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Hi there, I am looking for some advice on choosing between 2 mattresses. 1st a little history. I owned an Englander latex mattress for about 5 years. After the 4th year, it developed uncomfortable body impressions, just under 1.5" deep, so it didn't qualify for the warranty. So I went shopping for a new mattress 9 months ago. Sales person tried to get me to look at latex again, but I would have no part of it after my experience. So I went with a Sealy Posturpedic firm innerspring. It felt great for about 3 months, and now it too has very uncomfortable body impressions. The store has agreed to let me use their one time comfort exchange even though it is beyond the time limit. They carry the Sealy Embody line, which is a layer of latex ontop of a high density poly foam core. The one we are interested in(and the one we can afford) is the Inspiration. It has 3" of latex and 7" of the poly foam core. After my comfort exchange, I will have to pay another $1200 to get it. The other mattress we are considering is the Ikea Elsjford. It is 5.5" of synthetic latex, super firm, and no poly foam core, just latex. It is $599. I have read good things about Ikea latex mattresses. There are almost no reviews of the Embody line from Sealy because they are new. The Spring Free line had fairly good reviews, but they are no longer available here. So my question is......3" of natural latex ontop of 7" of poly foam or 5.5" of synthetic latex. The biggest thing we want to avoid are body impressions, and the poly foam core on the Sealy makes me nervous. Any help would truly be appreciated. Mike |
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It came from here http://www.ikeareviews.net/bedroom/sultan-elsfjord-latex-mattress/ and is the same mattress. It is probably the "most firm" of their mattresses but this is relative. A feeling of firmness is also dependent on many things ... and I personally would not put this mattress under anyone but a child or a very light adult. Synthetic latex is the "worst of the best". In general synthetic latex lacks the "resilience" of a blend or natural latex ... even though in a blend it does add "compression resistance" to the natural material according to the research I have read. The overall "feel" of blends or natural (combination of comfort and support and the ability to conform) is better. This mattress is also so thin that part of it's "firmness" would come from the thinness itself and it's feeling would be much more dependent on what it was placed on. I would at least consider the Erfjord (f and j reversed from your post) because it is a blend (high content of natural latex) and is thicker. I wouldn't consider the elsfjord. In WW ll, when natural rubber was not so easily available (to the allies anyway), they used a lot of SBR (synthetic latex) by necessity and they found that overall it did not have the same combination of desireable qualities of the natural material. Of course there has been a lot of research done since then. When Sealy first came out with their synthetic latex cores ... it was being touted as "the highest quality available" and as "state of the art". Interesting that they don't seem to be using them anymore and that they are now "glowing" about more natural versions of both Dunlop and Talalay. Phoenix This message was modified Oct 20, 2010 by Phoenix
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REDDOG1970 wrote:
This is the problem I am having with this whole thing. I called and spoke to Shaun at Sleepez yesterday. I like everything he said. He actually spoke nicely of the Sealy Spring Free line of latex, but did not know the quality of the Embody line. I am definately leaning toward the Sleepez mattress, and I'm trying to tell myself that even though the Embody was the most comfortable bed I have tried, it might not stay like that based on the core of the mattress. I understand that for the same money I can get a mattress that is 100% latex from Sleepez and better quality. My problem is that I can't try it out first, and that is difficult for me. Many other latex beds I have tried with the exception of the Ikea Elsjford where too soft. We have considered Costco but i'm afraid that the Costco bed would be too soft as well. Shaun said the Ikea has about a 40 ILD....Costco is quite a bit less. Still debating.
Mike The Ikea would certainly be a cheap alternative if you like it. I think you said it is all synthetic, which I would not be too excited about (never tried but supposedely the worst of the latex options). You can probably get one of the thinner Sleepez to keep the cost down, because sounds like you don't need it very thick or soft. This message was modified Oct 20, 2010 by sandman
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Phoenix, Does that person you are refering to have some pretty hilarious videos on the internet where he tells the world what latex is? Mike |
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No that's another one ... probably a cousin or something (laughing). Phoenix |
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I still can't believe I posted a link to that guy. I swear on everything sacred that it was an accident (laughing). But I guess that anything that gets a good laugh is a good accident. Phoenix |
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Phoenix, I saw in one of your other posts that you like the Pure Latex Bliss mattresses at Sleepys. There is a Sleepys very close to me. Now I was getting close to deciding on ordering from SleepEZ, so I was wondering if you or anyone else would rate one of these over the other. The Sleepys looks to be a little more expensive, but if it is better I would consider it since it is a 10 minute drive. Mike |
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I don't think it is necessarily better ... but that if you lay on it you would be laying on either 3 or 4 or 5" of latex over latex and that gives you a "known quantity" which can be a very good testing ground. They also have latex over coils which is less common. Having said that while I don't think they are necessarily the best "value" I do like the look of them ... even though I have no personal experience with them. Phoenix |
| I might go try one out tomorrow just to see how they feel. Wife is now sold on getting all latex as well, so the Embody is definately out. |
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Can anyone chime in on Pure Latex Bliss at Sleepy's? Went and looked at that today and the Pamper model was pretty comfortable. It is firm Talalay. Sleepys site says there is no quilt, fiber, or foam in the comfort layers. So hopefully body impressions wouldn't be a problem. The sales person also told me that the warranty covers any body impressions over 3/4". I will believe that if I see it in writing. The tag said the mattress is 90% Talalay and 10% poly, i'm just not sure where the poly is, but as long as it isn't in the comfort layer I feel better. So now i'm considering this mattress since I can try it out first. $1799. It is more then SleepEZ......thoughts?
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The pure latex bliss is all Talalay except all their models have 1" (the 10%) of firm poly at the very bottom for "support". This should not present a problem. Their own website confirms the .75" depression warranty so sagging and undue body depressions should also not be a problem. You would be sleeping on latex as they have no poly or fibre in any of the upper layers. As far as which represents the better value for you is part of the risk/reward thing that each of us have to decide for ourselves. I would choose either of them over the embody of course and the SleepEZ is a lower cost but what it is worth to buy a bed that you have actually laid on is a question that only you can answer. The most important thing is that everything is perfect for you. At least you are choosing between good options :) Phoenix This message was modified Oct 23, 2010 by Phoenix
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