Mattress Forum

The only comparison I can offer is that the 19 ILD convoluted from Flobeds was noticably softer than the 22-24 ILD, 2" non-convoluted layer (I had purchased from Sleepez) that I tried on top of the zoned layer.  I would say that compared to a 19 ILD non-convoluted layer of the same depth, it would still be softer.  I hope this helps.

They had a special sale back in October/November on seconds.  I don't know of any place on their web site.  I assume that they will do it again in the future and they periodically run sales similar to the Mother's Day sale that just went off.

You could ask them if they have any seconds or just wait for the next sale.  Give them your email and they will send you sale information when they come up.

As far as the half zoning/half non-zoning thing, call and ask them. I would think that they might if it will help them make a sale and it's easy to do.  I think they will work with you.  I bought the other core months later and they have a guarantee.  I thought they were very reasonable to work with as long as you are reasonable.  They do want to make you happy if they can.  They best thing is to call and have a conversation.  It's a fairly small operation I think.

I am in email conversations with both Flobeds and SleepEZ. It looks like the cost of the Vzone (alone) is $1000! A queen in the Posture select (6" core + 2" topper) is $2k, the Posture Vzone (6" core + Vzone + 2" topper) is $3k.. looks like i'll be getting that on sale or a DIY..

How much weight do you place on the site recommendations? SleepEZ recommended S/M/F for me (top to bottom) and S/F/XF for my BF - but are their ILD's different than FloBeds who also rec M/F for me and F/XF for BF.?

EDITED: yes the ILD's are off,

flobeds recs M (28) / F (32) for me compared to

SleepEZ M (30-32) / F (38-40)...

am i overthinking ( i guess my reasoning is ILD is more "standard") ? and should just go w/their recs.?

Thank you.  That helps to nudge estimates/expectations along.

GK

You are right about the ILD's being different and Sleepez does not have a convoluted layer on top as far as I know.  Here are their ILDs:  http://www.sleepez.com/mattresscomponents.htm

My feeling is that 22 ILD is not soft enough for a side sleeper with my weight (or yours) unless your dimensions for the hip and shoulders (and waist?) are fairly close to being the same.  I believe I have seen complaints about this on this forum in the past about Sleepez being too hard for side sleepers and I don't think they offer a softer "topper" if it is.  I found 22-24 ILD from them to be too "hard" for me but I'm old and more sensitive to the feel....believe me, I've tried many combinations using different products from Flobeds and Sleepez and SLAB.  I believe that I have also seen on this forum many who got the same recommendation from Sleepez (F/M/S) and rarely anything different.  This is where Flobeds might have an advantage in that they have more variation in their recommendations and they have the Vzone.  Along with that I don't like the wider range of ILDs from Sleepez ---22-24 for soft then, next 32 ILD for Medium---where Flobeds' range between ILDs is closer---22 to 28 ILD (for Medium).  That being the case, Flobeds also offers the 2" of 19 ILD comfort layer (convoluted) on top of most of their mattresses (at least the vzone) which I think side sleepers can appreciate more.  If you are going the Sleepez route, you could build your own probably cheaper with handpicked ILDs from SLAB, Sleepez, or Arizona Mattresses.  If you go the DIY route, you could just get a zipper cover for your mattress and save even more money.

I personally think that Custom Sleep Design has the best zoned mattress model but their cost when I called to check, was way beyond my budget.  Flobeds is next best, IMHO.  When I bought mine from Flobeds, the price was comparable to what I would have paid for a DIY mattress so I couldn't pass it up.

I think you have to start with their recommendation and work from there.

strange,just a couple of months ago the customs sleep guy told me that they only sell blended talalay latex and blended talalay latex is much better then natural talalay and lasts much longer. now they are selling all natural talalay latex!!!!!

The price has more then doubled for same size mattress, bordering on absurd.

One nice thing about dealing with them is you can buy a topper and later finish the whole bed and not lose any money.  I intend to later get  custom his/her medium and firm layers (2  3" layers) giving me a 10" mattress, including the topper I ordered today (which comes with a decent cotton cover). I can later either get a 7000 series (7") with the 7000 cover and keep the 19 topper as a "pillow top" or they'll give me a 10000 (10") cover if I want to then put my 19 within  the cover. Sean said some people prefer the first way, as it is slightly softer.   Anyway, Sleep EZ has good prices on them now (around $520 for a King, $570 in 100" natural), and they are a reputable dealer. The point I'm trying to make is that they can provide any ILD you want.

Ok now i'm more confused, b/c part of me felt that Flobeds wasn't "firm" enough for me (being a side sleeper and preferring a firmer vs softer mattress support), once seeing the ILD that SleepEZ was recommending (and for the record they were S/F/F for my BF! LOL). i am not sure my shoulder dimensions but i'm hippier than my waist but don't have a super huge difference b/w them either.

What is the main difference b/w convoluted and non?

Also, I was considering a DIY from SLAB, but how would you customize the sides ? i couldn't figure out which sizes to buy to have M/F on my side and F/F or F/XF on my boyfriends AND be cheaper .. i think at this point i am not going to do the zoning..possibly in the future but Flobeds said their cover for the posture select won't fit and i'm awaiting his response on how much a larger cover would cost in the future if i decide to add a layer

asotuba wrote:

good to know...maybe i'll inquire on this as well. thanks!

i asked Kristina (the one whom i've been corresponding with) about ILDs and she had a very professional answer saying if the company has a very reputable foam sources, then they have chosen the ILD that they have had the best experience with and that it is all personal (i'm not doing her justice in her response)

but i also asked her about adding layers (vs increasing/decreasing firmness) and covers in the future (as in ordering a larger one, etc like i asked Flobeds)

When I use the FloBed website configurator, I get the typical recommendation... xf-f-m.  But I find this typical recommendation to be not quite firm enough... but being typical, it allows for switching layers around to try variations, which might be their intention... to give you more options at home.  If their configurator recommended xf-xf-m or xf-f-f, I would have less options to try... but those builds are probably closer to what my height/weight requires.

GK

I realize that a slight change in ILD "might" make a difference in my preference but I shouldn't worry about that right now. AS long as either company (flo or SleepEZ) can work with me if i'm not happy.

As far as i understand it, SleepEZ allows for two switchouts and that would be $60 ($30 each for shipping), while Flobeds doesn't state a max switchout or a price..correct?

Is there anything I"m missing or need to know about either company before I decide? or something I"m totally missing on a DIY (only really see where the price is cheaper when you buy one 6" core and thus prevents easily changing my side of the bed if i need an alteration)

OH and i slept on the couch last night and did not wake up with a sore lower back. i.e. firmer is better for me! however my shoulder still hurt