Discouraged... Does latex break in a lot after a week or two?
Feb 12, 2010 3:43 AM
Location: L.A. area
Joined: Jan 18, 2008
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I thought I FINALLY had my mattress problems solved. My mattress was PERFECT for the first 2 weeks...
Then, about 3 nights ago it started to hurt a little.
I figured it was just ME... (though I had not done a lot of work - I did a lot of back work the previous days and slept great through those days...

But now for the past 3 nights I have had substantial back pain when sleeping. Not as much as before the new latex layer, but enough to make the last few hours of sleep a bit painful.

So did the latex "break in" in 2 weeks and is now too soft for me? Or what?

Or did the back work I did the previous week take a week to catch up to me?

I think I might have to change my configuration after thinking I had it perfect...

Ideas?
I am very discouraged by this. I REALLY thought I had it right, finally; I had great comfort for 2 weeks!
Re: Discouraged... Does latex break in a lot after a week or two?
Reply #7 Feb 13, 2010 12:26 AM
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Jim, it is also possible that only by laying down for an extended period you can feel the strain that has  occured in your back.  I did some gardening yesterday,  with a lot of bending and moving stuff.  My back did not really feel sore yesterday, but it was a bit sore this morning when I woke up.  I doubt it was the mattress, because it was not sore the previous morning.  Most likely the combination of the work I did plus lying down for 8 hours.  Perhaps back soreness is really a cumulative thing.  If there is no strain to start, then lying down might not cause any problems.  However, if there is some strain, then lying down will aggravate it.

I am not a back expert, so this is just specualtion.  However, I have noticed this pattern in me before, so I must conclude that something happens overnight that will aggravate the back a bit if it is already a bit aggravated.  It is possible that no mattress will prevent that.  The only test really would be to try not to aggravate your back for an extended period and see if the problem persists with the same mattress combination.

This message was modified Feb 13, 2010 by sandman
Re: Discouraged... Does latex break in a lot after a week or two?
Reply #8 Feb 13, 2010 2:09 PM
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I will also add that I have been installing a new 5.1 sound system in the house. Much squating down and getting back up again. To much strain for this old man. Now my hip joints are really protesting. Actually sleeping in my bed for a good eight hours I believe helps the situation somewhat. But when I get up in the morning, as Sandman indicates, I do feel stiffer for the first few minutes.

The thing I have found is to do some stretching exercises and things get somewhat better. So our physiology responding to our activity, particularly in light of the fact that we may have had some previous injuries, are the underlying factors for our pain. Our beds can compound this pain if they are not doing a good job. But many times I feel we blame our beds when in fact it is our body's and our minds becoming exercise about our pain. We humans love to blame an outside influence for our difficulties.

I will add this notation. I put back on my bed the 100% cotton cover that I acquired several weeks ago. This time it had been washed and I put it on without stretching it tightly over the mattress. It slept much better than I originally reported. So the point is there are many small factors that can contribute to a good nights sleep........ but then we all knew that..... right?
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Reply #9 Feb 13, 2010 2:59 PM
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Sandman, your mattress cover does affect your mattress feel.

I have been saying this and feeling this.  I am soooo sensitive, that when I make the bed if the sheets they are pulled to tight it affects the pain level of the side sleeping. That is why I use a plush blanket instead of a mattress pad; they feel like a rock (the mattress pad).

I am using jersey sheets so they stretch. But the queen size made in foreign countries are too small and pull too tight.  So I got Kingsize sheets, and they fit the bed.  Except now I have bagging, so I have to clip the sheets to the mattress and pull a bit.

I know I would feel a pea under the mattress, is that a kids nursery ryhyme I keep reading about here.  Princess and a pea?
Re: Discouraged... Does latex break in a lot after a week or two?
Reply #10 Feb 13, 2010 8:49 PM
Location: L.A. area
Joined: Jan 18, 2008
Points: 1161
I took off the wool mattress pad last night just to see...
It seemed a little better but still I had some pain and difficulty sleeping towards morning.
I'm hanging with this for a night or two more and see if it gets better or worse before I do anything drastic like try that Dunlop piece on the bottom or try taking off a layer of latex...

I am operating on the assumption that it COULD be my back just being "out" that is causing the problem, not the latex breaking in...

But if it doesn't get better in a week or so or if it gets too much worse I'm sure I'll succumb to trying to change a layer or two...

I will try not to strain my back but that seems highly unlikely. It seems every few days or so I just HAVE to do something that strains my back. I mean, aside from putting myself in a wheel chair, there just is no real way to avoid straining one's back. Life seems to require a certain amount of reaching, stooping, lifting and bending that does strain my back.

While I am following the advice of you who think maybe it's just my back not the mattress, I have to admit I am skeptical about this theory.

But for once I'm going to follow you guys' advice instead of doing what I would do which is change a layer...
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Reply #11 Feb 14, 2010 10:49 AM
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adjustable beds, like the ones that go up so you can read or watch tv

they are the answer for all of us, you can adjust so there is no pain, but the cost is nuts
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Reply #12 Feb 15, 2010 2:47 PM
Location: L.A. area
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Saturday afternoon I took off the wool layer.
But Saturday night I continued to have pain in my back during the night and upon awakening - again, not terrible pain but "too much" in any case.
I stuck with it anyway.
Sunday night I had much less pain, though still some.

I am beginning to wonder if there is something I do or don't do different from time to time that causes this back pain or if it is the mattress?
I am suspecting that one thing might be the LaZBoy I sit in while watching movies, for example...

I'm going to start keeping a diary of my sitting and other activities that could negatively and positively impact my back and thus my sleeping, and see if there is any corralation.
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Reply #13 Feb 15, 2010 2:53 PM
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I have heard of people sleeping in the recliners when they have back pain (my neighbor).  So I don't think that is it.

Have you noticed you are waking up and find yourself almost like a pretzel?  I mean laying on your back and kinda laying on your side?  I had that this morning and my back is killing me!
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Reply #14 Feb 20, 2010 2:02 PM
Location: Yosemite area
Joined: Sep 10, 2008
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Years ago, when I first started noticing that I had low back pain, I found that it wasn't just my mattress that caused it...chairs, couches, even the seat in my car all contributed to it.  I got rid of couches, chairs and had my car's seat re-done(not as expensive as you'd think).  Helped a great deal. 
Right now, my bed is the best support in the house.  One couch(X-Soft HR foam, thick cushion)hurts my low back, my art-deco chair I had reupholstered(the custion has  XXSoft HR foam) KILLS my low back, and the recliner in the other room has worn the seat to the point it is too soft(sinks too much, looks fine) and hurts my back.  I had our wonderful, three year old couch re-foamed last winter to the tune of $500...it has cushions and then a smaller one on top....tried to get the gal to replace the EXACT density of foam that it had in the first place...but it is firmer.  She used medium HR foam and it is solid.  My back is bothered by sitting too long on there too...my hips go to sleep.  It was so perfect for three years, then the cushions sunk too far and I could start to feel the metal pieces in between the sections.  I did not replace the center cushion, the curvy piece because it is always covered in pillows and no one sits there....it is still wonderful. 
I think you have to cover all your bases to get relief.  Even if everyone thinks you are weird. 
Right now I am sitting on a hard seat chair that was my dad's...all foam died a long time ago...I put a little chair cushion on top and I am happy.  My family wonders why I don't use the big, cushy, desk chair that I've pushed into the corner...but that hurts my back.  Most people just don't get it.
Kait
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Reply #15 Feb 20, 2010 2:46 PM
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Kait, I just was reading this website on hip pain and chairs and furniture click here

It explains it all so clearly, now if I can find some flat chairs.  I have been sitting on a contour chair and it pushes up on my hips, where the bursa is and the pain is extreme.  I reupholstered my office chair a few years back due to the contour chair and put firm foam, and it is improved.  But I see my expensive recliner and couch the foam has butt mark!  So that foam has broken down.  This would never had happen before companies decided to put cheap foam in. This is an expensive recliner I paid $1000 or more for several years ago.

So I am thinking of getting a Bevco chair that has a flat seat and putting my own padding on it.  They sell that.  Made in USA.

Then I will work on my mattress some more.
This message was modified Feb 20, 2010 by Leo3
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Reply #16 Feb 20, 2010 4:13 PM
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This is the best stuff EVER! For years I have been telling my kids my toilet seat was killing me. They laughed their asses off. I just put wood in my Pottery Barn, overstuffed rocker, bingo, the neck pain stopped. What a wonderful piece of information. Working in a Health Club, I am gonna blow em' out of the water Mon morning!

Alice