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Whew! The Flobed arrived this afternoon in 3 boxes! I got all the pieces out and checked them to be sure I got everything ordered. I couldn't put it together right away because I was waiting on a foundation to be delivered. They finally brought the foundation around 6:30, so I got to work! Originally I intended to take pictures of the process, but then my DH came home and announced he wasn't helping, so I huffed all the pieces upstairs, laid out the cover as instructed, and began taking out the individual layers. Aside from each piece being heavy and unwieldly, it really wasn't too difficult to get the layers on the mattress cover. and adjust them. I did have to stop and take a 10 minute break after getting the first 2 layers on the bed (4 pieces). Layer 3 went on . . .and then the topper! That's where I ran into a little snag. I put the soft covoluted top layer on, and it's waaaay too big! It's marked a queen, but I'm pretty sure it's a king, lol. I get it lined up top to bottom and along one edge, and it overhangs the other side by about a foot! So . . .temporarily, I folded that piece up and set it aside and zipped up the other 3 layers into the cover. First impressions are, this bed is amazingly comfortable! I was worried about getting a firm/xfirm/xfirm, and I'll have to sleep on it a few nights, but oh la la! It's comfortable just to lie on. Very supportive, springy and bouncy, but not hard. Tomorrow I'll have to call Dewey and have a chat about the top layer. What I'd like is permission to just cut that piece to size without losing my 90 money back guarantee. I've been waiting so long for a comfortable mattress, I don't want to mail this one back and wait for another convoluted piece. If he says ok, I'll trim it down, unzip the cover, put the convoluted layer on . . . and ahhhhhh. I'll do as Eagle and report back on my experiences with my Flobed, though maybe not in the same precise detail. I can't wait to go to bed! |
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I've had my Flobed for a little over a month now, and thought I'd report back. I ordered both sides F/XF/XF. We slept like that awhile, then - My first change was to make my side F/F/XF and his side XF/XF/XF. I do like a cushy feel and thought this would be more to my taste. But, I found my side too soft and started sleeping on his side, which felt better. Then a few weeks ago I switched them back to F/XF/XF and F/XF/XF. This still felt too soft to me. So, I ordered another XF layer, which arrived yesterday, and now I have XF/XF/XF (me) and F/XF/XF (him). This was more comfortable for me. Sleeping on the Flobed has improved my sleep. I won't say the back issues have disappeared, but I'm much more able to have a good night's rest, and I don't wake up in the morning with back issues that were *caused* by the bed. Last night was a little rough to judge because my back was sore from moving around the latex layers and folding up and packing the Firm layer I'm returning. Also, the day prior, I was moving heavy furniture in my home (2 couches and a heavy entertainment unit) so my back really hurt. If we keep the Flobed though, I think the XF/XF/XF is the right combination for me. All three XF layers are 36 ILD, and this seems to emulate the feel of the Rhapsody bed (in Temperpedic terms) as being very firm with just the amount of give needed to alleviate pressure points. The 2" convoluted topper is 28 ILD. There seems to be enough room within the mattress cover to add another one inch layer, and I'm interested in exploring maybe an inch of 32 ILD below the convoluted layer. My husband has complained on and off about not being able to sleep and being uncomfortable. He asserts that he can sleep on anything, but I'm not sure the Flobed is comfortable for him. He liked the Tempurpedic Rhapsody and he wanted that bed. When I dragged him to the showroom to try out the Tempurpedics, he laid on several, and when he got to the Rhapsody he just fell asleep on me, lol. I let him snooze for 15 minutes, then work him up and he said "I like this bed!" I'm going to give this another month with the Flobed and then and sit him down for a heart to heart about speaking up if the mattress isn't working out for him. Or, maybe I'll have him sleep on my XF/XF/XF side for awhile and see if he likes that better. |
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Hi Kimberly and Others, Thanks for the update. Maybe I'm not remembering but I thought you had said awhile back that your husband loved the Flobed (while you were the one who wasn't so sure)? Anyway, I was wondering what happened... did it just started feeling less comfortable to him or what (or am I not remembering correctly?) Here's an update from my experience. I kept my Flobed even though I can't say it's totally perfect... but then I don't think any bed set-up is (at least not for me). As I mentioned in a post awhile back, since obviously it wasn't possible to take what I felt was best (as per my needs) from several different companies, I picked the one I felt overall most confident about in terms of both product and customer service (and which allowed returns). And that was Flobeds (and they were indeed great to work with). I find my comfort level changes so much depending on my overall body comfort level (I have some ongoing health issues). And I definitely seem to be in the "princess and the pea" category of people... Right now I'm trying to resolve the problem that the pain in my hip is much exacerbated when I lie on my side, which is my preferred sleeping position. This isn't so much a problem with the bed as an ongoing health problem I have. Anyway, even with a soft layer on top, I'm getting it, but not as badly as with a medium layer on top (though the medium layer on top feels better in terms of my lower back). Actually the medium top layer would be fine if I could just learn to sleep only on my back.. but I keep finding myself turned onto my side (conditioned by years of side sleeping). As I also mentioned on another thread awhile back, I have a wool mattress pad (from 20 years ago) which works very well for me in terms of temperature regulation. I know may other people have posted that the wool pads don't work for them or even make the bed feel warmer, so obviously we're all very different in terms of what works. Anyway, I don't know how my pad compares to say the snugfleece or others. But in looking at a pictures of others, mine appears to have longer fleece (hooked to a woven wool backing) and not as dense, so it packs down quite flat, though it's still thickesh. It's also not superwash (which may or may not make a difference; superwash wool actually coats the individual wool strands with a type of synthetic polymer in order to keep the natural wool barbs from felting when washed. It also makes the wool feel softer, but I don't know if it has any impact on the feeling of heat). I have actually always preferred the feeling of the latex without the extra wool topper pad, but every time I took it off, I was less comfortable heat-wise (even thought I tend to run cold and have a lower body tempo than average, I would get slightly sweaty without the pad). However, because the pain in my hip has been getting worse, I decided to take it off again, and see if that would help or hinder the pain. Turns out I am a bit more comfortable without it in terms of pressure point and nerve pain . Go figure because wool pads are suppose to really help with these things! Just goes to show, I guess, how individual we are and sometimes it goes quite contrary to how it's "suppose" to work. I'd still prefer the pad in terms of temp regulation, though it's not as problematic as it was now that the weather here is very cold (and our bedroom is quite cool as we have no central heat, though it's also not very hot at night in the summer where I live, but it's much, much colder now). So I guess I'm one of the people who find the wool pad "cooler in summer", which I know goes against common sense and experience for others! If I have to continue to leave the wool topper off in terms of getting improvement in the hip pain (though I wish I didn't have to), I am going to try and find a very lightweight wool mattress cover instead of cotton. By the way, I just checked my old topper and it's a "Woolrich Orthorest". I don't know if they are still made. I got mine in Canada over 20 years ago. I used it for years on my old mattress (along with another wool-filled topper), but that bed had only one layer of very thin, very firm Dunlap latex. I think with the Flobed it actually interferes with the mattress comfort (except in term of heat regulation) instead of helping as it did with my other. But then my Flobed is way softer and thicker, so not comparable at all to my old bed. I still have my bed set up (top to bottom) soft, firm, firm on one side and medium, medium, X-firm on the other. ( I'm 5 51/2, 130 lbs). My husband is flexible in terms of what he can sleep on (most anything), even thought his side was suppose to be medium, firm, X-firm. Sweet dreams to all, Linda This message was modified Nov 26, 2009 by linda
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Hi Linda! You know, I think you're right, I did post that my husband loved the bed. He told me he did and I think he still feels that way. It's just that he's been complaining about lack of sleep lately, and has seemed to be having trouble getting comfortable in bed, which has me wondering. However, this could also be due to other factors, like stress, and he did hurt his leg running last week. Or it could be because I've been rearranging layers to suit my experimental needs and when he gets the leftover layers, they aren't quite right for him. To be honest, he's so fed up with this mattress odyssey (as are my other family members) they roll their eyes and tune out every time I start talking about them. They just clam up. So I'm just guessing. Linda, it really sounds like you need that zoned layer that Flobeds sells. That way you could vary the softness/firmness by body zone and take care of your hip and back at the same time. When I told them I had hip and lower back pain, they recommended the zoned layer, but I didn't want the extra expense and knowing myself as I do, I was worried I would be continually indecisive about what firmnesses to put in each zone. |
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| Wow, I just saw my last post and the paragraph formatting didn't go through. Don't know why, but it sure makes it unreadable. Sorry for those of you who persisted through it. Anyway, I just tried to edit it and put doublespace between paragraphs and have no idea why it's still coming out as one long paragraph. If anyone can help, let me know and I'll try again so it's more readable. Kimberly, I did try the zoned layer but it didn't seem to work for me... The second night I was on it I woke up with terrible pain; I think cause I had moved off the "correct" zone and gotten twisted or something. I don't know, Perhaps I should have given it a longer try, but I just felt it wasn't for me (which is what I felt in the beginning and so didn't order it with the bed originally). Good luck with tweaking your bed, and I hope your husband ends up liking it. I know my husband got tired of hearing about bed stuff during my decision-making process and then with shifting around the layers... Well as I said, it's not perfect, but I think that's primarily cause of my health issues.... it's very good, given those, though, and waaaaayyy better than any other bed I've ever had. I'm hoping to get adjusted to sleeping on my back which will help I think. |
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Linda: I can't imagine what the problem is with the formatting, as I have not had any problems using Firefox. I avoided the zoned FlowBeds due to the same problem that others have mentioned regarding, "making up my ever loving mind" about what firmness I was going to want. Given the experience I've had so far, I feel confident I made the right choice by avoiding zoning. I am going to try something next week that I've been quite interested in for some time now. I have ordered a firm layer of blended latex. I will be able to roll back and forth, from one side of my California King to the other, and check out how I like a blended piece of firm, compared to a 100% botanically grown natural firm piece of latex. It will be worth the trouble to actually have my own laboratory and check this difference out. I will be sure to report back and let everyone know what I think. Linda, keep the faith and just keep on trying till you find the proper firmness for you. This is the luxury that we who have purchased from FlowBeds have. I can't help but feel some of the criticism that we have endured lately from folks who seem to think that those of us who post possibly about FlowBeds, are shills, is due to the fact that they are a little envious of our ability to have access to this generous exchange policy. I know I have paid more to FloBeds than I would have had to pay to some other niche market latex suppliers. But it was worth it to me to have the generous exchange policy, and return policy, given the fact that our mattresses were purchased over the Internet. This message was modified Nov 26, 2009 by eagle2
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| Thanks for your comments Eagle. I see that my second post is also coming through as one long paragraph. Earlier today I updated my browser (Safari) to the latest so I don't know if that could have something to do with it...? Strange, as I know my earlier posts to the group didn't have this problem. I have enough different layers to try many combinations (and have done so) and the two I described seem to be the best and the ones that I've returned to over and over again. As at this point, I am hoping I can learn to sleep on my back (the bed is quite comfortable that way) and that some health issues will perhaps shift for the better (they've been even worse as of late)... If anyone has experience with wool mattress pads, and have any recommendations, please let me know. Thanks. I'm posting this as 4 paragraphs, but unfortunately it will probably come through as one long one. Oh, just had an idea to try; will see if that works. Sorry to any of you reading this if it doesn't. Then off to bed. It's late! Linda |
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linda wrote: Formatting still didn't work. I"m stumped.... Linda: I'm guessing you're formatting problems have something to do with the way your browser is set up. This business of updating can cause all kinds of problems in the computer world. Believe me! I know what I'm talking about. I've been going through it today. Don't ask! Look within your browser regarding formatting. You should find something there. Just a guess, I'm no computer Guru, and that's a fact. One thing you might try before going to bed. Do some mild and gentle stretching exercises. Particularly on the floor laying on your back. I have had back trouble for years, a lot more when I played tennis. My knee went and had to give up the sport. But one exercise that helped my back was laying on the floor on my back and pulling my knees up and then rolling forward and backward and side to side. Just do something to stretch out the muscles and ligaments so that you can relax when you go to bed. Just don't overdo it. Good luck, you have my best wishes!  |
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eagle2 wrote: Kimberly said, "First night's report - whew! the latex really smells. I know this will dissipate quickly, it's not necessarily an unpleasant smell, nor is it overpowering, but it has a slightly sweet, rubbery smell." "Eagle, yes, I did buy the blended talalay and yes, I would characterize the odor as somewhat sweet, it was not at all unpleasant. It was just there. Actually, by the morning I didn't notice it anymore." My assumption is that the excessive odor that you referred to, earlier in this thread, is due to the fact that it is a blended product. What alerted me was your comment that it smells like rubber. The rubber smell that we have learned to associate with rubber, or what we call rubber, is due to petrochemical involvement in the manufacture of these products. After unpacking my bed and smelling actual 100% natural botanically grown Talalay latex, and detecting this sweet cookie dough like odor, was the first time I had actually smelled natural rubber. I'm sure that once your mattress has aired out somewhat, this order will go away. The odor I associate with my mattress is already diminishing considerably. I kind of hate to have it leave, actually. I've grown to rather like it. Thank you for this information. I am very sensitive to chemical odors (i even once had an electronic keyboard that had an odor new out of the box, that still bothered me 6 months after airing out- that no one else seemed to notice). So if I go latex I will try to splurge on 100% botanically grown latex. |
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What the mind does to memory. I see that I reported it really smelled. Now I don't remember the smell being overpowering at all. But yes, sounds like you might be better off with the 100% botanically grown latex. I just got a new layer the other day from Flobeds, and I didn't notice any smell at all from it. BTW, I asked my husband this morning about the bed. He says he likes it a lot, and he doesn't think his sleep issues are related to the mattress in any way. So that answers that question. |