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After much research (and reading posts in this forum!) we decided to replace our old "S" mattress with a latex model. I liked the product sold at Sleep EZ and Shawn was very helpful. We ordered the 10000 model (Queen size) with both sides configured Firm/Medium/Soft per Shawns recommendations. My wife is a side/back sleeper and is 120 lbs. I am primarily a front sleeper and weigh in at 150 lbs. I was initially concerned that a soft top layer would cause back issues for me but Shawn suggested that since I was relatively light weight the soft should be OK. I decided to go with his recommendations. We set up the bed on Tuesday and after 2 nights my wife and I were both pretty satisfied although I had a sense that it was a bot too soft for me. This morning I woke with intense lower back pain confirming my suspicion that I need more support. My wife continues to be happy with her side. So, I need to switch things up but not exactly sure how to proceed. Should I go with XFirm/Firm/Medium, Firm, Meduim, Medium? Something else? Anything I can try with what I have to get me through the next few nights? I plan to talk to Shawn to get his suggestions but since he already missed once I thought it would be good to get some other opinions. Thanks in advance for reading and any suggestions. |
| Our new layers arrived from Shawn at SleepEZ on Tuesday. With much anticipation I swapped out the 2 S layers for a F and XF. Both new layers went on my side as my wife continues to be pleased with her configuration (F/M/M). I set up the new layers as XF/F/M (bottom to top). I sensed a very noticable difference right away. The whole setup was much firmer and more to my liking. My first night was fairly comfortable. I woke up once because I was too hot but otherwise it felt OK. After the second night I woke up with back pain again. Not as bad as my previous set up but still pretty noticable. Still not sure what it is about this mattress that is causing me to have back pain. I will need to try something else tonight. Since the F may be too hard for me to sleep on I am thinking I may try XF/M and loose the F altogether just to see how it feels. As you may recall I am a stomach sleeper and need a fair amount of support to keep my back from sagging. I will post an update with more info. |
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Glad to hear you are making some progress. As we expected, you needed something firmer. XF/M should be a good experiment, but that may not have a lot of depth. If that seems close, then you probably want to add another XF on the bottom to use XF/XF/M. If you really want just a firm 3" base, get the XF in dunlop. I don't know if you tried F/XF/M. That should be slightly firmer than XF/F/M. p.s. I think stomach sleepers are the hardest to get right. As Phoenix noted, you maybe need an extra support under you hip area. Maybe a pillow or a 1" firm piece of foam to put under that area. This message was modified Jan 27, 2011 by sandman
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metamora wrote: Our new layers arrived from Shawn at SleepEZ on Tuesday. With much anticipation I swapped out the 2 S layers for a F and XF. Both new layers went on my side as my wife continues to be pleased with her configuration (F/M/M). I set up the new layers as XF/F/M (bottom to top). I sensed a very noticable difference right away. The whole setup was much firmer and more to my liking. My first night was fairly comfortable. I woke up once because I was too hot but otherwise it felt OK. After the second night I woke up with back pain again. Not as bad as my previous set up but still pretty noticable. Still not sure what it is about this mattress that is causing me to have back pain. I will need to try something else tonight. Since the F may be too hard for me to sleep on I am thinking I may try XF/M and loose the F altogether just to see how it feels. As you may recall I am a stomach sleeper and need a fair amount of support to keep my back from sagging. I will post an update with more info. how do you pack them and in what kind of box if any? are they not hard to fold and pack? how much is it costing you to "exchange" them? are you then getting "brand new layers" in exchange? Thanks. |
| As a stomach sleeper it did take me a week or so to adjust to the bed. I also "hug" a flat pillow so that a portion of it is under my hips (on the side my face is turned)/stomach and, whichever way my face is turned, that knee is bent up. Good luck and give it some time to adjust before switching it out. |
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roy1 wrote: how do you pack them and in what kind of box if any? are they not hard to fold and pack? how much is it costing you to "exchange" them? are you then getting "brand new layers" in exchange? Thanks. |
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I wanted to post an update on our saga so far in case anyone finds our experience useful or informative. I am anticipating the arrival of our second round of swapped layers from Sleep EZ today. I have been sleeping on the spare bed now for close to 4 of the past 6 weeks since we received our new mattress as I have not been able to find a combination of layers that does not cause my back to complain loudly. About 2 weeks ago I called Shawn at Sleep EZ and requested that he send out 2 more XF layers for my side as I have decided that nothing I have tried so far has provided the support that I need. I want to try XF/XF/XF and XF/XF/F (bottom to top). They happened to be out of stock on this item so it has taken longer than expected to receive the new layers. They should be here this evening. Curiously, my wife, who as you may recall had been pleased with her second round set up of F/F/M decided to use this opportunity to try out some of my layers, She put my XF on the bottom and then layered 2 F on top so she now has XF/F/F (bottom to top). After 4 days with this set up she prefers it and will likely need to call Shawn yet again to swap one of her M layers for an XF (as I will need to steal it back from her tonight!). So far my take away from this experience is that we started out with a mattress that was much too soft for both of us (F/M/S). I went with Shawn's recommendation (against my gut feel) and have spent much time fussing with these layers ovedr the past 6 weeks. Of course, it would have been better had we been able to try out various combinations locally before buying but I suspect that even this would not have been sufficient. I seem to require 3 nights on a new set up to know if it is going to work on not. My wife spent over 2 weeks before deciding her mattress was too soft. I have found this forum to be useful and I hope that my experience will prove valuable to someone embarking on a new latex mattress. It is clear to me after reading many threads here that everyone has a very particular need when it comes to finding a suitable mattress. I still do no not know if we will find the right combination of layers for me but with each new change I feel we are getting closer. I will post another follow-up after I have tried the new XF layers. I am hoping that this will do the trick. This message was modified Feb 12, 2011 by metamora
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I wanted to post a follow-up since our last (but not final) layer swap from SleepEZ. It has been a long 6 weeks since we received our mattress, however, I think we are nearing the point where we have both have found what works for us. I have been sleeping on XF/XF/XF for 6 nights now and find it to be very comfortable. My back pain is nearly gone, I sleep throught the night without waking up and feel well rested in the morning. I find that It is not too firm for me and not what I would call "rock hard" as described by some. It provides the support I need as a stomach speeper while not being too hard as a comfort layer. I actually called Shawn to ask if he had anything firmer that I could use as a base layer but he said I have the firmest available Talalay. I have a few more weeks to decide if I want to keep this set up but I think this will do the trick. I cannot imagine going to anything any softer than what I have. It does seem warmer than my old "S" brand mattress but with the winter we have been having here in New England I find little reason to complain. Perhaps in the summer it will bother me more. My wife has also been slowly migrating to a firmer bed. As you may recall, we both started out with Shawn's recommendation of F/M/S. I ended up with XF/XF/XF. Now my wife has F/F/M. She has tried out my XF as a base layer and now will be returning her M for an XF since she was happiest with XF/F/F (she is a side/back sleeper). So there you have it. It took us the better part of 6 weeks. My wife complained a bit about all the work swapping and shifting layers and packaging them up for shipping. When all is said and done, we will have ordered a total of 6 layers and returned 5 of them for firmer layers. SleepEZ was a pleasure to deal with and I feel that they have a quality product. I would recommend them to anyone looking to buy a latex mattress. This message was modified Feb 17, 2011 by metamora
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metamora wrote: I wanted to post a follow-up since our last (but not final) layer swap from SpeepEZ. It has been a long 6 weeks since we received our mattress, however, I think we are nearing the point where we have both have found what works for us. I have been sleeping on XF/XF/XF for 6 nights now and find it to be very comfortable. My back pain is nearly gone, I sleep throught the night without waking up and feel well rested in the morning. I find that It is not too firm for me and not what I would call "rock hard" as described by some. It provides the support I need as a stomach speeper while not being too hard as a comfort layer. I actually called Shawn to ask if he had anything firmer that I could use as a base layer but he said I have the firmest available Talalay. I have a few more weeks to decide if I want to keep this set up but I think this will do the trick. I cannot imagine going to anything any softer than what I have. It does seem warmer than my old "S" brand mattress but with the winter we have been having here in New England I find little reason to complain. Perhaps in the summer it will bother me more.
My wife has also been slowly migrating to a firmer bed. As you may recall, we both started out with Shawn's recommendation of F/M/S. I ended up with XF/XF/XF. Now my wife has F/F/M. She has tried out my XF as a base layer and now will be returning her M for an XF since she was happiest with XF/F/F (she is a side/back sleeper). So there you have it. It took us the better part of 6 weeks. My wife complained a bit about all the work swapping and shifting layers and packaging them up for shipping. When all is said and done, we will have ordered a total of 6 layers and returned 5 of them for firmer layers. SleepEZ was a pleasure to deal with and I feel that they have a quality product. I would recommend them to anyone looking to buy a latex mattress. |
| Roy, sorry for the omission. I have all talalay layers. I believe SleepEZ offers dunlop but it seems to me that most people go with talalay. Shawn recommended this to me as well. I have been pleased with it. At the XF level with an ILD of 44 Shawn tells me that there is little difference between the two. Since I have never seen dunlop I cannot comment on this. |
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Found this thread and I wanted to share our results with a sleepez 8500. We have had it for a few weeks and went with XF,F,S and F,M,S as our original configurations and have had similar issues as described above (ie have severe back pain after 5 days on med/firm). Planning on swaping out a couple of the layers to get much firmer. I tried out a XF,F,F and this was the best combination for me so far. We have taken the soft layers off the bed and been sleeping on just the two layers to test things out. I just sent the email and plan to call tomorrow to get the swap going... Hoping we can get this right this time and it doesnt take as many as described above. We love the idea of the latex bed but have to get the firmness right. :)
I will keep you informed.
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