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I weight over 300 lbs and I am 6' 1", my wife weighs around 220 lbs and is 5' 3". If we choose a latex mattress where the layers on the first side are Xfirm/firm/medium and the second side Firm/medium/soft in Dunlop and compare it to a mattress configured the same firmness layers in Talalay would one be more likely to take a permanent impression then the other in a given time frame? The assumption is that the Talalay and Dunlop are both from a quality source and neither are of suspect origin.
I am asking this as I am getting radically different answers from on-line vendors some of who's products have consistently good reviews on this forum; leading me to believer they are not flakes or fly-by-night operations. Specifically it was noted that in this configuration my wifes side, based on the soft upper layers, would take an impression in as little as 3 to 4 years if we went with Talalay whereas the Dunlop would not.
So I would appreciate feedback from anyone that has owned for at least several years a Dunlop or Talalay mattresses in a softer firmness layer and is a larger person.
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Phoenix wrote: Did you know that Sleepyhead, the company that owns BedsRus, also owns New Zealand Foam Latex that makes Latex gold, and Dunlop foams which manufactures Polyfoams. They have just purchased the rights to the Dunlopillo brand in Australia/NZ. Dunlopillo ... now a sister company to the one you work for makes .... you guessed it ... 100% NR Talalay latex mattresses ... No SBR.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/BU1011/S00014/sleepyhead-announces-major-australian-acquisition.htm Phoenix |
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Appreciate everyones thoughts, opinions and willingness to help a neophyte. I will continue to try out mattresses as time and geography permits...although the thought occurs to me that short of sleeping in a factory or showroom for a week (I'm not sure anyone would let me, and even if someone would I am not sure I would want to :) ) I wont know how my body will react to a given mattress. So as of this point that will likely mean either a vendor in Texas who has a VERY VERY liberal return policy and or a lot of patience for customizing; or an on-line provider with a 90 day return policy which would allow me to move from bed type to bed type until I hit it right.
I have been systematically going through a lot of the past threads and there are a lot of champions for a lot of specific brands. I read this in a positive context as it tells me I have a good shot at being happy, if I am just willing to persevere and not expect the first or even the second attempt to be a home run.
I really appreciated a recent post by Phoenix about the adjustable bed approach. It got me thinking along less traditional lines. The wife and I had a discussion. I pointed out that when all is said and done we just may end up liking very different bed construction approaches; so our to date approach of buying a shared mattress may not be best. Also, we tried an adjustable years ago, and thought it had some clear advantages but at the time the cost was out of our reach. Back in the when they also tended to look more like hospital beds which turned us off a bit also.
So what we arrived at is this. Why not get two Twin-xl adjustable bases, then each pick the mattress technology that suites us best with the caveat that we look to keep the mattresses around the same height for practicality purposes. This would give us a much more personalized and less of a settle for approach in trying to accommodate each other. Also, we would have the clear benefits of an adjustable with future flexibility for our bodies needs changing.
Anyways we went out earlier today, tried out a latex mattress on an adjustable base and are both very pleased with the overall feel and flexibility.
The journey continues............
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From another thread ... "sleepyhead only own the dunlop foam name not dunlopillo, btw you may want to get your facts right. and to burst your little bubble as you say we live in, we do have the best latex made under the srtictest guidelines and regulations than are made in china and malaysia. no styrene in our latex buddy." 20 minutes ago you didn't seem to realize that they bought the Dunlopillo brand as well. Whether you carry it or not ... since they also make a Blended Talalay ... Dunlopillo does make a NR Talalay as does Latex International and as we're just finding out several other manufacturers. There are also many many 100% NR Dunlops being made all around the world of very high quality ... some with higher NR % than Latex Gold. Strangest part of all of this is that if you look at the other thread ... I was quite complimentary about Latex Gold ... except for saying they are overpriced compared to other NR Dunlop that is available. I also made comments to the effect that they don't seem to be aware of the alternatives that are out there ... and you seem to be repeating the company line and confirming that. Phoenix |
| im on the management team, they dont have the dunlopillo brand. |
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Bioman, Some of the online vendors as well as some custom manufacturers will let you order a King which is customizable on both sides. This has some advantages over two twin XL's and it would also allow a single King adjustable instead of 2 twins which would be less expensive. Of course the disadvantage would be that you could not move each side individually. As far as all this "talalay" vs "dunlop" nonsense ... It really is about what works best for you in your field testing. In my experience you will certainly feel the difference between them and come to know which you prefer. There really is only opinion as far as what is "best". Phoenix PS: There are two kinds of adjustable ... one is position adjustable and one is tension adjustable. Some have both ... but no massage which was "important" in our own search (laughing). PPS: Please ignore the comments about the single King adjustable base. While a single king on top does have some advantages over two twins including price, using a King adjustable is not one of them since they don't make them that way. Brain freeze ... thanks Budgy :) This message was modified Dec 11, 2010 by Phoenix
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| Phoenix, are you sure that anyone makes a king adjustable base? I have never seen one before. |
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I don't know where my mind was. I think my brain was thinking mattress and my fingers were typing adjustable base or something like that. You're right of course ... at least to my knowledge. Cancel cancel :) Phoenix |
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Phoenix wrote: Latex Green is one of the better and highest quality Dunlops IMO and I would have no problem using it if I liked it's feel. One of the reasons that it is often recommended for heavier people is because of it's density and it's firmer feel ... especially as a core layer. I believe that firmer Talalay is just as suitable as firmer Dunlop (the Dunlop in the same ILD may feel firmer and it has a softer and firmer side because of how it's made) as a core layer but that they can produce a very different feel. Personal experience and your own field testing so you know the differences in feel from a personal perspective will probably do more to help you decide than any research by itself. Natura for example ... as well as others that are widely available make mattresses in both Talalay and Dunlop and laying on a few makes a big difference. I've probably done as much research as most people but I can honestly tell you that without the context of actually laying on mattresses and knowing what it was I was laying on I would almost certainly have "got it wrong" when I bought my own. Phoenix On my piece of Latex Green Dunlop it is not marked as which side is firm or soft, and by touch I can not tell a difference. I have another no name Dunlop (unlabeled from O-stock) and I definitely can tell the soft side from the firm side. So it is strange. But, one side has perfectly spaced holes, the other side they are off center and all mixed up (Budgy posted a picture of this side once). Just an observation....... |