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I am considering buying this topper but I was reading on Amazon that everyone received yellowed and stain looking toppers and not what they looked like in the picture. They were also complaining about being too short. Maybe Amazons' were seconds but I was wondering if yours looked like the picture (whch is white) or was yours yellowed. Is it very firm or does it seem supportive. My husband has had neck and back fusions and I am trying to find something to help him be some what comfortable. I am also considering buying the cuddlebed mattress pad too. I am worried though that it wouldn't fit in my oversize washing machine as a bought a fluffy mattress pad from kohls and did not have good results with it holding up. Thanks for your help, Emi |
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BeddyBye wrote: Oh, good, you were able to get them all! I take it you ordered a Queen sized Ultimate CuddleBed Plus from Costco.com? I forgot, what type of mattress do you have? I mean, what will be underneath the Dream Coil and CuddleBed? That can make a difference, too. I have a somewhat cushion-firm zippered, LuraFlex coil mattress with a wee bit of xtra-firm HR PU foam and two inches of 32 ILD talalay latex with a quilted cover. Not too bad by itself, actually. But, the combination of the Dream Coil and CuddleBed just seem to add something special to it. And, yet I don't feel I'm laying on a pile of foam toppers like I was for a short while when I experimented with memory foam and latex on top. Not only did it "argue" with my lower back, but it took a ladder or a flying leap to get into bed every night. :) I hope you'll be able to find the right match like I did. :)
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I got my Dream Coil topper yesterday and I was so excited. I pulled the 2.5" convoluted HR foam one off the bed that I had been using (bought at a local fabric/foam outlet and don't know ILD except they call it "mattress grade" foam). The old foam is in great shape and very comfortable but just a little too hard to roll over on--had to get a little momentum and it would awaken me. So... After sleeping on the Dream Coil I woke up a bit achy and so did my husband although that can randomly happen with us anyway. We both felt we tossed and turned more to get comfortable although the bed felt heavenly when we first went to sleep. If I put my old convoluted HR topper back on with the Dream Coil on top it will be too high and probably be even more bouyant. Should I try a 1-2 inch piece of latex under the dream coil? We tried the dream coil so we could have better support in our lower back since my husband uses a CPAP machine and needs to stay on his back for the oxygen and mask to work most successfully. Just to refresh everone's memory--I have a sealy springfree bed that has a 6" Dunlop core, 34 ILD, then 3 layers of I" talalay with ILD's of 37, 28, and 19 in that order. It has some PU foam on top as well. I really need some help here. This mattress felt so comfortable when I first got it but after sinking into it during the night it felt hard the next morning, thus my topper experimentation. You all are the pros and I do need advice before trying another topper even if its talalay latex. Thanks in advance--Sabra |
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Sabra, I am so stressed from my deadlines that I have to try to complete today despite coughing all night (think I need to wash my oversized Queen Comforter but I have no time to go to the laundry mat until after April 15th... unless this is not allergies and I am having a relapse from being sick for so long due to being run down from my car accident and my father's death last year) but I am taking a short break to see what is up on this forum to see if it will temporarily get my mind off of what I am still missing for finishing all there returns to have less extensions. Sabra, It is unfortunate that you can not unzip the Sealy cover to rearrange the latex cores to give you the comfort you each need on each side of the bed. But since you can't, I am still thnking with a little more effort and a lot of patience, you can find a way to make your bed doable for you and your husband. I am thinking that if you have not tried the 1" Talalay Latex topper from Brylane, then you should since the return policy is excellent and it is soft and made very well and only 1" thick. Then you can see how the bed is only with this topper under a fitted sheet and then try it under the Dream Coil Topper. If you end up loving the topper, then you should find a cover for it, even if it is just a thin cotton duvet cover on sale. I have my topper under the zippered cover of my FloBed. I like the topper very much for cushion for my shoulders but I had to make my bed firmer underneath me (which I could do do to the zippered cover by moving the latex cores around) to make the topper work for me since I like very firm beds despite my petite size. I do not like sinking in and that is why my latex cores are all more than 35 ILD on my side of the bed with a 44 ILD in the equation but a soft 1 inch topper over the three thicker latex cores. After my car accident my back is not the same so I feel bad for anyone with back problems that can really affect a good night's sleep as muscle spasms and nerve pinching changes each night. I am sorry about your husband. |
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Hmmmm....we need someone with "topper expertise". I've never felt achy from the Dream Coil topper...at least not the way I would if I had just slept the night on a WAY too hard or soft mattress. Been there, done that. However, this chronic sacroiliacitis is just something that seems to be there no matter where I sleep. And, some nights are worse than others. I don't blame that on my mattress or toppers, though. It's just nice to find something that feels good overall, regardless of the little aches and pains that seem to be coming on as I get older (and more out of shape:) For me, I think the CuddleBed might just be enough cushioning to make the Dream Coil more comfortable. I've never tried it alone. And, I really do think their lifetime warranty saying the Dream Coil will never go flat is TRUE. I've found that it feels softer or firmer for me at times. Like you, it just about always feels perfect when I get into bed. Even though I've never awakened with hip pain or pressure points, I do notice it feeling firmer sometimes. But, not so much that I feel like it's TOO hard. If I had my druthers, I prefer a bit too firm than sink-in-soft. My lower back just hates that. I think one of the times it feels the coziest is in the early morning and I'm still sleepy. You know that feeling when your bed is just so comfy you don't want to get out. It's then that I really savor the cradling and supportive texture of the Dream Coil and CuddleBed. As for you, you might try a 1" layer of medium or soft latex under the Dream Coil. Better yet, on top, maybe. I know that Omalon is often used a a supportive layer with something softer over that. I've seen that with memory foam and Omalon attached to the bottom. Maybe that's why my CuddleBed works so well with it. I know others here will have some good advice for you! I just hope that you can make it work for you! ***************************************** from Sabra: I got my Dream Coil topper yesterday and I was so excited. I pulled the 2.5" convoluted HR foam one off the bed that I had been using (bought at a local fabric/foam outlet and don't know ILD except they call it "mattress grade" foam). The old foam is in great shape and very comfortable but just a little too hard to roll over on--had to get a little momentum and it would awaken me. So... After sleeping on the Dream Coil I woke up a bit achy and so did my husband although that can randomly happen with us anyway. We both felt we tossed and turned more to get comfortable although the bed felt heavenly when we first went to sleep. If I put my old convoluted HR topper back on with the Dream Coil on top it will be too high and probably be even more bouyant. Should I try a 1-2 inch piece of latex under the dream coil? We tried the dream coil so we could have better support in our lower back since my husband uses a CPAP machine and needs to stay on his back for the oxygen and mask to work most successfully. Just to refresh everone's memory--I have a sealy springfree bed that has a 6" Dunlop core, 34 ILD, then 3 layers of I" talalay with ILD's of 37, 28, and 19 in that order. It has some PU foam on top as well. I really need some help here. This mattress felt so comfortable when I first got it but after sinking into it during the night it felt hard the next morning, thus my topper experimentation. You all are the pros and I do need advice before trying another topper even if its talalay latex. Thanks in advance--Sabra This message was modified Today by This message was modified Apr 5, 2008 by BeddyBye
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OK, to add to this thread - or take from it! ;) We've got a Sealy latex bed with the top layer broken down enough that we've got achey backs (after only 3 years) and we have two houses we're paying on right now (thanks housing crisis! LOL!) so we can't afford the new layered latex bed we'd like. So we're looking to see if we can find a topper of some kind to add some support until we can afford to buy a new bed. We've got a king sized bed, FWIW. So - are any of these that are being discussed something that might offer some extra support and help with the aches until we can afford a new Flobed or something? Thanks! Jeff |
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Jeff, Thanks for sharing so others will beware of beds that you can not unzip to fix parts that are no longer working. If I was you as a temporary means until you sell the second home, I would try to open the beds seams to take out the parts that have sunk in and are not supporting you and replace them with firmer latex until you have the funds for a new bed. I looked up toppers for you but I still think nothing will work as well until you provide better support under the topper. Please do a search and there is a few threads on taking apart a mattress. Maybe the poster will reply to this thread. Please keep us updated. Hoping you sell the second home fast. The other option is what I did when my bed fell apart and teh bed I ordered from Rockaway bed I was allergic to (Polyurethane outgases) and had to be taken away. I slept on the floor over a 1" topper over a 1/2" exercise mat and it was very comfortable and supportive for me. I just hated to be on the floor but for me it was a good temporary measure until I had time to do research and order my FloBed that I love. |
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Hi Jeff, Sorry to hear about your Sealy King latex bed--that is what I have too. Please tell me which model you have and the date purchased; mine is Mangrove Bay/Rivercrest, May of 2005. Even though it has a very soft top layer, we sank down through the night to the hard core and became more uncomfortable as the night wore on. It has slight body indentions on each side where my husband and I sleep. Two things have helped:I recently did a quarter turn and shifted around the top sheet, blanket and comforter. Guess what? No noticeable indentions! I've read that sometimes doing the quarter turn versus the half turn will even everything out over time. We shall see if it actually works since this is the first time I've done it. Also, I added a new topper. I tried the Dream Coil topper and although it is a wonderful product, we needed something a bit thicker so I'm returning it. We have a foam outlet close by and I purchased a king size HR 2" no-name mattress grade eggcrate for $53 (don't know ILD but I've used my old queen size for 12 years and it hasn't worn out yet) to go on top and it helped soften everything. I have a thick mattress pad on top of it and the mattress. Are there any foam stores or outlets near you? Mine is in Asheville, NC and they don't mail anything. I may still purchase a 1" latex layer to go on top of the eggcrate for a little extra softness. I tried memory foam toppers in different densities and heights and returned them all. I hope you can find something that will work for you. Hopefully there's an answer other than buying a new mattress. Get this...my sister's neighbor sold her a 25 year old mattress in pristine condition for $50 when he moved. I slept on it 2 nights ago and it was absolutely wonderful...firm enought for my back, soft enough for no pressure points. Why can't mattresses be made like that now? |
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Ours is the Huntington Beach, Reflexion line from Sealy. We purchased it probably about the same time you did in 2005. Got the latex specifically to avoid the body indentations that plagued us with the previous high end Serta King, and within months we had the body indentions and the loss of support. My wife slept on the "ridge" in the middle of the bed while I was on a business trip and said it was much better! Not a real world daily option though. I sent an email to the folks at Flobed since I've heard so much good about them. I'm not convinced that we'd be happy with the memory foam. They sent a very quick email reply, and stated that they sell a convoluted latex topper that is also the top layer for their latex mattresses, but that it is really more suited as a comfort level and pressure point relief, and not so much for providing some additional support. However, he said that they would be willing to sell me one of their 3" latex cores in whatever firmness we needed, even though it sounds like that is not something they normally do, and even allow us credit for the price of that if we eventually purchase an entire mattress from them. They sounded very anxious to help in any way that they can. (Gee - wonder who I'll go to first when we do have the cash for a new mattress? :) ) So here's a question for you experts - if I'm going to purchase a new latex core for our king sized bed, to use as a support topper, what type of firmness should we try? We're side and stomach sleepers, about 175 and 140 lbs each, and prefer a bit firmer bed (though not "hard".) In the meantime we'll try the quarter turn of the mattress - hey, what could it hurt? ;) Thanks Jeff |
| Jeff, Flobeds has been very customer service oriented to me also and even sent me a pillow they sliced down thinner for my head since I told Dave about my car accident. He just sliced it a little thinner than to my liking but he tries to get everyone comfortable and I really feel FloBeds takes pride in making as many customers comfortable and sleeping well. He sent me two sets of legs at the beginning since I wanted my bed to be low but when I got my tall Wesley Allen headboard, he overnighted headboard brackets (so the furniture people could attach the headboard for me) and sent me taller legs like I wanted and a postage paid lable to send the other legs back wishin me luck with my new bedroom furniture and headboard. Despite not being quite 5 feet, I love the10" legs and I have no problems getting on and off the bed. I made many exchanged of the latex cores since I went too soft at the beginning but it was wonderful not having pressure and knowing I could take my time finding the right combination of latex cores. It was even nicer when after the car accident, I was able to unzip the mattress and move the cores around to make my side of the bed even firmer since my back seemed to need this after the car accident due to the herniated disks I got from being his so hard from behind. I am glad I went with FloBeds for their excellent product, wonderful zippered mattress cover, their wonderful customer support and the fact I truly feel they care. |
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jefflackey wrote: We've got a Sealy latex bed with the top layer broken down enough that we've got achey backs (after only 3 years) and we have two houses we're paying on right now (thanks housing crisis! LOL!) so we can't afford the new layered latex bed we'd like. So we're looking to see if we can find a topper of some kind to add some support until we can afford to buy a new Jeff, if your mattress is sagging or the foam has softened up to the point where you're not getting enough back support, putting more foam on top of it is only going to make it worse since you will now be hammocking into even more foam. The best thing to do is to deconstruct your mattress. See Jimsocal's thread with photo links onr how to do this. Once you have removed the top layer of foam you may find that the layers underneath are still in good condition. Just add a topper over that if needed. If you are reluctant to do that and are still tempted to try the 3" latex Flobeds core. (Consider how high that's going to make your existing mattress.) There are a few things you can do to try firming up the hip area of the mattress underneath. Try placing a yoga mat under the latex (or any other topper). I currently have some remnant carpeting under my 1" memory foam topper and a flat feather pillow, along with a layer of 1/2" firm HR foam over the pillow. But I don't recommend this approach for most people. They would probably find it too hard. And speaking of HR foam, you can use 1/2" HR foam to bolster an area that needs firming up. You can get it at most foam stores or at Joanne's Fabrics. Since you are building up a specific area of the mattress and not the entire surface, this works best under a topper where the effect is more graduated, but you can also tuck it under a mattress pad. This message was modified Apr 9, 2008 by cloud9
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