My Foambymail DIY Mattress - Report with Pictures
Jun 6, 2011 10:36 PM
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After all the help I received here, I wanted to report on our new foambymail (aka The Foam Factory, and here just "FBM") mattress.  We ordered on 5/27/11, and even with the Memorial Day Holiday, received our order exactly 1 week later on 6/3/11.

Here is what we ordered: 

Latex:  6" 36 ILD core + 2" 32 ILD mid-core + 2" 20 ILD topper (all 100% natural talalay), upgrade to 10" Terry cloth cover, at a cost of $1,216 total with free shipping.

Foundation:  http://www.amazon.com/Thick-Foundation-memory-latex-mattresses/dp/B002RVCSRI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1305859732&sr=8-3  $229 with free shipping.  I added 4 more slats to this to bring the spacing from 3.75" to 2".  Cost at Home Depot was around $10.

Pad/Protector/Topper:  undecided at this point

For background on how we got to this point, see my thread here:  http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/advice-needed-my-diy-all-latex-project/19004-A-1.html

So, here are the pics:

We are absolutely loving our new FBM DIY mattress.  As we were putting together the layers, the two 2" layers were not labeled with ILD numbers or descriptors "medium"/"soft."  However, it was very obvious which one was softer.  Laying just on the 3 layers of latex, without even the terry cloth cover, the mattress was very, very soft (but still supportive).  However, there was a bit of a jiggly feel to it that others have mentioned.  I wonder if a firmer Dunlop core would feel as jiggly.  With the terry cloth cover on, the mattress felt slightly firmer and less jiggly.  Overall, I consider the feel of this mattress soft, but it is very supportive - sort of the best of both worlds.

It is amazing how much anything on top changes the feel of the latex.  Since I was unsure of what mattress pad or topper I might want to go with, I first tried this one (http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=110636&RN=559&) I picked it up at Bed, Bath & Beyond with a 20% off coupon just because they have such a liberal return policy.  I liked how this pad gave a slightly more "enveloping"/"sink in" feel to the mattress, but it actually firmed up the mattress a little too much.  Also, after sleeping on a natural feather bed for years, this pad with poly fill felt hot to me.  We took it back to BB&B the next day.  Just for kicks, we did an even exchange for this 2" featherbed topper (http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=126595&RN=560&) which is on order for us.  In the meantime, we have slept 2 nights with just a fleece winter sheet (for some protection of the mattress) under our normal cotten summer sheet.  This feels really nice and we're both sleeping great as is, but I did like the little more enveloping, plush feel the pad gave.  My guess is that we will ultimately take back the 2" featherbed too, but I'd rather try different options from a store that allows returns.  We may love it and be done, but I am thinking we will end up with a thinner topper comprised of either down/feather or wool. My thought here is that anything in the 1/2" to 1" range will give a cush feel but still allow the latex to do the job of supporting us, and the natural fibers will do the job of regulating temperature.  I have scoured the net looking at options in this thickness and am considering the following:  http://www.thedownstore.com/catalog/mattresspads&toppers/downmattresspads&toppers.htm (1/2" pure down pad for $225), http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/57166?pi=950603&subrnd=0&qs=3006448_pmd_amazon (all down pad for $189), or http://www.naturaworld.com/topper-classic (18oz per s.y. wool fill topper for $220 from The DownStore).  If we end up deciding that we want to keep the feel as is, we'll go with the Dormier pad - http://www.flobeds.com/product_details.htm?ID=2140EK ($160).  If anyone has any other recommendations or thoughts on the pad/topper, I would love to hear them.

Overall, we are extremely pleased with our new latex mattress and the experience we had with FBM.  I am glad to answer any questions.

-Cliff

Re: My Foambymail DIY Mattress - Report with Pictures
Reply #1 Jun 6, 2011 11:16 PM
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Beautiful! Love the pics and the way you laid it out so we can see exactly how you achieved your great results! Please keep us posted! Thanks!!
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Reply #2 Jun 7, 2011 12:50 AM
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All I can say is WOW!  Nice looking latex and you turned that minimal foundation into a quality founddation.  I agree that you want to sleep as close to the latex as possible.  I purchased this moisture barrier as it is thin and less expensive than others http://www.amenityhome.com/bedroom/organic-bedding/matress-protector.html  Those photos should convince people that DIY is a good option.
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Reply #3 Jun 7, 2011 2:15 AM
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sleepswithcats wrote:

 

All I can say is WOW!  Nice looking latex and you turned that minimal foundation into a quality founddation.  I agree that you want to sleep as close to the latex as possible.  I purchased this moisture barrier as it is thin and less expensive than others http://www.amenityhome.com/bedroom/organic-bedding/matress-protector.html  Those photos should convince people that DIY is a good option.


How do you like it so far? I've been searching for something thin and waterproof that is not polyurethane. This may just fit the bill. Thanks for posting that as I had not run across it. 

 

Also, thanks to the OP for the great photos. 

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Reply #4 Jun 7, 2011 2:41 AM
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I have yet to receive the mattress, mattress pad or the bed and nightstand.  They will ship together.  Still have another month of torturous waiting.  I think there are a number of places that sell similar puddle pad, moisture barrier, but they were quite a bit more in price.  I didn't want anything bulky to take away from that nice latex feeling.
Re: My Foambymail DIY Mattress - Report with Pictures
Reply #5 Jun 8, 2011 11:54 AM
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This is exactly what I'm considering.

Thanks so much for the pics and explanation of your choices.

 

Still awaiting your decision on what you'll go with for a top cover. We'd probably want to sleep as cool as possible.

 

Do you happen to have a pic of laying on the bare latex and how it compresses in each layer with a person's weight?

Any problems or noise with the foundation you chose?

 

Thanks again!

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Reply #6 Jun 8, 2011 2:19 PM
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I'm envious of you. Wonderful mattress!! Tell me this, when you were moving you pieces, did you got shocked? While my wife and I were moving our topper, we were getting shocked like hell. 
Re: My Foambymail DIY Mattress - Report with Pictures
Reply #7 Jun 8, 2011 6:22 PM
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Appreciate all of the positive comments!  Glad the pics are helpful.

 

mattman, sorry I didn't get any shots of my wife laying on just the latex.  I would offer to do it, but the terry cloth cover is a pain to zip on and off.  We have no noise problems at all with the foundation.  As I mentioned, I did screw in all of the slats in 3 places while the instructions called for only the first and last slats to be attached by screws.

 

need2sleep, I didn't get shocked when installing in our bedroom.  However, we moved our old mattress set into our daughter's bedroom temporarily just for her to have fun jumping on, and I moved the soft topper in there to see what a latex topper felt like on a spring mattress.  When I went to collect it and move it back, I don't think I've ever been shocked so hard by static electricity.  Ouch!

 

The mattress continues to sleep great with no additional topper.  I was tired early last night which is rare for me, so I slept a solid 9 hours last night without waking.  I awoke with no pains or twinge in my low back as I sometimes might have in the past.  The featherbed will arrive Friday, so I'll report back after we try it.

 

Re: My Foambymail DIY Mattress - Report with Pictures
Reply #8 Jun 11, 2011 1:35 PM
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Ok, so the featherbed came in yesterday and I returned it to BB&B the same day.  It ended up being much thicker than I thought it was, and it totally removed all of the latex feel.  It basically felt just like our old setup of a featherbed on top of the spring mattress, and I could tell it was going to have the lumpy, crushed out feel of our old featherbed in no time.  At least it didn't cost anything to try it.

 

In continuing my search for a pad or topper, I narrowed down my search to wool fill pads.  From reading, wool seems clearly superior certainly to snythetic fibers and even down.  Before going with the Dormier, I at least would like to try a wool pad with some cushy, softness to go over the latex.  I'm sleeping very comfortably now, but still would like a little more of a cush, plush feel.

I've spent probably hours pouring through various sites.  Besides wool being pretty expensive, most sites that had a pad that I would like to try had a no return policy for their mattress pads.  Well I just stumbled on this pad at Sierra Trading Post (I use STP often for gear or outdoor clothing, and didn't realize that they have bedding):  http://www.sierratradingpost.com/p/,2786T_Downtown-Mattress-Pad-King-Merino-Wool-Fill-Anchor-Bands.html  Using the one day site coupon of 20% off, I've got this coming to me with shipping for $167.  Unfortunately, it looks as if I bought the last one.  There were more reviews for the queen size, and they were all very positive.  Here is the manuf. website with more details:  http://www.downtowncompany.com/matress_pads.html (hover over the middle left picture to see detail, click for description - 100% merino wool obtained from free range sheep, 100% cotton cover).  Looks to be about 1.25" thick.  I'm excited about this find for that price, and best of all it is returnable with STP if I don't like it.

I ran across 2 pads in my research that seem interesting - one as a possible Dormier alternative at a lower price, and the other as an expensive, but high quality thick pad.  Here is the inexpensive one:  http://www.gatewaymattressfactory.com/30.html (quilted wool with cotten cover, $119 queen, $139 king).  Here is the really nice one:  http://www.gatewaymattressfactory.com/27.html (cotton/bamboo blend cover, quilted wool, .8" layer of latex, 2" total thickness, for $289 queen and $359 king).  If it weren't so expensive (and probably non-returnable), I would love to try this pad.  It looks really nice.

I'll report back on the DownTown wool pad when we receive it.

-Cliff

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Reply #9 Jun 11, 2011 9:45 PM
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This thread is a great resource - thanks for making the efforts to post the pics. It really helps put the whole process together.

How difficult do you think it would be to move that mattress with just the terry cloth cover if you had to? Do you think you'd have to break it back down to do so?

I'm also trying to decide on what cover to put over the latex layers I end up buying - looking forward to hearing your results.

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Reply #10 Jun 11, 2011 11:33 PM
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proof1st, you're welcome - glad the pics are helpful. 

I would definitely break the mattress down to move it.  If for no other reason than the total weight of the thing is 167lbs (101+33+33).  It would be a beast to move, and the 2" layers might get torn.