't do business with them again.  It is damage by a human's touch, so therefore why should you eat the cost?  I have eaten many of costs because of bad business so I understand your not wanting a hassle.

I get tired of some businesses attitude.  In these difficult economic times I refuse to put up with this attitude anymore.  I don't have money to burn.  If they choose not to cooperate they will lose business because the internet does spread truth about companies.

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Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #13 Mar 18, 2010 5:12 PM
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In the past she bought from rockymountainmattress and foamsweetfoam.   My guess if rockymountainmattress, since I also had a small tear in one the pieces I got from them.   I am not even sure they would inspect them.   They may come pre-packaged or drop shipped straight from Latex International. 
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Reply #14 Mar 19, 2010 10:00 PM
Location: L.A. area
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sandman wrote:

In the past she bought from rockymountainmattress and foamsweetfoam.   My guess if rockymountainmattress, since I also had a small tear in one the pieces I got from them.   I am not even sure they would inspect them.   They may come pre-packaged or drop shipped straight from Latex International. 


I was thinking rockymountainmattress.

The thing is, it's up to them (whoever sold it) to inspect it and make sure it's good; OR to make it good when a report comes in that it is damaged. Especially when photos are taken and sent.

When I got substandard goods from SleepEZ, they were totally agreeable to making it up to me. They offered me a good settlement without my having to say what I wanted to do or anything, they just came up with a good offer, I jumped at it, and appreciated their willingness to "make it right". That is how business should be done, and because of it I will order from them again. But this company - whoever it is who sold these damaged goods - is taking the attitude that "damaged goods are okay."

So, I'll vote with my lack of business to them, to say "No, it's not."

Again, it's no big deal that it has a tear; what IS a big deal is not offering a discount or something in return for the damage, and accepting fault for it instead of saying, for all practical purposes, "That's the way we sell stuff, so in the future, we don't want to hear about it!"

If I may get on my soap box for a minute, this is the "new attitude" of U.S. businesses and I don't like it. It used to be that many businesses felt the "customer is always right" and that is, to me, what makes a good company. This new attitude reflects a short-sightedness. Instead of buidling good word-of-mouth like Flobeds and SleepEZ, they are building "bad word of mouth". That is short-sighted and NOT the way to build a business, especially in this age of internet forums and reviews.

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Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #15 Mar 19, 2010 10:21 PM
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Jim: I could not agree more!yes
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Reply #16 Mar 21, 2010 8:46 PM
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Good post jim!

Here's an update on the situation: I let them know how disappointed I was in their customer service, saying I would no longer be a customer of theirs. I received an e-mail telling me that there's a miscommunication and they want to pay the cost of the swap.

I don't have the time or resources to swap latex. I don't want to take it off my bed, I don't have a carton, and I don't want to haul a 53 lb. box to FedEx! I'm going to write back and see if they'll offer a rebate. I think it's only fair considering I paid full price for something that was received in less than satisfactory condition.

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #17 Mar 26, 2010 9:51 AM
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This issue has now been resolved. I was offered the option of a 5% rebate or a completely paid for swap. I really would prefer to swap but I don't want to take the topper off, pack it up, and haul it to FedEx (it weighs over 50 lbs.!)., so I settled for the rebate.

Would I order from them again? Well I got one topper that was perfect, and then this damaged topper, so their track record is 50/50!

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #18 Mar 26, 2010 10:55 AM
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I ripped a small piece from my topper just unpacking it.  Latex is super fragile.  I'm quite pleased with the quality and value of my topper from RMM.
Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #19 Mar 26, 2010 2:23 PM
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5% rebate seems . .  . stingy to me.  I'd have asked for a minimum of 25% for that piece of latex.  Good to know there's one company I can avoid completely.
Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #20 Mar 26, 2010 5:16 PM
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zzzombie wrote:

I ripped a small piece from my topper just unpacking it.  Latex is super fragile.  I'm quite pleased with the quality and value of my topper from RMM.


I believe I would rephrase the statement, "latex is super fragile" to say that "it is somewhat fragile if handled improperly."

My principal experiences has been with all natural latex. But I did have one piece of blended latex and it seemed to handle pretty much the same as the all natural. This has been discussed on the form previously. The principal thing to keep in mind is that natural botanically grown latex is quite "floppy" and is heavy. Therefore it has to be handled judiciously.

The way that it has been described on various websites is that, a half piece of 3 inch latex from a California King mattress should be folded in thirds, like a letter, then lifted so you can get your arms around it and move it that way. The last thing you want to do is grab a handful of it and pull. Latex is also very "clingy" and will adhere to any other latex that it is next to. If you try to pull the latex with your hands, by grabbing it, my guess is that 9 times out of 10 you will tear it.

But by handling it as just described I don't believe I have ever torn a piece of latex, and I've handled quite a few.

Re: Damage or Normal Latex Imperfections?
Reply #21 Mar 26, 2010 7:50 PM
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KimberlyH I agree that it's a stingy offer, but at this point I just want to move on and enjoy my bed! As eagle2 points out, latex is fragile. I know I didn't tear my latex but maybe they think I did, and there's no way for me to prove this is the state the latex was in when I unpacked it.

eagle2 great point about folding the latex in thirds, I read about doing that here and it made setting up my bed so much easier. Another hint in handling latex - have a friend to help if you need to move it around because it's so clingy. Standing on opposite sides of the bed, each one of you should extend your arms and slip them under the latex to gently lift and reposition.

I'm soooo glad I found this forum. You folks are not only knowledgable and helpful but friendly, smiley and I can't tell you how thrilled I am with my new latex bed! Thanks to all of you!

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