Advice Needed for my DIY All Latex Project
May 17, 2011 12:38 AM
Joined: May 16, 2011
Points: 33
First post, great forum here with lots of information.  I've been reading for hours and feel I'm ready to post to get some advice specific to me.

About us - me, I'm 6'0" 170-175lbs, 38 y.o., mainly a stomach sleeper but usually flip to my back at some point during the night.  My wife is 5'0" 110-115lbs, 36 y.o., mainly a stomach sleeper, but also flips to her back some.  We both occasionally deal with low back pain usually brought on by our workouts.  We are sleeping on a 14 year old el-cheapo king inner spring mattress we bought early on in our marriage.  We have a very thick feather bed on top of our mattress.  My wife has been having pretty bad back pain lately, so I started our mattress replacement search.  One thing that helped us both last night is that I flipped our mattress for the first time in years and fluffed up the feather bed.  We both woke up this morning with our backs feeling better than usual. 

A friend of mine recently purchased the Skybed from habitatfurnishings.com, and he and his wife both love it.  We plan to go over and try their bed out just to get the feel of a latex bed before we make any final decisions, but he has convinced me to go the latex route.  Not loving the $2,600 price tag on that bed, I started searching which led me here.  I've now read enough posts, that I'm pretty sure I want to try to do a DIY setup with latex from thefoamfactory.com aka foambymail.com.  I'm all about saving dough, and I love doing things myself.

The Skybed from Habitat is 6" of Dunlop (26 ILD) with a 3" Talalay 19 ILD over it.  I read with great interest about Freedom1955's setup here:  http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/love-our-new-talalay-latex-mattress-foam-factory/18970-0-1.html  F1955 went with The Foam Factory setup as 6" 36 ILD, 2" 32 ILD, with 3" 20 ILD on top (all Talalay).  I'm considering setups similar to and in between these.  We are in Mississippi, so actually trying different configurations out will be impossible. 

With us used to the very plush feel of a thick feather bed, I do want to have some softness to our mattress.  However, since we both have back issues and are stomach/back sleepers, I also realize we shouldn't have something too soft.  I want to try to sleep on our new latex setup without any kind of toppers just to get the full benefits of the latex.   I've read alot about doing a split setup using Twin XL pieces so my wife and I can dial in our comfort.  However, my wife is not very picky, and she said she didn't want to hassle with a lot of combinations.  She asked me to pick out something that should work well for us both.

One question I have is on the base 6" being Talalay instead of Dunlop.  I know a lot of systems use the denser, firmer Dunlop for the base.  Do y'all see any problems with it being Talalay, especially if we go with the 36 ILD? 

I could set this bed up very similar to Habitat - 6" Talalay 36 ILD and 3" Talalay 20 ILD.  Do y'all think this would be a good setup for my wife and me given our profiles?  Here, I'm wondering if a 3" soft layer is too much for the stomach sleepers that we are?  Would we be better served with a 2" soft layer?  If so, should we consider changing the base down to the softer 29 ILD so the bed is not too firm?

What are the advantages of going with the 3 pieces as Freedom1955 did and is it worth the added cost?  If we went the 3 piece route, should we maybe go 6" 36 ILD, 2" 32 ILD, and 2" 20 ILD?  Again, thinking of moving down to 2" of the soft layer since we are stomach/back sleepers?  But moving from a thick featherbed, should we go with the 3" for the plush feel? 

Finally, should we replace our existing foundation that came with our cheap mattress that is 14 years old?  It is a platform type foundation (no actual box springs) but it does seem to have a little bit of padding on the top of it.  It appears to be level and in fine shape, but I'm not sure if this little bit of padding would be good under a latex mattress and if it is strong enough for the weight of 9" - 11" of latex.

Many thanks for any advice you all can share!

-Cliff

Re: Advice Needed for my DIY All Latex Project
Reply #15 May 28, 2011 9:24 PM
Joined: May 16, 2011
Points: 33
jimsocal wrote:

But the problem with DIY layers is that you're stuck with them, you can't return them if you decide you hate latex or bought the wrong kind or wrong ILD's. We have a closet full of memory foam and HR foam that we acquired in this manner. I keep thinking I should throw them out...

jimsocal, thanks so much for the in-depth info.  One thing that I wanted to point out is that FBM does have a "30 day 100% Guarantee." 

Here are the details of the Guarantee:

"Exclusively for Latex Mattresses & Toppers
Guarantee: The Guarantee starts from the ship date (or invoice date for pickups). If a return is made, there will be a 100% product refund, minus any shipping and handling charges. Guarantee not valid for in-store pickup and is subject to a 25% restocking fee. The product must be returned in a like new condition. The Guarantee will be void if the product is resized or reshaped."

 

I inquired with a CSR there, and she confirmed by e-mail that typically they waive the 25% restocking fee if the item is returned in good condition.  So, while I'll have some cost to return, I'm not stuck with these pieces if we don't like how it sleeps.  Granted, this return policy is no where near as robust as flobeds or others, but at less than half the cost, it is a more than fair trade-off IMO.

Re: Advice Needed for my DIY All Latex Project
Reply #16 May 28, 2011 9:45 PM
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Although Jim makes valid points, TheLTFM has a great configuration and IMO it will be copied often.
 
Re: Advice Needed for my DIY All Latex Project
Reply #17 May 29, 2011 3:55 PM
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need2sleep636 wrote:

Although Jim makes valid points, TheLTFM has a great configuration and IMO it will be copied often.
 


I agree that TheLTFM has a great configuration and it is as good as any for others to try. I did not read the whole thread and was just answering the first post without having read the rest. Really it's all about what feel a person is looking for and by reading the options here on this forum they can probably "intuit" what to try.

Re: Advice Needed for my DIY All Latex Project
Reply #19 May 30, 2011 1:36 PM
Joined: May 1, 2011
Points: 8
TheLTFM wrote:

And giving credit where credit is due, as I mentioned and linked in my first post, I am basically copying Freedom1955's DIY from FBM that he posted about here:  http://www.whatsthebest-mattress.com/forum/love-our-new-talalay-latex-mattress-foam-factory/18970-0-1.html

I modified the top layer to 2" where he used 3" since my wife and I are stomach/back sleepers. 


Hi TheLFM,

Thanks for the credit! I was reading your post and noticed you bought close to the same setup as ours!  We've had ours close to a month now and look forward to going to sleep each night on HEAVEN! No more backaches. We still have the soft 3" topper on the 2" medium topper over the firm 6"  mattress. I though it might be to soft but it works fine for us in this configuration. If I slept on my stomach more I would try the medium over the soft topper to firm it up a little.

Just curious if you delt with Sarah over at FBM?

I hope you like your new Talalay latex mattress and toppers from FBM as much as we do.

 

Freedom1955

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